My latest Schrade

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

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That boys knife is perfect I-Man ::tu::
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Thanks Gdog, carrying it again so I'll show it again. Have a great weekend all.
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Calvin, i have a 3 9/16" 2 blade Schrade Walden that appears to be the same as your 893. However mine is marked as "825" and has a shield with "K-77" on it, Tang is marked "Schrade/Walden/Stainless/N.Y. U.S.A."
Do you know what the "K-77" refers to ?
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They used parts to make up a knife for Norm Thompson Outfitters. Price $5.
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Thanks Cal. So is it marked "825" rather than "893" because S-W had spare 825 blades ?
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I don't think the 893s were made until a few years later than the Norm Thompson K-77 knives. And I don't think the 893s were in the catalogs. Those NT knives were Schrade Waldens (pre-1973). The 893 which I have does not have a Walden tang stamp.
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Another Jeffin re-do. He put the wormgroove on. Really a nice little knife with great snap, action, tight, solid, feeeeeeeeeels great in hand.
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Wow, your 33OT looks fantastic with those bone handles !
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Jeff does some great work!

That 33 OT sure looks nice with new clothes on!

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kootenay joe wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 12:13 am Calvin, i have a 3 9/16" 2 blade Schrade Walden that appears to be the same as your 893. However mine is marked as "825" and has a shield with "K-77" on it, Tang is marked "Schrade/Walden/Stainless/N.Y. U.S.A."
Do you know what the "K-77" refers to ?
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The K-77 was a code Schrade Walden used to signify the use of what they called Razor Blade Stainless Steel. They claimed it was able to hold an edge longer, but be able to be sharpened easier than standard stainless steel blades of that time.
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Papa Bones wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:08 pm
kootenay joe wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 12:13 am Calvin, i have a 3 9/16" 2 blade Schrade Walden that appears to be the same as your 893. However mine is marked as "825" and has a shield with "K-77" on it, Tang is marked "Schrade/Walden/Stainless/N.Y. U.S.A."
Do you know what the "K-77" refers to ?
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The K-77 was a code Schrade Walden used to signify the use of what they called Razor Blade Stainless Steel. They claimed it was able to hold an edge longer, but be able to be sharpened easier than standard stainless steel blades of that time.
Interesting. I have never heard anything like that before. The K-77 was one of a kind contract knife for Norm Thompson. It never existed before, after or in any other setting. I would like to see that reference between the marketing name "K-77" and anything else besides the contract with Norm Thompson. The Razor Blade Steel marketing was used extensively for several patterns but I have never seen a link to K-77 except in the opposite direction.
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I agree K77 was on Norm Thompson knives.
Not to signify steel type.
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tongueriver wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:26 pm
Interesting. I have never heard anything like that before. The K-77 was one of a kind contract knife for Norm Thompson. It never existed before, after or in any other setting. I would like to see that reference between the marketing name "K-77" and anything else besides the contract with Norm Thompson. The Razor Blade Steel marketing was used extensively for several patterns but I have never seen a link to K-77 except in the opposite direction.
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edge213 wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:38 pm I agree K77 was on Norm Thompson knives.
Not to signify steel type.
I read the information several years ago on the old BladeForums. It was another conversation on the K-77 stamped shields. The K-77 was indication of Knives that were a SFO for Norm Thompson Knives, but the requirement was for the knives to include having the Razor Blade Stainless run of knives. So basically yes the K-77 was in relation to the Norm Thompson Knives but also included a requirement for the type of steel.
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Papa Bones wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:56 pm I read the information several years ago on the old BladeForums. It was another conversation on the K-77 stamped shields. The K-77 was indication of Knives that were a SFO for Norm Thompson Knives, but the requirement was for the knives to include having the Razor Blade Stainless run of knives. So basically yes the K-77 was in relation to the Norm Thompson Knives but also included a requirement for the type of steel.
Got it. ::tu:: So, they then proceeded to use 825 openstock blades. Bingo.
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I assume that the Norm Thompson Yukon and Shikari knives have been covered here at some time?
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This one has been posted elsewhere, but it deserves a spot here, methinks. This little 104OT Minuteman pen might not be earth-shatteringly rare or desirable, but I still like it quite a lot. It's not perfect, but presentable enough. Not long after I unpacked it, I gave it a little fresh oil and slid it into my pocket.

Edit: I've officially fallen into the Old Timer rabbit hole!
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Nice! I have the 106OT and 104OT. My next purchases for Schrades planned out is a 108OT and a user 104OT. The 106OT adds scissors. A little hard to find, but it does have great scissors.
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There is also a UH version with scissors but watch out; many of those are Chinese. And.... some of the early 808 open stock little stockmans have milled liners. Little knives are cool.
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Thank you, gentlemen! The 106OT and 108OT are both future purchases for me, as are all USA-made folding Old Timers (fixed blades and UHs may be added later, or as they come in mixed lots). I've already got a good handle on spotting a Chinese Schrade: most I've seen in pictures only have "Schrade" stamped on the shield side of the tang. Are there any other tell-tale signs?
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"Are there any other tell-tale signs?" Just no U.S.A. anywhere.
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I had fun calling these sub three inch Schrade stockmans 'girlies.' They certainly deserve better than that. Very nice little fellows.
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tongueriver wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:57 pm Very nice little fellows.
I agree wholeheartedly. The work on the liners is superb!
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Dan In MI wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:23 pm
tongueriver wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:57 pm Very nice little fellows.
I agree wholeheartedly. The work on the liners is superb!
I heard one time the milled liners were done at least sometimes by a lady in her home. They have never been done millimeter by millimeter like file work. The craftsman/craftswoman just runs them through some device... BRAAPPP! and it is done. I see that some run over onto the bolsters and some look like they did a stack of liners by themselves and then assembled them later. I bet Eric has a line on this subject? I know that during the Schrade Walden days, pre-1973, they would do these milled liners (and hint: threaded bolsters) on something new or special in the line-up and later issues would not have it.
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A couple of new Old Timers have made their way to me: a 33OT and a 77OT. Neither is perfect, but they're gaps filled in my Old Timer collection (many, many more gaps still need to be filled). The 33OT might even become a regular carrier.
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Both sweet knives ::handshake::
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