Camillus Indian Stag Handles
Camillus Indian Stag Handles
There have been a number of discussions here on the handle materials Camillus used.
One that is often mentioned because if is nice looking and not the most common material Camillus used is their handles which they named "Indian Stag."
I am posting these pictures for Tom Williams and I will allow him to comment on them.
I do believe these were made of DuPont Delrin, is that right Tom?
I was also wondering if the name "Indian Stag" was trademarked by Camillus?
There is one of my knives which I sold about a year ago.
It believe it had Indian stag handles.
Here is a catalog page from Tom.
This page is also from the catalog showing a couple knives with Indian Stag handles.
Now I will let Tom comment on the Indian Stag.
If you guys have some Indian Stag Camillus knives, post the pics here.
One that is often mentioned because if is nice looking and not the most common material Camillus used is their handles which they named "Indian Stag."
I am posting these pictures for Tom Williams and I will allow him to comment on them.
I do believe these were made of DuPont Delrin, is that right Tom?
I was also wondering if the name "Indian Stag" was trademarked by Camillus?
There is one of my knives which I sold about a year ago.
It believe it had Indian stag handles.
Here is a catalog page from Tom.
This page is also from the catalog showing a couple knives with Indian Stag handles.
Now I will let Tom comment on the Indian Stag.
If you guys have some Indian Stag Camillus knives, post the pics here.
Dale
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Re: Camillus Indian Stag Handles
Dale -- I believe your Yello-Jaket is also "Indian Stag". (This is not yours of course. I stole the picture off eBay.)
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This little #70 Sword Brand Hiker matches the catalog page so I would call it "Indian Stag".
(I decided the other two didn't fit the bill so I deleted them)
(I decided the other two didn't fit the bill so I deleted them)
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Absolutely Jerry!jerryd6818 wrote: This little #70 Sword Brand Hiker matches the catalog page so I would call it "Indian Stag".
It is the top knife in the middle column of the catalog page on Prestige Knives, (see my post above).
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My small collection of Indian Stag Handles knives in this topic http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 63&t=30416
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I got an email from Tom (CAMCO) this morning with 2 more Camillus fliers.
This first shows the color pretty well on the Indian Stag handled knives.
Tom said these are made of Delrin. The same material Schrade made Staglon® from.
This flier shows an assortment of Indian Stag knives and the display offered to dealers.
If one you folks have a display and need to know which knives are correct for the display you might want to save a copy for your records.
This first shows the color pretty well on the Indian Stag handled knives.
Tom said these are made of Delrin. The same material Schrade made Staglon® from.
This flier shows an assortment of Indian Stag knives and the display offered to dealers.
If one you folks have a display and need to know which knives are correct for the display you might want to save a copy for your records.
Dale
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Re: Camillus Indian Stag Handles
Dale
here is my collection of the Prestige Line Deluxe Indian Stags
They all have boxes and sheaths and unused
I believe 1972 was the first year with 8 models # 19,26,31,70,71,73,89 and 97
adding the models #6,7,8 and 88 a couple years later.The #7 and 88 are
the sliding lok models
Trav
here is my collection of the Prestige Line Deluxe Indian Stags
They all have boxes and sheaths and unused
I believe 1972 was the first year with 8 models # 19,26,31,70,71,73,89 and 97
adding the models #6,7,8 and 88 a couple years later.The #7 and 88 are
the sliding lok models
Trav
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Cool Trav!
It looks like you have all the knives needed to fill up the #121 display I posted above.
It would be nice to find an insert for that display and copy it, or make a reasonable facsimile of one and put together a copy of a #121 display!
Maybe Tom has an insert he could copy and you could use the copy to make a display?
At any rate, you have a very nice display of the Indian Stag knives!
It looks like you have all the knives needed to fill up the #121 display I posted above.
It would be nice to find an insert for that display and copy it, or make a reasonable facsimile of one and put together a copy of a #121 display!
Maybe Tom has an insert he could copy and you could use the copy to make a display?
At any rate, you have a very nice display of the Indian Stag knives!
