Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
In answer to many questions about it,
YES, the full set was made with both WESTERN and CAMILLUS stamps.
The ones with the WESTERN stamp are from 1996/1997, depending on how you read the advertising.
On 9 December 1996 (date on the flyer), Camillus printed a 6 page flyer titled "1997 New Product Introductions".
Page 5 of this flyer lists the WESTERN Duralens® Gambler Lockbacks - Suggested Retail $22.95
WD110 - 10 of Hearts
WD111 - Jack of Hearts
WD112 - Queen of Hearts
WD113 - King of Hearts
WD114 - Ace of Hearts
This page also depicts the FOUR OF A KIND Money clips, No Tools - Suggested Retail - $7.95
WD215 - King of Hearts
WD216 - King of Diamonds
WD217 - King of Spades
WD218 - King of Clubs
The Gambler series shows up in the 1996/7 flyer AND the 1997 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet but NOT in the 1998 Price Sheet. The FOAK money clips show in the same flyer and in the 1997 Price Sheet, the 1998 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet.
As for when the CAMILLUS stamped versions were made, I have NOT located that date. Looking through the Camillus catalogs and price sheets that I either have or have perused online, I can find no reference to the Gambler knives.
The CD872, the Queen of Hearts multi-tool, appears in the 2001 and 2002 Price Sheets, and in the 2003 catalog but NOT in the 2003 Price Sheet.
My guess, and it is only a guess until someone discovers an advertisement or other documentation, is that the CAMILLUS stamped Gambler series were 2001 to 2003, the same time frame as the Queen of Hearts multi-tool.
YES, the full set was made with both WESTERN and CAMILLUS stamps.
The ones with the WESTERN stamp are from 1996/1997, depending on how you read the advertising.
On 9 December 1996 (date on the flyer), Camillus printed a 6 page flyer titled "1997 New Product Introductions".
Page 5 of this flyer lists the WESTERN Duralens® Gambler Lockbacks - Suggested Retail $22.95
WD110 - 10 of Hearts
WD111 - Jack of Hearts
WD112 - Queen of Hearts
WD113 - King of Hearts
WD114 - Ace of Hearts
This page also depicts the FOUR OF A KIND Money clips, No Tools - Suggested Retail - $7.95
WD215 - King of Hearts
WD216 - King of Diamonds
WD217 - King of Spades
WD218 - King of Clubs
The Gambler series shows up in the 1996/7 flyer AND the 1997 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet but NOT in the 1998 Price Sheet. The FOAK money clips show in the same flyer and in the 1997 Price Sheet, the 1998 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet.
As for when the CAMILLUS stamped versions were made, I have NOT located that date. Looking through the Camillus catalogs and price sheets that I either have or have perused online, I can find no reference to the Gambler knives.
The CD872, the Queen of Hearts multi-tool, appears in the 2001 and 2002 Price Sheets, and in the 2003 catalog but NOT in the 2003 Price Sheet.
My guess, and it is only a guess until someone discovers an advertisement or other documentation, is that the CAMILLUS stamped Gambler series were 2001 to 2003, the same time frame as the Queen of Hearts multi-tool.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
ZZ , great info . Thanks much for taking the time to put that out there . Does answers some questions . Take care .zzyzzogeton wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:29 pm In answer to many questions about it,
YES, the full set was made with both WESTERN and CAMILLUS stamps.
The ones with the WESTERN stamp are from 1996/1997, depending on how you read the advertising.
On 9 December 1996 (date on the flyer), Camillus printed a 6 page flyer titled "1997 New Product Introductions".
Page 5 of this flyer lists the WESTERN Duralens® Gambler Lockbacks - Suggested Retail $22.95
WD110 - 10 of Hearts
WD111 - Jack of Hearts
WD112 - Queen of Hearts
WD113 - King of Hearts
WD114 - Ace of Hearts
This page also depicts the FOUR OF A KIND Money clips, No Tools - Suggested Retail - $7.95
WD215 - King of Hearts
WD216 - King of Diamonds
WD217 - King of Spades
WD218 - King of Clubs
The Gambler series shows up in the 1996/7 flyer AND the 1997 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet but NOT in the 1998 Price Sheet. The FOAK money clips show in the same flyer and in the 1997 Price Sheet, the 1998 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet.
