Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by bladecollectorr » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:36 pm

orvet wrote: I share your feelings towards the scrimshaw series. Giorgianni's artwork is incredible. I was fortunate enough to be able to get an original piece of his artwork. It was the result of an early attempt by a group of Schrade collectors on Blade Forums in 2006. There were only 25 knives made and they were hand scrims by Frank Giorgianni Sr. His son said that because of his ill health they were probably the last knives that his dad would ever scrim. Frank also etched the blades.
Rather than post the knife again, here's the link to where it is posted on AAPK: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11928&p=99435&hilit ... haw#p99435
I have seen that 2006 special (in pictures) before. Awesome collectible! I have one of the Moore Handley Centennial scrim knives he did in 1982. One of my favorite Schrade knives too because of the Giorgianni legacy.
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blade_1971 wrote:Yes, that's the set I have. That is a way better picture of it than I have. I will save it for reference.
lrv (Larry) collector site is an indespensible resource for Schrade collectors. A lot of questions find answers there and it's still growing. Bookmark that link!

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by tongueriver » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:50 pm

I sold a daddy barlow to Eric with Giorgianni original actual scrimshaw on white bone which he might share, or maybe I already posted it somewhere here a long time back. Also, Bill Feeney also did some actual scrimshaw. I have two of his canoes in mother of pearl. They are both available. There is nothing like the real deal, is there?

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by JAMESC41001 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:20 pm

Great conversation. Not sure if it helps but I remember the reason for a design change for the LB7 being springs that were braking. The first ones were flat on the top and bottom and they changed to a round spring. I also remember that even after they went to 3 pins they continued stamping out the four pin liners rather then retool. If you take notice to the three blades shown here you can see the also changed the locking mechanism dimensions. I don’t remember if these changes were all done together or at different times. I have a quite a few variations. Have to dig them out and take some picks. Maybe I have one that can add to the conversation here.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by kootenay joe » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:30 pm

The "Moore Handley Centennial" knife shown above is marked :Schrade" but was made by Camillus, as were the other "IXL-Wostenholm" lock backs. To me, who made it is more important than what the tang happens to say, however i do know that some collectors prefer to go by what the markings say.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by JAMESC41001 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:48 am

Got LB7’s on my mind recently thanks to this post. Carried one around today. Always feels good to have one on me. Took this pick tonight. One of the first with one of the last. Serial 20111 on the countertop display. Lot of water under the bridge between these two. Someone said here that the LB7 put Schrade on the map. I would say kept them on the map might be more accurate. I’ve never put all the LB7 variations I have together but I am going to dig them out and take some pics. They are great knives.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by Meridian_Mike » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:55 am

I know this is REAL DANGEROUS for ME to say.....

But.... please do put the LB7 variations together either in this thread or a "LB7 variations" thread. I have a couple of different ones BUT.... I do need more!

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That is a killer combo you have there.....!!
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by tongueriver » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:58 pm

Don't forget the 7OTs and LB8s. They are all in the same litter and I personally greatly prefer the non-stainless 7OT, both for the steel and the aesthetics. Just me?

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by Meridian_Mike » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:13 pm

tongueriver wrote:Don't forget the 7OTs and LB8s. They are all in the same litter and I personally greatly prefer the non-stainless 7OT, both for the steel and the aesthetics. Just me?
Nope... not just you.... I'm in the carbon steel crowd. I have several SS knives but not a big fan.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by orvet » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:20 pm

When one considers all the variations on the LB7 such as; LB7, LB8, 6OT, 7OT and the Heritage versions together, it causes me to wonder whether the design teams ever talked to one another? ::shrug::

I will need to take some pictures, but I know there are at least 2 variations in the placement of the rocker pin in the lock bar, at least 2 sizes of locking lugs on the end of the lock bars. There are at least 2 different size pivot pin holes in the blades and there may be a couple locations for the pivot hole in the tang of the blade. I will have to double-check that.

Originally I had thought the parts between these different lockback knives, all built on the same frame, should be interchangeable. I found out that is not the case.
I will come back later with some pictures to show some of the differences between these patterns, and some are design changes.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by Meridian_Mike » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:44 pm

orvet wrote:When one considers all the variations on the LB7 such as; LB7, LB8, 6OT, 7OT and the Heritage versions together, it causes me to wonder whether the design teams ever talked to one another? ::shrug::

I will need to take some pictures, but I know there are at least 2 variations in the placement of the rocker pin in the lock bar, at least 2 sizes of locking lugs on the end of the lock bars. There are at least 2 different size pivot pin holes in the blades and there may be a couple locations for the pivot hole in the tang of the blade. I will have to double-check that.

Originally I had thought the parts between these different lockback knives, all built on the same frame, should be interchangeable. I found out that is not the case.
I will come back later with some pictures to show some of the differences between these patterns, and some are design changes.
Very cool Dale....
You gonna post here or start a "variations" thread?
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I'm happy either way....
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by tongueriver » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:32 pm

I hope that I am not hijacking the thread; I did not go back and see how it started. Here are two variants. The 4-pin 7OT was released in very small numbers, starting (I think) with this one. They very soon went to 3 pin and the 7OT was dwarfed in numbers by the LB7s.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by JAMESC41001 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:33 pm

Nice show there Cal! Dale that Is great info and new to me. Thanks for sharing that. Mike I’m going to shoot some pics and post later on tonight. I’m really looking forward to seeing more of these great knives posted and learning more about them and the history. As a side note I remember being told how Schrade ramped up production of these knives so quickly some of the production/assembly space they moved into still had red shag carpeting on the floor that they did not even bother pulling up. That must of been a sight to see.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by Meridian_Mike » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:40 pm

This is going to fun!
I think I have 3 - 7OT variations and maybe a couple of the LB7 variations. I can't wait to see more of these guys!

Cal... those are some REAL BEAUTIES you have there!
That birds-eye maple version is a KILLER!!

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by tongueriver » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:48 pm

I wanted to show this one for a reason. First of all it is micarta, not Delrin and therefore not a common creature for Schrade. It is part of the American Express SFO series, all in micarta. There is another unusual attribute to these knives in that series. If one has several examples in one pattern (and I am thinking of 3 different Thomas Jefferson folding hunters, in my own experience) I have noticed two different little signatures on the "scrimshaw" art on ONE pattern, and looking at some of the other patterns in the series which I have, I saw a third signature. But the art is 'almost' identical on two knives of the SAME pattern. So, what is going on? Are these actual scrimshaws instead of hot stamps? Maybe Eric has a thought?
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by orvet » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:09 pm

Here is the picture I took this afternoon of the 5 inch LB type blades.
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I listed the variations of blades I have that fit this frame.
I will post it for you and try to come back and answer any questions I can later on this evening.

Hope this is helpful
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