Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

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Another "Harry Gant" HG7LTD:
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Ducks Unlimited 2000. Blued carbon blade with gold Baron Technologies etch:
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Great show guys. Keep them coming. Here are my 4 pin knives. #20111 and #M1215.
Also a craftsmen and Staglon LB7. The Staglon does not have a serial number. I believe the Dixieland land sets and the like that featured staglon on the LB7’s has their own serial #’s for the sets but I had heard there were some with standard LB7 serials and ones like this with no serials. I notice this one shares the same rounded, pertruding rocker pin as the craftsman version so I am wondering when the craftsman’s first appeared and whether the Dixieland sets shared this feature as well??
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orvet wrote:When one considers all the variations on the LB7 such as; LB7, LB8, 6OT, 7OT and the Heritage versions together, it causes me to wonder whether the design teams ever talked to one another? ::shrug::

I will need to take some pictures, but I know there are at least 2 variations in the placement of the rocker pin in the lock bar, at least 2 sizes of locking lugs on the end of the lock bars. There are at least 2 different size pivot pin holes in the blades and there may be a couple locations for the pivot hole in the tang of the blade. I will have to double-check that.

Originally I had thought the parts between these different lockback knives, all built on the same frame, should be interchangeable. I found out that is not the case.
I will come back later with some pictures to show some of the differences between these patterns, and some are design changes.
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JAMESC41001 wrote:...I notice this one shares the same rounded, pertruding rocker pin as the craftsman version so I am wondering when the craftsman’s first appeared and whether the Dixieland sets shared this feature as well?
As far as I can tell every staglon Bear Paw from 1978 until 2000 shared this feature. The raised, spun lockbar pin is on every LB8 I can find pictures of. The 4-pin Craftsman would be the same era as 4-pin LB7 so 1978 to 1980 or early 1981.

Here are three of the 1980 Dixie Collection knives. All have the raised pin.
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Yes, makes sense. Can’t grind them smooth because of the handle material. ::dang::
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JAMESC41001 wrote:Yes, makes sense. Can’t grind them smooth because of the handle material. ::dang::
fyi all the 7OT and sambar handled knives also have the domed lockbar pin. I think only normal LB7, scrimshaw and some delrin handled SFOs have it ground flat.
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My memory seems to have some swiss-cheese aspects to it. I was totally wrong about there not being any blades stamped "507SC". I should have searched for that term first. oops!

Here are three examples I quickly found that use those blades:
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bladecollectorr wrote:
JAMESC41001 wrote:...I notice this one shares the same rounded, pertruding rocker pin as the craftsman version so I am wondering when the craftsman’s first appeared and whether the Dixieland sets shared this feature as well?
As far as I can tell every staglon Bear Paw from 1978 until 2000 shared this feature. The raised, spun lockbar pin is on every LB8 I can find pictures of. The 4-pin Craftsman would be the same era as 4-pin LB7 so 1978 to 1980 or early 1981.

Here are three of the 1980 Dixie Collection knives. All have the raised pin.

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Hey guys the raised pin is due to the fact that it's stainless on soft brass. When the bolsters are buffed the softer brass wears away faster than the hard stainless pin resulting in the pin being raised. The more they're buffed, the more pronounced the pin is, and they require extra buffing because scratches were harder to buff out of the stainless as well. The super strong pins were a selling point, but I never really liked the way it looked.

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Hey Eric, I was looking at the pin in the spring not the one on the blade. Looks like it was spun as opposed to ground flush with the rosewood handles. Which makes sense. It was a silly question on my part. But your answer is a great piece of info just the same.
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Ahh Jay, now that I actually read it all I see you mentioned the rocker pin, oops! ::dang::

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Jay posted one of these in the thread already but they're so rare I thought I'd post another. These were dealer displays from the first few years the pattern was available. This one has spent all of its 40+ years protected in its original box. The knife is stored separately and it wasn't one of the super low numbers - it's in the 60K range.
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Here are 3 early LB7's. All with box & papers & sheath. Serial # 59024 has the date purchased written on the inside box flap: "29.50 Sept 1978 Factory". It is from the second year of production.
The other 2 have serial #'s 5182 & 19315.
Work done by Michael Little showed that in 1977, first year of LB7 production the serial #'s went to 19,xxx (not sure of these last 3 digits. By the end of 1978, the second year of production the serial #'s went up to ~ 220,000.
So 5182 is a 1977 knife and 19315 is either very end of 1977 or very early 1978.
I am selling off all my knives if anyone is interested.
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Great show guys. Thanks for posting all those amazing knives.
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blade_1971 wrote:Hi,

