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Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

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I am looking for info on a schrade 225y with yellow scales. I have found a lot of info on the 225 and 225h but nothing on the y. I'd also like to buy one in mint condition.
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I am not familiar with a 225Y. If it exists, it may be a post-2004 Taylor China knife. Otherwise, in the legitimate Schrade lineup, there are a lot of "scrimshaw" editions available with an "ivoroid" color to them, and some are blank. Also there were a few sold back in the 1940s with "cracked ice" and yellow celluloid handles, both one and two-blade style. In the 1980s there was a Thomas Jefferson one blade hunter issued with yellowish micarta handles. Some of these show up without the Thomas Jefferson "scrimshaw". They are very nice. As you may know, there have been no legitimate "true" Schrade knives made for eleven years, since the bankruptcy. The market is flooded with the Chinese knock-offs.
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The knife I seen and have pictures of was bought used in 1971. I can't post pics but I can text them if someone else could post
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I bet it was the one mentioned from the 40's. It is a bright yellow celluloid.
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Curdog1 wrote:I bet it was the one mentioned from the 40's. It is a bright yellow celluloid.
Here is an example; there may have been a few made under the SCHRADE WALDEN marque into the1950s as well.
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That is it! Where could I find one?
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Curdog1 wrote:That is it! Where could I find one?
The most likely possibility would be to set up a search on Ebay and check it every 12 hours for up to possibly the rest of your life. The last example of that particular color in that particular pattern from that particular maker was made from 68 to 75 years ago. It might be more practical to search for something very similar. Every maker made them and some continue to make them to this day. Bone, delrin, acrylic, stag, one blade, two blades; there are millions of them out there. Good luck.
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I imagine finding one 70 years old with celluloid handles will be a challenge.
The light colored celluloid is more prone to off-gassing than the darker colors.
I rehandled one a couple years ago that had black celluloid handles and even those were in pretty bad shape, even though the knife was in good condition.

You may have to find an old one and have new handles put on it to get what you want.
I think the only knife numbered 225Y would have been made after Schrade closed in 2004. Taylor has been making a lot of patterns with yellow handles that Schrade only made with the traditional Old Timer handles.
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I had one for a while (not mint of course). Before the celluloid decomp ruined the covers, the yellow was a fairly close match to the yellow composition blanks that Muskrat Man has. One route to the knife the OP wants might be to purchase a mint or near-mint example with whatever covers, then send if off to MM for a re-work.
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orvet wrote: I think the only knife numbered 225Y would have been made after Schrade closed in 2004. Taylor has been making a lot of patterns with yellow handles that Schrade only made with the traditional Old Timer handles.
This thread has been bugging me, so I went through my pile. I actually have a 225Y in "original" condition. Meaning, the cell is shrinking and cracking at the pins, but still intact. :mrgreen:

Here's pics of mine...

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Kabar used that dark yellow celluloid on folding hunters.You may find a similar Kabar knife.
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peanut740 wrote:Kabar used that dark yellow celluloid on folding hunters.You may find a similar Kabar knife.
The darkness comes from decomposition. They were originally a lovely translucent lemon yellow, in any brand. I am thinking of having my 'mint' example (above) re-handled in white camel bone.
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Amazing Glenn, I have not seen the 225Y listed on any Schrade catalog or pricelist.
I am wondering if they made them for a hardware company like Belknap.
Belknap sold a lot of Schrade Walden knives, both those with their own name, John Primble, and the Schrade Walden name.

Nice find Glenn! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks, I think I picked it up off ebay a number of years back. It has some issues, and is in jeopardy of going bad, but it is a pretty cool example of the weird ones that are out there.
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Would you be interested in selling yours sir?
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Anybody got any new info or examples of these knives?
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I have a Schrade cut Co version with cracked ice celluloid which is really an pretty decent condition considering the age.
The unusual thing about it does not have any tang stamps, but if you compare it to another Schrade Cut Co, or a Schrade Walden 225 it is readily apparent that they are the same knife.

The knife is currently for sale in my store, and there are several pictures there. Here's the link:
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production numbers for the 225Y (152 catalog #)
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1959 354
1960 888
1961 1824
I see the line continued till 1964 but nothing was shipped after 1961
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Just to give you some hope, this one sold for $56.00 including shipping last year on ebay. I missed it for some reason and saved the pics and what it sold for. ::facepalm::
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Curdog1 wrote:I can't post pics but I can text them if someone else could post
If you can text pictures, you can post pictures. Read through the "Tips & Tricks" Forum for instruction on posting pictures from your particular device.
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Y’all seen any of these around for sale lately?
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I picked another one up off eBay a few months back. I’d still be interested in another one if anyone has one they’d sale.
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Three Schrade CutCos, one of which has a Craftsman stamp. Possibly for sale.
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Pm sent!!
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