As for when the CAMILLUS stamped versions were made, I have NOT located that date. Looking through the Camillus catalogs and price sheets that I either have or have perused online, I can find no reference to the Gambler knives.
The CD872, the Queen of Hearts multi-tool, appears in the 2001 and 2002 Price Sheets, and in the 2003 catalog but NOT in the 2003 Price Sheet.
My guess, and it is only a guess until someone discovers an advertisement or other documentation, is that the CAMILLUS stamped Gambler series were 2001 to 2003, the same time frame as the Queen of Hearts multi-tool.
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
This pocket knife arrived yesterday afternoon and it became the latest "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "Queen Of Hearts", single blade, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS, NOT a WESTERN tang stamp. This is my fourth "card" pocket knife with a CAMILLUS tang stamp. I now have two King Of Hearts and two Queen Of Hearts with a CAMILLUS tang stamp. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
This pocket knife arrived today and it became the most recent "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "10 Of Hearts", single blade, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS tang ETCH, NOT a tang stamp. This is my first "card" pocket knife, CAMILLUS or WESTERN, with a tang ETCH. Yet ANOTHER "variation" of these "card" pocket knives that I have to put together a complete a set of. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
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Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
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Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Yesterday, this pocket knife arrived and it became the most recent "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a WESTERN U.S.A., "10 Of Hearts", single blade, one tang stamp, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
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Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
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Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Very recently, I added this "card" to the "deck." It is a WESTERN U.S.A., "Queen Of Hearts", single blade, one tang stamp, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. The tang stamp is X'd out. This is my second X'd out tang stamp on a WESTERN U.S.A., "Queen Of Hearts" pocket knife. The other one has been previously posted under this topic or thread. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is. The last picture is of the previously posted, X'd out, WESTERN U.S.A., "Queen Of Hearts" tang stamp.
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Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
Skip
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Another nice piece !
So are you playing with a full Deck yet ? In regards to Western stamps that is .Thought better clarify as that didn’t sound good at first.
Stay warm and safe out there
So are you playing with a full Deck yet ? In regards to Western stamps that is .Thought better clarify as that didn’t sound good at first.
Stay warm and safe out there
JP
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
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Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
This afternoon, this pocket knife arrived and it became the latest "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "King Of Hearts", single blade, single tang stamp, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS, NOT a WESTERN tang stamp. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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***** Here is the latest total or summary of ALL the "cards" in my "deck." *****
ACE. WESTERN 2 - CAMILLUS 0
KING. WESTERN 5 - CAMILLUS 3
QUEEN. WESTERN 4 - CAMILLUS 2
JACK. WESTERN 3 - CAMILLUS 0
TEN. WESTERN 3 - CAMILLUS 1
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***** Here is the latest total or summary of ALL the "cards" in my "deck." *****
ACE. WESTERN 2 - CAMILLUS 0
KING. WESTERN 5 - CAMILLUS 3
QUEEN. WESTERN 4 - CAMILLUS 2
JACK. WESTERN 3 - CAMILLUS 0
TEN. WESTERN 3 - CAMILLUS 1
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
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Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Those are some beautiful knives! Outstanding!New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:00 am This afternoon, this pocket knife arrived and it became the latest "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "King Of Hearts", single blade, single tang stamp, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS, NOT a WESTERN tang stamp. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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***** Here is the latest total or summary of ALL the "cards" in my "deck." *****
ACE. WESTERN 2 - CAMILLUS 0
KING. WESTERN 5 - CAMILLUS 3
QUEEN. WESTERN 4 - CAMILLUS 2
JACK. WESTERN 3 - CAMILLUS 0
TEN. WESTERN 3 - CAMILLUS 1
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Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
Skip
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
I never knew about these knives. Those knives are beautiful! I really love the back of the card. The art on both sides are awesome. But the pile side covers grab my attention. Thanks to everyone that posted on the history of these knives. And thanks especially to you fellas for the awesome pictures. The more I hang out here the more I learn.