I am new to the forum. I have been researching my late fathers knife collection, and I ran across something that may prove helpful concerning the dating of LB7's. Through many hours of searching through catalogs I have found the following: The first instance of a 3 pin LB7 is found in 1985 and the first instance of the "Uncle Henry" script added was 1988. I ascertained this information by going through each page and zooming in on the pictures. Although you must take care when doing this because only the individual knife pictures can truly reveal this info because some of the display knife pictures can not be updated to the new year because the knives are still in the same place on the display. The pictures are clear. The first 3 pin LB7 shows up in the 1986 catalog, and again in the 1987 catalog. Then, on the cover of the 1988 catalog is a picture of the LB7 with the new U.H. script. With my background in retail and my wife's background in graphic design what we can tell is that when something of that nature changes the tendency is to feature that change somehow.Especially, if this is a mainstay product, and this was one of the knives that put them on the map. This is how I am certain that even though there is not a clear picture of the blade in the '85 '86,'87 catalogs, with the "88 catalog featuring the LB7 on it's cover; It's a pretty clear indication that this was the year this change occurred.

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Here are my 2: LB7 and LB3
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My LB7 and LB3. I have never seen an LB3 with a handle like this and cannot find anything on the net regarding this knife either. they all only have wood handles. Anyone can help with that?
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Great knives being posted! Love the dealer countertop displays.
blade_1971 wrote:Here are my 2: LB7 and LB3
Nice! I really like your LB3.

Your LB3 has burnt sambar stag handles. It is a Schrade factory issue not a post-factory custom. They were made sometime in the '80s. Those file-worked stag ones are hard to find. I've also seen that LB3 together in a serialized set with a LB5 and LB7 to match.

Here's a pic of a LB5 done up the same. You will note it has a serial number on it. I think that's because this particular example was originally sold as part of the 3-knife matching set I mentioned. Your example was most likely sold by itself.
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Here's the LB7. I think you will find the filework to be the same pattern.
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Hey guys, I went through some of my paperwork from Schrade. I have some info on the factory customized knives but I will have to share it later. I did take pics of some early LB7 related material. Notice the address on canal street. The LB7 is what allowed schrade to buy the old channel master building and consolidate everything under one roof.
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bladecollectorr wrote:Great knives being posted! Love the dealer countertop displays.
blade_1971 wrote:Here are my 2: LB7 and LB3
Nice! I really like your LB3.

Your LB3 has burnt sambar stag handles. It is a Schrade factory issue not a post-factory custom. They were made sometime in the '80s. Those file-worked stag ones are hard to find. I've also seen that LB3 together in a serialized set with a LB5 and LB7 to match.

Here's a pic of a LB5 done up the same. You will note it has a serial number on it. I think that's because this particular example was originally sold as part of the 3-knife matching set I mentioned. Your example was most likely sold by itself.

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Here's the LB7. I think you will find the filework to be the same pattern.
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Wow! ::tu:: Thanks for the info. Any idea what it's worth?
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JAMESC41001 wrote:Hey guys, I went through some of my paperwork from Schrade. I have some info on the factory customized knives but I will have to share it later. I did take pics of some early LB7 related material. Notice the address on canal street. The LB7 is what allowed schrade to buy the old channel master building and consolidate everything under one roof. 8D35858B-D82D-4CC5-B59D-A47B0FD23A9B.jpegC79B198C-9732-4B0C-B55A-B7704982D3A0.jpeg5D31DDC7-DB15-4DA4-935E-9C578C1E3F5C.jpegEA411D67-6132-47F8-9E7F-607449EA5C94.jpeg
Nice!! ::tu:: ....Looking forward to the info on the factory customized knives.
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Here is the info on Schrades custom knife program.
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Thanks brother ::tu::
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You bet. Hope it helps. Schrade was doing some beautiful stuff there.
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