Those hard to find Old Timers
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Re: Those hard to find Old Timers
The 126 is not expensive but quite rare. The 225OT sawblade hunter is uncommon, not rare, but EXPENSIVE.
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Calvin, "but EXPENSIVE"
how much is expensive ?
and is this just for unused with box ? or also for lightly used but never resharpened/no box ?
thanks, kj
how much is expensive ?
and is this just for unused with box ? or also for lightly used but never resharpened/no box ?
thanks, kj
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Re: Those hard to find Old Timers
I'm sure that "expensive" is less than "EXPENSIVE"....
But, I too would like to know what the "EXPENSIVE" price range would be...
Mike
But, I too would like to know what the "EXPENSIVE" price range would be...
Mike
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Re: Those hard to find Old Timers
I have not seen one come up for sale on the Bay for some several weeks, but when they do, I have never seen one go for less than $80, no box, in the last couple years. The 'scout' knife with sawblade, sold under the Sears marque is the same way.
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Thanks Calvin. The Sears 'Scout' with saw blade is a 5 blade knife, right ? Do you know approximate years it was sold ? Made by Imperial ? Ulster ? Camillus ? or Schrade ? Maybe more than one ?
kj
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Michael Little, 3 December 2014: “You rang? Oh! A Sears Craftsman #9555 "Schrade Walden Saw Knife", a camp utility knife with a fifth blade, a saw added, made for and shipped to Sears in 1967! I love these things! Rare? Mmmm... that word does tend to get overused. They are pretty uncommon finds today. I have two of them.kootenay joe wrote:Thanks Calvin. The Sears 'Scout' with saw blade is a 5 blade knife, right ? Do you know approximate years it was sold ? Made by Imperial ? Ulster ? Camillus ? or Schrade ? Maybe more than one ?
kj
Keep your eyes open for a Sears Craftsman #9561, another Schrade Walden, but an electrician pattern. It has the same saw blade added and makes for a very thick knife with three springs in the spring pack instead of the normal two and the extra brass liner, total of four. In fact, when measured across the butt not including the shackle, it is 3/4" wide.
Schrade Walden production records listed the #9555 as the "SW SAW KNIFE" first in 1967. The master blade has the Craftsman "crown" logo (matching the coined shield) and the number 9555. Mine came with a light tan leather pouch style sheath with "crown" Craftsman logo embossed on the flap. They were only sold for a year or so and in limited quantities. IIRC, a thousand or less were shipped. Nice find!
ETA: I believe it is indeed built on the Ulster utility knife frame. But at this point Schrade Walden and Ulster were pretty much one and the same.
As I said, both Schrade Walden and Ulster were made on the same tools on the same lines by the same workers. At the time, late 1960's, Ulster patterns were being dropped piecemeal and being replaced by Schrade Walden stamps and patterns. And of course Baer had a near lock on the Sears accounts. He had acquired the remaining stocks of Camillus by then as well so was beginning to have Sears knives made there also. The Sears buyers' loyalty was, afterall, to Baer not to Imperial, Camillus or Schrade Walden.”
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Great refresher/presentation Cal. Will be appreciated by many, now and in future.
I no longer have a 5 blade with saw Sears knife. I will start looking. a bit nuts: sold one, now look for another !
kj
I no longer have a 5 blade with saw Sears knife. I will start looking. a bit nuts: sold one, now look for another !
kj
Re: Those hard to find Old Timers
I have a 126OT that is different from any I have seen elsewhere.
I think "rare" might be applicable in this case, what do you think Cal?
I think "rare" might be applicable in this case, what do you think Cal?
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How does a 126OT differ from the 125OT ? Just different handle covers ??
kj
edit to add: The 126OT has a stainless steel blade, same as the 127UH
kj
edit to add: The 126OT has a stainless steel blade, same as the 127UH
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Re: Those hard to find Old Timers
End of days.orvet wrote:I have a 126OT that is different from any I have seen elsewhere.
