Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by JAMESC41001 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:24 pm

That is a cool knife Cal. Those are the kind of details I enjoy hearing about. Hope nobody minds me posting these two but I wanted to show them off and maybe get some input. The one is customized by David Yellowhorse. This collaboration may have paved the way a bit for the D’Holders that followed. And of course Herman is Herman. They are part of my uncle henry collection for me they are an interesting and appropriate part of the story.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by doglegg » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:47 pm

The famous athletes and entertainers that go by one name are numerous but Herman is one name pretty renowned in knife circles. ::nod:: ::nod::

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by orvet » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:09 am

Someone had mentioned earlier that blades for the scrimshaw LB7 are listed in the catalog as 507SC while the number actually stamped on the knife is SC507. It bothered me when I saw that because I thought I remembered this blade.
The two blades in this picture are the SC507 which is what we are used to seeing stamped on the tang of a scrimshaw series LB7 the other blade is the one that we never seem to see, the 507SC. I thought I remembered this blade, but when I looked before I couldn't find it, this time I found the blade. I don't know when this 507SC was manufactured.
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Here is a Heritage blade that I overlooked in the first picture, compared to an LB7 blade.
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By way of explanation: you will notice there is a little tip at the very point of the blade. This indicates the blade is a new blade that has not been installed in a knife and sharpened. That little extra material at the end of the tip acts as a heatsink when sharpening the blade. In the first picture I posted many of the blades were used and did not have that. The use blades, especially the LB8 blades are very difficult to find unused.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by JAMESC41001 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:27 am

Very good info Dale. I have a Heritage blade after heat treat before grinding. It is at my work so I will look for it tomorrow. Very interesting stuff. As you know the drop point lb7 is a little tricky to find. I was lucky enough to find a blade blank for these. Here they are.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by orvet » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:39 am

This is a pattern you don't see much, 9OT Golden Claw. I don't have any blades for it, apart from the limited edition blades, I have plenty of those.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by JAMESC41001 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:44 am

Dale maybe you can help confirm something for me. This is heavy piece of metal. It came from Schrade. It was explained to me that the assemblers used it as a gauge to make sure parts fit correctly. I’m guessing the rosewood handles?? But not sure.
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PS that old timer with the gut hook is way cool. Never seen one.

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by orvet » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:01 am

I agree, that looks like a jig that is used for checking a handle for the correct dimensions.

I have never seen one of those before, but it makes sense that you would double check the size of a handle blank, especially in a fast pace manufacturing environment. Way cool! ::tu::
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by JAMESC41001 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:13 am

Thanks Dale. Looking forward to posting some more tomorrow.

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by ea42 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:40 am

JAMESC41001 wrote:Dale maybe you can help confirm something for me. This is heavy piece of metal. It came from Schrade. It was explained to me that the assemblers used it as a gauge to make sure parts fit correctly. I’m guessing the rosewood handles?? But not sure. 8F7C9567-E058-4911-ACCE-71B50CAD5B43.jpeg
PS that old timer with the gut hook is way cool. Never seen one.
Jay that's a bolster scale block. The integral brass scales were formed from powdered brass that was put into a mold and pressed and heated under pressure to forge it together. What you have there is the first step in making the mold. That piece has a scale formed to the mold dimension (slightly oversize for the knife). It's hardened, then pressed into soft steel to form the actual mold. The mold was then hardened and was ready for service. The reason your piece is so thick was so that it could withstand the pressure of pressing it into another piece of similar steel without cracking or worse exploding.

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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by orvet » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:07 am

Thank you Eric, that's very interesting!
Is this the process of sintering, or at least sintered metal is used as a part of the process you describe?
As I understand it, Schrade (and other cutlery's like Camillus) used the powdered metal technology to make both bolsters and frames, as in this case.
It is my understanding correct, and if so when did Schrade and other cutlery's began using this technology extensively in their manufacturing processes?
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by JAMESC41001 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:35 pm

Eric, thanks so much for clearing that up. Makes a lot of sense now that you explained it.
Here is an LB9. I my experience from collecting Uncle Henry Knives this is among the hardest to track down. I’ve seen way more LB4’s for example then these. If anyone has an LB9 please post it I would really like to see them. Also I have a North American hunting Club knife. This one came out of the factory during the auction. It has no serial number on the knife or filled in on the certificate. I think it may be from the custom shop.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by Mustanger » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:03 am

JAMESC41001 wrote: If anyone has an LB9 please post it I would really like to see them.
My LB9 was made for the Rocky Mtn. Elk Foundation. I think it's the only one I've seen for sale.

Schrade also made a few factory stag handled LTD knives. I can't remember if I've seen another one of these.

I don't own the two on the bottom. But since we are looking at rare ones I thought I'd post them. Only ones I've seen, unfortunately. Obviously the wrong box for the Scrimshaw knife.
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by bladecollectorr » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:03 pm

orvet wrote:Someone had mentioned earlier that blades for the scrimshaw LB7 are listed in the catalog as 507SC while the number actually stamped on the knife is SC507. It bothered me when I saw that because I thought I remembered this blade.
The two blades in this picture are the SC507 which is what we are used to seeing stamped on the tang of a scrimshaw series LB7 the other blade is the one that we never seem to see, the 507SC. I thought I remembered this blade, but when I looked before I couldn't find it, this time I found the blade. I don't know when this 507SC was manufactured...
Well, now I have seen one. Note to self.. Thanks Dale
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by bladecollectorr » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:36 pm

tongueriver wrote:I wanted to show this one for a reason. First of all it is micarta, not Delrin and therefore not a common creature for Schrade. It is part of the American Express SFO series, all in micarta. There is another unusual attribute to these knives in that series. If one has several examples in one pattern (and I am thinking of 3 different Thomas Jefferson folding hunters, in my own experience) I have noticed two different little signatures on the "scrimshaw" art on ONE pattern, and looking at some of the other patterns in the series which I have, I saw a third signature. But the art is 'almost' identical on two knives of the SAME pattern. So, what is going on? Are these actual scrimshaws instead of hot stamps? Maybe Eric has a thought?SC 507 G.Washington.jpg
These Amex Presidents knives are real scrimshaw on micarta. The original artwork was not done by Frank Giorgianni. They were made in large quantities (6000 sets x 5 knives = 30000 knives). To get the 30000 done the scrimshanding was outsourced to a number of different artists hence the different signatures. Any knives that came back to Schrade with less-than-saleable scrims were touched-up before shipping by Frank Giorgianni.

Link with flyer & original artwork: http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/Ads/Amexs.pdf

More info including Tom Giorgianni's comment on his father's involvement: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/fiv ... et.397969/

Here's mine. Scrim signed "PS".
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Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7

Post by bladecollectorr » Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:01 pm

Cool examples folks! I love this pattern! Big canvas for embellishment. Keep the variations coming!

More real scrimshaw on yellow linen micarta. Harry Gant Commemorative:
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