What is Your Latest Old Camillus? (pre-1960)

The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other knife brands up until its last days in 2007 when the company filed for bankruptcy.
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A CAMCO 801 which was made by Camillus. A 3-1/8", tip bolster swell end jack which had the screwdriver blade / cap lifter, and had the imitation pearl handles that Camillus called Nu-Pearl. Blades are full, no wobble and have good snap. It is listed in the CAMCO / Camillus Catalogs through the 1950's but by the late 1950's they were no longer listed in the Open Stock sections. By the late 50's and early 60's most of the tip bolster knives had been discontinued with the exception of the tip bolster Senator Pen knives. Although, some were included in The Bonus Buckets, manufacturers closeout section of the catalogs.

This one I received as a gift with another knife I had purchased from our friend Ripster here on AAPK. He knows I like most knives made by Camillus and am also fond of advertising / promo knives, especially when you can date them. On the Mark side handle it has "SEVEN-UP BOTTLING CO. over TOMAH, WIS. PHONE 309. Being a three digit phone number, I believe it is from the 1950's.

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41yrcollk wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:36 pm Some early C055A152-1FBF-4E5D-975A-AAA4DBCDE46F.jpeg3ACEC6A7-2E94-4BB4-99F4-C38278033D26.jpeg3ACEC6A7-2E94-4BB4-99F4-C38278033D26.jpegD6C2391F-969D-47D1-883D-CBC4DA916BE0.jpeg
Well that’s a heck of a pile of Beautiful older Cutlery there,Very nice . You have some extremely nice pieces there,Thanks for sharing ::handshake::
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Papa Bones wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:59 pm A CAMCO 801 which was made by Camillus. A 3-1/8", tip bolster swell end jack which had the screwdriver blade / cap lifter, and had the imitation pearl handles that Camillus called Nu-Pearl. Blades are full, no wobble and have good snap. It is listed in the CAMCO / Camillus Catalogs through the 1950's but by the late 1950's they were no longer listed in the Open Stock sections. By the late 50's and early 60's most of the tip bolster knives had been discontinued with the exception of the tip bolster Senator Pen knives. Although, some were included in The Bonus Buckets, manufacturers closeout section of the catalogs.

This one I received as a gift with another knife I had purchased from our friend Ripster here on AAPK. He knows I like most knives made by Camillus and am also fond of advertising / promo knives, especially when you can date them. On the Mark side handle it has "SEVEN-UP BOTTLING CO. over TOMAH, WIS. PHONE 309. Being a three digit phone number, I believe it is from the 1950's.

Here are the pictures.

Camco 801 NuPearl adv_b.png
Camco 801 NuPearl adv_a.png
Camco 801 NuPearl adv_c.png
Camco 801 NuPearl adv_d.png
Smitty, glad you like the little Camco Adv. knife. They are a fun one to collect,it’s getting to be a challenge to find the 3 ,even 4 digit phone number ones in decent shape. It’s got a good home now,am sure of that. Take care my Friend ::handshake::
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Papa Bones wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:59 pm A.....
Smitty, that's a FINE l👀king CAMCO 801! ::tu:: ::tu::
In regards to the telephone number, check this out:
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Ripster wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:13 pm
Smitty, glad you like the little Camco Adv. knife. They are a fun one to collect,it’s getting to be a challenge to find the 3 ,even 4 digit phone number ones in decent shape. It’s got a good home now,am sure of that. Take care my Friend ::handshake::
The Camco and The Schrade are family members now. No worries, and thank you again JP.