I think "rare" might be applicable in this case, what do you think Cal?
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Re: Those hard to find Old Timers
They were intended for the European market. Had a 440C etch. There was also the 226OT, stainless son of a gun. Same deal.kootenay joe wrote:How does a 126OT differ from the 125OT ? Just different handle covers ??
kj
edit to add: The 126OT has a stainless steel blade, same as the 127UH
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Man... y'all really ruined my day now....
And I thought I had the Old Timers by the tail until I saw these. Dog gone it.... those are some REALLY cool ones.
Mike
And I thought I had the Old Timers by the tail until I saw these. Dog gone it.... those are some REALLY cool ones.
Mike
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That one you have is a real beauty Dale.
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My 9467 Craftsman looks like it needs a saw blade (LOL).....
(sorry for the poor pic)
And here is one of my Ulster OT Utilities......
Mike
(sorry for the poor pic)
And here is one of my Ulster OT Utilities......
Mike
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And... to further morph this thread into an Ulster / Craftsman thread....
Here is my Ulster - Craftsman.....
(Ulster on the tang.... Craftsman on the shield)
Mike
Here is my Ulster - Craftsman.....
(Ulster on the tang.... Craftsman on the shield)
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Re: Those hard to find Old Timers
Mike you shouldn't give up on finding the 8OTY and 34OTY, they are pretty swell. It may take time but I've seen quite a few pop up over the years. I have two 8oty's and one 34oty, total investment is about $65 and two of them are minty.
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There are some Schrade USA 8OTY that are from after 2004 closure brought out by Taylor and made by Camillus. I think the swage on the clip blade is different from a Schrade made clip blade. Actually these knives might have been marked: Schrade-Walden USA rather than Schrade USA.
Maybe Calvin knows ?
kj
Maybe Calvin knows ?
kj
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I recon you are right... I still have them in the back of my mind.Mike you shouldn't give up on finding the 8OTY and 34OTY
Well.... I am happy with any Old timer as long as it has "made in USA" or "USA" somewhere on it.
I just have this mental block about the made in china stamp.
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Would you mind too much posting up a pic on this thread?KnifeSlinger#81 wrote: It may take time but I've seen quite a few pop up over the years. I have two 8oty's and one 34oty, total investment is about $65 and two of them are minty.
I would like to see what a sure 'nuff OTY looks like.
Mike
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Sure Mike, I will do so as soon as I get a chance.Meridian_Mike wrote:Would you mind too much posting up a pic on this thread?KnifeSlinger#81 wrote: It may take time but I've seen quite a few pop up over the years. I have two 8oty's and one 34oty, total investment is about $65 and two of them are minty.
I would like to see what a sure 'nuff OTY looks like.
Mike
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Meridian_Mike wrote:Would you mind too much posting up a pic on this thread?KnifeSlinger#81 wrote: It may take time but I've seen quite a few pop up over the years. I have two 8oty's and one 34oty, total investment is about $65 and two of them are minty.
I would like to see what a sure 'nuff OTY looks like.
Mike
Here they are Mike.
I bought this one as is, perfect user with great patina already there, I've probably sharpened it more than the previous owner did.
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Thanks for those pics Paul..... real beauties you have there!
SO.... there is no OTY on the tangs.... only OT..... I guess I was under the impression the tang stamps were OTY....
The search continues!
SO.... there is no OTY on the tangs.... only OT..... I guess I was under the impression the tang stamps were OTY....
The search continues!
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Thanks Mike. You are correct, they are just regular ot blades. That furthers my theory that these were made to use up leftover handles from the 881y and 834y that were discontinued, also the shields are the same as the open stock knives instead of an ot shield.
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I found another 89 OT over the weekend.... At $28 it was hard to pass up......LOL
Mike
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Good one Mike. I just sold my 89ot since I never used it, not much of a serrations guy, but when I find a good minty one I will get another. Have you noticed how much longer the sheepsfoot is on the 89ot than the 8ot?
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