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Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
Skip
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Morning Skip . Looks like you have a couple of straight flushes in the WesternsNew_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:00 am This afternoon, this pocket knife arrived and it became the latest "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "King Of Hearts", single blade, single tang stamp, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS, NOT a WESTERN tang stamp. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
***** Here is the latest total or summary of ALL the "cards" in my "deck." *****
ACE. WESTERN 2 - CAMILLUS 0
KING. WESTERN 5 - CAMILLUS 3
QUEEN. WESTERN 4 - CAMILLUS 2
JACK. WESTERN 3 - CAMILLUS 0
TEN. WESTERN 3 - CAMILLUS 1
The Camillus stamped ,is there not as many of them out there ?
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Good morning, JP.
I can't explain the difference in the amount of WESTERN
tang stamps vs. the amount of CAMILLUS tang stamps.
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
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Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
I didn't know this was available until it was too late. I am posting the following for posterity and for future reference. It is a WESTERN U.S.A., single blade, single tang stamp, Ace of Hearts, playing card pocket knife. It appears that the tang stamp has been X'd out. The pictures belong to the seller and have NOT been edited, altered or enhanced by me in any fashion, EXCEPT for the size.
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***** If the owner wishes to sell this knife, PLEASE feel free to PM me. I am definitely NOT a cheapskate. *****
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***** If the owner wishes to sell this knife, PLEASE feel free to PM me. I am definitely NOT a cheapskate. *****
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
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Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
This pocket knife arrived this afternoon and it became the latest "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "Queen Of Hearts", single blade, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS, NOT a WESTERN tang stamp. This is my sixth "card" pocket knife that has a CAMILLUS tang stamp. I now have three King Of Hearts and three Queen Of Hearts that have CAMILLUS tang stamps. ALL of them have been previously posted under this topic or thread. It did NOT need any cleaning at all. I took some pictures and here it is.
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***** The Very Last Picture (Seller's) Shows A Group Or Lot Of Pocket Knives That I Recently Bought.
It Should Be Fairly Easy To Determine What Will Be Posted Next, By Me, Under This Topic Or Thread. *****
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***** The Very Last Picture (Seller's) Shows A Group Or Lot Of Pocket Knives That I Recently Bought.
It Should Be Fairly Easy To Determine What Will Be Posted Next, By Me, Under This Topic Or Thread. *****
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
Skip
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
Skip
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
NiceNew_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:30 pm This pocket knife arrived this afternoon and it became the latest "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "Queen Of Hearts", single blade, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS, NOT a WESTERN tang stamp. This is my sixth "card" pocket knife that has a CAMILLUS tang stamp. I now have three King Of Hearts and three Queen Of Hearts that have CAMILLUS tang stamps. ALL of them have been previously posted under this topic or thread. It did NOT need any cleaning at all. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
***** The Very Last Picture (Seller's) Shows A Group Or Lot Of Pocket Knives That I Recently Bought.
It Should Be Fairly Easy To Determine What Will Be Posted Next, By Me, Under This Topic Or Thread. *****
That box of goodies looks interesting. Looks to be a wire Jack and other goodies besides your Deck card knives !
Take care out there .
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Thank you, JP.
There are definitely many other goodies in this group.
I've posted some of them already, under various topics.
They include, ROBESON, CHALLENGE, SENECA, G. SCHRADE, CAMILLUS, etc.
There are many, many more, also waiting to be posted.
Take care.
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Another nice addition indeed. Look forward to a closer look of what your showing in the drawer.New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:30 pm This pocket knife arrived this afternoon and it became the latest "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "Queen Of Hearts", single blade, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS, NOT a WESTERN tang stamp. This is my sixth "card" pocket knife that has a CAMILLUS tang stamp. I now have three King Of Hearts and three Queen Of Hearts that have CAMILLUS tang stamps. ALL of them have been previously posted under this topic or thread. It did NOT need any cleaning at all. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
***** The Very Last Picture (Seller's) Shows A Group Or Lot Of Pocket Knives That I Recently Bought.
It Should Be Fairly Easy To Determine What Will Be Posted Next, By Me, Under This Topic Or Thread. *****
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Thank you, Smitty.
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
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Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Very cool knives Skip!
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Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Thank you, Tom.
I'm glad CAMILLUS didn't make all 52 cards, plus a couple of Jokers.
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales
Skip
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
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For a man with your ambition & passion for collecting, I would see not problem with that.New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:26 amThank you, Tom.
I'm glad CAMILLUS didn't make all 52 cards, plus a couple of Jokers.
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