My latest Schrade

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
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Sharpnskiningknives, Wow that red bone 34OT is from the 1985 Set. In my opinion, the best knives made. ::tu::
They were sold, one at a time in the Brown box - or sold in a numbered Set [in a black case.

The 34OT SS is another Bone Handled knife, bone is more Browner then the Red Bone [on some examples].. Ken.

Does your knife have a serialised number.
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Sharpnshinyknives wrote:Today I received this 340T in smooth red bone. I won the auction earlier this week by 12 cents. Been keeping an eye out for one of these for over a year. Love this smooth red bone, they did a great job on this.
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Those are amongst the nicest schrades made in the delrin and swinden era. The 1980's heritage knives are as well, if not a little nicer.
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My every day user 34 Heritage knife, had a big crack in the Red Bone.
It cost me $4:50 - I had the Red Bone replaced... Ken
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That's a nice one Ken. I am a big fan of the red bone OT's and heritage knives.
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Thank your for the information on the age of this new knife for me. That will go into my records for the future. I appreciate it.
Seeing all the others like this that were produced makes me want to collect all the different ones they produced.
Thank you all.
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It's a disease isn't it SSk... :lol:
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Sharpnshinyknives wrote:Thank your for the information on the age of this new knife for me. That will go into my records for the future. I appreciate it.
Seeing all the others like this that were produced makes me want to collect all the different ones they produced.
Thank you all.
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Then tang stamp on those Red Bone and the 34OT SS knives, is an old stamp from the 1970's.
Schrade used that tang stamp on some special runs, over the years.

I have always liked the bone "Old Timer Classic" knives, they also came in a Display Set..

This is my latest Schrade, an IXL Bone. Ken.
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Like those bones K. ::tu::
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doglegg wrote:Like those bones K. ::tu::
About 2002-03 Schrade made a special order set of Blue Bone knives, my set is missing the American Flag.
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Sharpnshinyknives wrote:Seeing all the others like this that were produced makes me want to collect all the different ones they produced.
And we haven't even got you started on the old cut co's and early walden's yet, they are the best of the best schrades. :D
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Speaking of Schrade Cut Co...

It was not intended... but ended up with two Schrade Cut Co. fruit / melon / meat / tester knives (how many names can a knife have?).
The handles at first fooled me as I thought I was looking at jigged bone in the photos... but turned out to be some sort of black plastic composition (that's pre−1945) with "reverse" (raised) jigging. One still has a faint etch on the blade reading "SWIFTS TABLE READY MEATS"...
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Great thread here of some beauties. Keep showing them everyone. Picked this up at the OKCA show in Eugene, OR last week. Bought if from Charlie Campagna himself. He said it was a 30s or 40s era, but I think the stamp was used from 1937-1973, so I don't know how you narrow it down any more than that. But anyway, supposed to be unsharpened, no big dings or cracks, great bones and pretty much mint. Nice old knife.
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Ivoryman wrote:Great thread here of some beauties. Keep showing them everyone. Picked this up at the OKCA show in Eugene, OR last week. Bought if from Charlie Campagna himself. He said it was a 30s or 40s era, but I think the stamp was used from 1937-1973, so I don't know how you narrow it down any more than that. But anyway, supposed to be unsharpened, no big dings or cracks, great bones and pretty much mint. Nice old knife.
That particular stamp would be about 1953-54 to 1973. It's most likely that knife was made no later than the late 50's or early 1960's.
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KnifeSlinger#81 wrote:
Ivoryman wrote:Great thread here of some beauties. Keep showing them everyone. Picked this up at the OKCA show in Eugene, OR last week. Bought if from Charlie Campagna himself. He said it was a 30s or 40s era, but I think the stamp was used from 1937-1973, so I don't know how you narrow it down any more than that. But anyway, supposed to be unsharpened, no big dings or cracks, great bones and pretty much mint. Nice old knife.
That particular stamp would be about 1953-54 to 1973. It's most likely that knife was made no later than the late 50's or early 1960's.
Well thanks for the thoughts. Although I just looked it up again and on another site it says the Scrade stamp guide puts this one at '46-'73:
SCHRADE
WALDEN
N.Y. U.S.A.


Of course there will always be discussion about the age I guess. But according to the stamp guide it's 1946-1973 and that's my story and I'm sticking to it. So you must know more about it than the guide and what Charlie said. I just meant I don't think it's as it was billed being from the 30's and once again by taking the sellers word I find I bought a knife that is significantly YOUNGER than I was led to believe and paid for. Over the years I've had many many sellers claim their knife was older than it actually was. Never do they say it is younger than it really is even if that's the truth.
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Ivoryman wrote:
KnifeSlinger#81 wrote:
Ivoryman wrote:Great thread here of some beauties. Keep showing them everyone. Picked this up at the OKCA show in Eugene, OR last week. Bought if from Charlie Campagna himself. He said it was a 30s or 40s era, but I think the stamp was used from 1937-1973, so I don't know how you narrow it down any more than that. But anyway, supposed to be unsharpened, no big dings or cracks, great bones and pretty much mint. Nice old knife.
That particular stamp would be about 1953-54 to 1973. It's most likely that knife was made no later than the late 50's or early 1960's.
Well thanks for the thoughts. Although I just looked it up again and on another site it says the Scrade stamp guide puts this one at '46-'73:
SCHRADE
WALDEN
N.Y. U.S.A.