New_Windsor_NY wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:23 pm
Smitty, that's a FINE l👀king CAMCO 801! ::tu:: ::tu::
In regards to the telephone number, check this out:
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 35&t=71682
Thank you Skip. Yep....saw the topic of the phone numbers right after I had posted. ::tu::
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Papa Bones wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:30 pm Thank.....
***** A BIT OF TRIVIA *****
7 Up was created by Charles Leiper Grigg, who launched his St. Louis–based company The Howdy Corporation in 1920. Grigg came up with the formula for a lemon-lime soft drink in 1929. The product, originally named "Bib-Label Lithiated Lemon-Lime Soda", was launched two weeks before the Wall Street Crash of 1929. It contained lithium citrate, a mood-stabilizing drug, until 1948. It was one of a number of patent medicine products popular in the late-19th and early-20th centuries. Its name was later shortened to "7 Up Lithiated Lemon Soda" before being further shortened to just "7 Up" by 1936.
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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:40 pm
Papa Bones wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:30 pm Thank.....
***** A BIT OF TRIVIA *****
7 Up was created by Charles Leiper Grigg, who launched his St. Louis–based company The Howdy Corporation in 1920. Grigg came up with the formula for a lemon-lime soft drink in 1929. The product, originally named "Bib-Label Lithiated Lemon-Lime Soda", was launched two weeks before the Wall Street Crash of 1929. It contained lithium citrate, a mood-stabilizing drug, until 1948. It was one of a number of patent medicine products popular in the late-19th and early-20th centuries. Its name was later shortened to "7 Up Lithiated Lemon Soda" before being further shortened to just "7 Up" by 1936.
Interesting Bit of Trivia . That’s quite the original name 7 Up had in the beginning. And they’re still in business if I remember right .
Thanks Skip for posting this info,appreciate it ::tu::
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Ripster wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:28 am Interesting.....
You're welcome, JP.🍻
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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:40 pm
***** A BIT OF TRIVIA *****
7 Up was created by Charles Leiper Grigg, who launched his St. Louis–based company The Howdy Corporation in 1920. Grigg came up with the formula for a lemon-lime soft drink in 1929. The product, originally named "Bib-Label Lithiated Lemon-Lime Soda", was launched two weeks before the Wall Street Crash of 1929. It contained lithium citrate, a mood-stabilizing drug, until 1948. It was one of a number of patent medicine products popular in the late-19th and early-20th centuries. Its name was later shortened to "7 Up Lithiated Lemon Soda" before being further shortened to just "7 Up" by 1936.
Appreciate the 7-Up trivia Skip. Yep, seems a lot of the soft drinks started out as having some medicinal properties. Might be why a lot of our Grandparents used to talk about "The Good Ol' Days." ::super_happy::
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Papa Bones wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:59 pm A CAMCO 801 which was made by Camillus.
A mighty fine knife it is. Even the printing survived in pretty good shape!
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Figured I would post this one here also. I picked this up at a collectibles shop near me. A Camillus Sword Brand, pattern 14 Serpentine Jack. It has the Sword Brand Tang Stamp on the mark side of the main blade and the four line Camillus Cuttlery Co. tang stamp (which was used from 1941 to 1946) on the pile side. The blades do have some stains and pits, the main blade has weak snap, the secondary pen blade has great snap, and no blade wobble with either. No cracks in the handles, and has the federal shield. I am soaking it the warm mineral oil over night and will flush it out. See if it helps the snap on the master blade any.
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Smitty nice Sword stamped #14 . Great cleanup process you have with your hot oil treatment.
Picked up another US Military pocket knife ,the US Cost Guard Approved rope knife . This one has the 3 line stamp though,which confuses me as the books say it should be 4 line stamp . Will dig further into that later . This example is a little weak, the 4 line I show with it is stronger but not the real strong snap . Now to find theKutmaster one and the Imperial #85 C .
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Ripster wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:39 pm Smitty nice Sword stamped #14 . Great cleanup process you have with your hot oil treatment.
Picked up another US Military pocket knife ,the US Cost Guard Approved rope knife . This one has the 3 line stamp though,which confuses me as the books say it should be 4 line stamp . Will dig further into that later . This example is a little weak, the 4 line I show with it is stronger but not the real strong snap . Now to find theKutmaster one and the Imperial #85 C .
Thanks JP. Very nice looking USCG rope knife. ::tu:: As for the tang stamp difference, a lot of times the contracts set up through the Governments GSA office with manufactures would usually have all the requirements. Consisting of drawings, dimensions, standards for material, types of handles and also on requirements for any special inscriptions, stamps, markings etc. Such as the Approved CG tang stamp. But as for the manufactures tang stamp it usually did not make critical specifications. These contracts were usually set up for a specified amount of time or years. So it is not surprising that there would be any transitional or tang stamp changes. Plus dealing with a time frame of military contracts, Camillus was probably using what was in the shelves. During my time working with the DOD, I know for a fact that the Camillus Electricians Knife (pattern 27) and the Pattern 1 Hawkbill was a GSA Item and were available to sign out with your tool kits. I saw several that was still in storage with Wood as well as Black Delrin handles and with various style tang stamps.
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Papa Bones wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:02 pm Figured.....
G@@d l👀king piece of cutlery, Smitty! ::tu:: ::tu::


Ripster wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:39 pm Smitty.....
G@@d l👀king rope knife, JP! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Hey thanks Smitty. ::tu::
That makes absolute sense with Camillus, and both stamps being close in dates ,would be easy transition for them to just grab the next batch of blades. The Government not caring much about the “particular “tang stamp also sounds about right .
As always Appreciate your info and insight . Hope you’re doing well and enjoying your weekend .
Skip,Thanks man ,hope you’re doing well and enjoying yourself as well .
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JP, cool pick up on the rope knife. You will have everything in the book before to long. The hunt sure is fun. ::nod:: ::tu::
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doglegg wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:22 pm JP, cool pick up on the rope knife. You will have everything in the book before to long. The hunt sure is fun. ::nod:: ::tu::
Agree with you Floyd,the hunt is fun. Getting to be a challenge in the military and short line stuff . Picked up another of his books,so more knives added to the list ::nod::
Do appreciate you steering me towards the Author,been a big help ::handshake::
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Papa Bones wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:22 pm
Ripster wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:39 pm Smitty nice Sword stamped #14 . Great cleanup process you have with your hot oil treatment.
Thanks JP. Very nice looking USCG rope knife. ::tu:: As for the tang stamp difference, a lot of times the contracts set up through the Governments GSA office with manufactures would usually have all the requirements.
Smitty you got me thinking, ::hmm:: I have an Electrician's Knife marked 'US Property on the blade', I need to dig it out and post a picture. ::hmm::
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Here is one I rescued from an antique store over the weekend.
Not too awful bad. The main blade is pretty good.
It has the "sword Brand" tang stamp on the mark side tang.
Does the "SWORD BRAND" stamp make it a 1941 - 1946 knife?

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Here is a (sorta)_ picture of the tang stamp....

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Somebody has already done a little work on it. The pile side cover looks like a pile of maple. At least the color is similar to the bone on the mark side.......

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Here is the pile side stamp....

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Looking from the top, the liner is warped. Probably because the "repair man" didn't disassemble the knife to do the repair. No pins holding the cover on.

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Looks like I have me some projects for winter shop time....
This one needs some love.

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Here is a better shot of the tang stamp in the pile side of the main blade....

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Meridian_Mike wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:34 am Not too awful bad.
Not at all. Should be a great little project. Nice save!
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Added a decent Camillus toe this week, still has partial etch.
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JohnR wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:23 am Added a decent Camillus toe this week, still has partial etch.
::tu:: ::tu:: ::nod:: Very nice find there JohnR.
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Super add JohnR. Still with some etch! ::nod:: ::nod:: ::tu::
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JohnR wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:23 am Added a decent Camillus toe this week, still has partial etch.
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