Dale
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Thanks Dale
the future plans are to make or find that bicentenial display 1976
Trav
the future plans are to make or find that bicentenial display 1976
Trav
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Nice thread I'd like to see the #97 Outdoorsman knife. It's a scout/camper pettern I've never seen.
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Hey, now that is really nice looking!
I like it!
I like it!
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Re: Camillus Indian Stag Handles
This Remington R14 Whittler and R12 Trapper appear to have Indian Stag handles. OH
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What would this be called?I believe it was out in the early 60s to late 70s.
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....i have a#89 stockman with indian stag handles that has the 3 line mark with the short line under camillus-1946-50................. ...........................travman wrote:Dale
here is my collection of the Prestige Line Deluxe Indian Stags
They all have boxes and sheaths and unused
I believe 1972 was the first year with 8 models # 19,26,31,70,71,73,89 and 97
adding the models #6,7,8 and 88 a couple years later.The #7 and 88 are
the sliding lok models
Trav
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kandymiki -- Welcome to AAPK. Glad to have you aboard. Just dive right in.
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I've been collecting these Camillus Indian Stag knives for a while now and thought I'd post them in this old thread.
As you can see I'm not a stickler for absolutely mint knives, I don't mind if an old knife has some honest wear. I find that these handles are pretty stable and I haven't really seen any deteriorate to any great extent. Maybe someone can comment if they've had any problems.
Anyway, here is my small collection;
As you can see I'm not a stickler for absolutely mint knives, I don't mind if an old knife has some honest wear. I find that these handles are pretty stable and I haven't really seen any deteriorate to any great extent. Maybe someone can comment if they've had any problems.
Anyway, here is my small collection;
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The Indian Stag is made of Delrin. The reason Delrin is used so widely is because it is so stable.
About the only problem I have seen with Delrin is oxidation, usually for environmental reasons; exposure to chemicals or long exposure to direct sunlight.
Camillus' Indian Stag is one of the closest synthetics to stag when it comes to capturing the look of real stag. The only other synthetic that can come close, IMO, to the look of real stag is Schrade's Staglon® which is also made of Delrin.
About the only problem I have seen with Delrin is oxidation, usually for environmental reasons; exposure to chemicals or long exposure to direct sunlight.
Camillus' Indian Stag is one of the closest synthetics to stag when it comes to capturing the look of real stag. The only other synthetic that can come close, IMO, to the look of real stag is Schrade's Staglon® which is also made of Delrin.
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.....my favorite non-bone handle material!!!!............. .....................
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I have several.
The handles don't all look alike. Some look like that "worm groove" stag while others (especially the #29s) look more like real stag.
- (2) #14's
- (2) #18's
- (2) #29's
- (1) #70
- (1) #72 w/yellowjacket shield
- (2) Remingtons (72 Clones) - An R14 with brown handles. - An R14 with black handles
- (1) Rigid (72 Clone) - An RG70
The handles don't all look alike. Some look like that "worm groove" stag while others (especially the #29s) look more like real stag.
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I might be a little prejudiced but I really think that this is the most attractive of all the imitation stag materials.
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.......I agree!!!.....!))%!!!!............. ................
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............my mystery is still not solved???.....if they introduced the staglon in 1972, how come I've got a #89 stockman with the short line 1946-1950 tang stamp???................. ...................
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First off Tommy, Staglon is a Schrade trademark.
Now, I'm sure you mean Indian Stag so here's your answer. Indian Stag was introduced in 1972 as was the Camillus #89 (the #89 didn't exist before 1972). Either the factory made a mistake and stuck an old blade in your knife OR the blade in your knife has been changed at some point in time.
What follows is a copy of a page from the 1972 Camillus catalog.
Now, I'm sure you mean Indian Stag so here's your answer. Indian Stag was introduced in 1972 as was the Camillus #89 (the #89 didn't exist before 1972). Either the factory made a mistake and stuck an old blade in your knife OR the blade in your knife has been changed at some point in time.
What follows is a copy of a page from the 1972 Camillus catalog.
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................ .......thanks, jerry!!......I think it's the old blade in a new knife deal, this knife doesn't look like it has ever been apart or tampered with!!..... .................