Of course there will always be discussion about the age I guess. But according to the stamp guide it's 1946-1973 and that's my story and I'm sticking to it. So you must know more about it than the guide and what Charlie said. I just meant I don't think it's as it was billed being from the 30's and once again by taking the sellers word I find I bought a knife that is significantly YOUNGER than I was led to believe and paid for. Over the years I've had many many sellers claim their knife was older than it actually was. Never do they say it is younger than it really is even if that's the truth.
1946-73 is the general era for schrade walden but they started putting usa on the stamp around 1953-54. A schrade walden from 1946 to 1953-54 would be stamped.

SCHRADE
WALDEN
NY

Your knife was not made later than the early 60's due to the bone handles and the pattern. 1953-54 to the early 60's is the range for bone handled schrade walden ny usa knives, that's about the best they can be narrowed down to. As a matter of fact I don't recall seeing that type of jack in any walden catalogs at all. I don't know what to tell you about Charlie's info, or why he said it was that era. He is extremely knowledgeable about knives, though we all make mistakes at times, I know that I do. Either way none of that changes the fact that you have a nice schrade with bone handles.
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KnifeSlinger#81 wrote:
1946-73 is the general era for schrade walden but they started putting usa on the stamp around 1953-54. A schrade walden from 1946 to 1953-54 would be stamped.

SCHRADE
WALDEN
NY
My two cents as far as tang stamp's go:

I re-post the generally accepted chart where the "1946-1973" date comes from. The chart is from a "Knife World" article in June 2004 called "Schrade - 100 Years of Markings" by B.K. Brooks. I think chart should be regarded as a guideline and not gospel truth in all circumstances. Even the author was not sure it was definitive fact.

I searched my collection for a pattern with the "USA" stamp from 1946-1959. I only found one suitable example. The 849 is a pattern that has limited production dates.

The Schrade Walden 849 is listed first in the 1955 price-list and then the 1957 catalog. It is last seen in the 1959 catalog so that stamp was definitely used in the mid to late 1950s.

I also have earlier Schrade Walden examples such as 709Sha and 946Sha that do not have USA stamped on them.

Take this as you will. All I'm saying is that I personally don't have any examples that break the guideline stated by KnifeSlinger#81. At the same time I can totally see why Charlie said 1946-1973 for Ivoryman's very nice new knife.
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Thanks for your input bladecollectorr. The information regarding putting the USA stamp on knives around 53-54 came from an extremely knowledgeable schrade collector, known on this forum as lt632ret. His information can be taken to the bank. The 1961 catalog is the last one that lists bone stag handles. The 1962 catalog starts listing "unbreakable staglon" handles, so it's safe to assume they had pretty much run out of bone by then. Of course there may have been some bone knives made after that but they were not catalogued, it was certainly the end of the bone schrade walden era as delrin had taken over.
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Well, thanks for muddying the waters. Now I have several supposed dates and ranges, and none of them agree. Your estimate or whatever you want to call it stands alone on it's own merits like the others. But all these inputs have done nothing but end any small fragment of confidence I used to have in thinking I knew the date the knife might be. And I have learned a valuable lesson. Will be better off not mentioning dates or stamps at all. Will be better off not believing what the sellers say. Like dad used to say, "Keep you eyes and ears open, and your mouth shut." Still failing at that one.
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Ivoryman wrote:Well, thanks for muddying the waters. Now I have several supposed dates and ranges, and none of them agree. Your estimate or whatever you want to call it stands alone on it's own merits like the others. But all these inputs have done nothing but end any small fragment of confidence I used to have in thinking I knew the date the knife might be.
I'm not sure what you mean exactly. The estimate I'm giving you is not on my own merits, it comes from the excellent sources you can find right here in the schrade subforum, studying catalogs and studying the knives themselves. I can think of several people here who would likely give you the same estimate that your knife was most likely made from about the mid 50's to the early 60's. I don't claim to be an expert but I would not be saying any of this if I didn't have confidence in all the research I have done about schrade and confidence in the sources that this info comes from. You can take or leave that information as you wish, sorry I can't help you any more than that.
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Charlie may have thought it was a Schrade Cut Co as opposed to a Schrade Walden.
The pattern may very well date to the 1930s as a Schrade Cut Co, but the Schrade Walden company didn't exist until Albert Baer purchased Schrade Cut Co circa 1946.
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Ivoryman, I don’t think Charlie needs the money or the knife. I’m wondering if you gave him a chance to make it right if you feel you were misled, before you decided to air it out here. It’s a nice knife but not all that special. Seems like some folks here are just trying to give some helpful info that you asked for.
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I have to agree with James. Charlie is a stand up guy, and you should contact him and explain what has transpired here. He should have a chance to explain himself, and/or admit a mistake.
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I just received this New York Knife Co sharpfinger in the mail today. The knife came with box and paper work.
Thanks to JerryD for arranging the shipping.

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Picked up this fish knife for 20 bucks Saturday, been used and looks like spent a lot of time in a tackle box but still has the blade etch. Anyone know what the single bolster hole was for? Maybe hook straightening?
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JohnR wrote:Picked up this fish knife for 20 bucks Saturday, been used and looks like spent a lot of time in a tackle box but still has the blade etch. Anyone know what the single bolster hole was for? Maybe hook straightening?
According to the catalogs that's exactly what the hole is for John. Nice pick up.
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