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Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

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James, it seems like my 897UH would be a very early tang stamp after the Walden era, and the belt finished edges started in 1974 or '75, so maybe only a 1-2 year window for that stamp.
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black mamba wrote: ...the belt finished edges started in 1974 or '75...
Mine is a Schrade Walden, serial #53xxx, milled liners, hinged box, belt-finished edge. ?
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It just occurred to me as well, that with the serial numbers rolling over to a new letter prefix every 99,999 knives, that an A prefix on a Walden means that between 1967 and 1973 they made over 100,000 897s. That's about 17,000 per year, so your 21xxx should be from 1968-'69.
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black mamba wrote:It just occurred to me as well, that with the serial numbers rolling over to a new letter prefix every 99,999 knives, that an A prefix on a Walden means that between 1967 and 1973 they made over 100,000 897s. That's about 17,000 per year, so your 21xxx should be from 1968-'69.
But why would it have the belt finished edge?
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Cal, I can't answer that. Maybe it's a different sharpened edge than the A.C.A. Edge that both Schrade and Camillus used starting in about 1974. Somewhere else, either in another thread here or on BladeForums, Eric (ea42) stated the patent started in December of 1973???
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In the 1964 Schrade Walden catalog, I see the Razor Blade Stainless marketing ploy featured for the first time (on open stock knives). As far as I know, this is the exact same edge stropping that we have been talking about here on the 897UH knives.
http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/ ... W-CATS.pdf
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That does make sense, as Eric also said the A.C.A. Edge was used mostly on larger blades, as it was a fairly rough grit followed by polishing. I stand corrected!
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black mamba wrote:That does make sense, as Eric also said the A.C.A. Edge was used mostly on larger blades, as it was a fairly rough grit followed by polishing. I stand corrected!
And that is good info to me; I did not know. I will have to dig around for a Sears ACA and have a look.
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re A.C.A. Edge. Extremely rare 165 variation for Sears with hidden tang, brass pommel and elephant hide sheath.
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Whoaaa, Cal, that is a fabulous knife! When did you pick that one up?
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Well well well. Very nice Cal!
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JAMESC41001 wrote:Well well well. Very nice Cal!
Thanks for the kind words. I have a special place for the 165s. I just think it is a great knife, if a little heavier than necessary.
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I agree Cal, I can take a165 and a 127 and get by just fine.
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I am not sure whether I posted this before, but the earliest UH folding hunters and the earliest scrimshaw folding hunters had covers or handles MUCH thicker than the ones we are most used to seeing. I have a 127UH with this feature and it is serial #45xx, so there should be a few out there. I have four of them with this feature. It is really quite a striking difference.
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It’s true Cal. I have at least one “FAt Stag” 127. I’ll have to look at the serial #’s. Maybe we can narrow it down a bit. I have 2 sw127 that were in displays. These Schrade displays some clues as to where they were at as far as serial #’s since we can tell when the displays showed up in the catalogs. But it is still tricky for a number of reasons.
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This knife is serial #04208 it has the fat handles. I have a skinny handle SW #09496. I also have a SW127 that came from a Schrade display:sw69uh this display is listed in the 1969 catalog and the serial # is in the 18000’s. The 127 was the second uncle Henry pattern introduced. It first appeared in 1968. I’m not sure it was initially a big seller as it was replaced by the 227 for 1970 and 1971. After that it is in every catalog up until 1988 where it did not make it back into the line up. The 124 which is a kinder gentler version of the 127 made a brief appearance 85-88 and then that disappeared also. Unused 124uh’s only occasionally come around. I do not think many were made relative to other patterns. I will check serial numbers on my other sw127uh’s. I’d love to dial in on this. Thanks for posting your knife. It is a beauty.
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The Schrade Walden 127UH 'fat boy' knives are one of my all time favorite knives. The serial # on the top one is 09532. It is listed in the 1973 catalog as a "King Ranch". But I can't say if it had the larger girth at that time. The catalog snapshot is from the 1968 catalog and is a holy grail set if I could find one. This has been discussed before here and a member said that he didn't believe that these sets were ever sold. But at any rate, no one that I know of has ever seen one. Hinged box, gaucho sheath and hone stone....for a whopping $15.00.
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Mustanger wrote:The Schrade Walden 127UH 'fat boy' knives are one of my all time favorite knives. The serial # on the top one is 09532. It is listed in the 1973 catalog as a "King Ranch". But I can't say if it had the larger girth at that time. The catalog snapshot is from the 1968 catalog and is a holy grail set if I could find one. This has been discussed before here and a member said that he didn't believe that these sets were ever sold. But at any rate, no one that I know of has ever seen one. Hinged box, gaucho sheath and hone stone....for a whopping $15.00.
Is the 09532 fat handles?? Let me know if you find one in the box as shown in the cat pic. At this point I don’t believe they went with that packaging. That one must be with the photographer.
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JAMESC41001 wrote: Is the 09532 fat handles??

Yes, and the other one too. I don't know the serial number on it though since I don't have that one anymore.
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I recently found this 885UH in a local antique store. It appears to have never been carried or used, though the red foam is basically dust, and there is some tarnish on the shield and top bolsters. .
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bhuber,
::welcome:: to AAPK!
That's a fine stockman, a very popular style. If it wasn't in mint condition, it would be a great everyday carry.
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treefarmer wrote:bhuber,
::welcome:: to AAPK!
That's a fine stockman, a very popular style. If it wasn't in mint condition, it would be a great everyday carry.
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Thanks for the welcome! That’s been my line of thinking on that knife. It’s the second one I’ve found this year but I sold the other one, which was much more used.
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My first knife was a shrade ol timer
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Just picked up this Schrade Walden 897UH.
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Great knives for the ol' pocket! ::tu::
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