Re: Schrade Uncle Henry LB7
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:04 pm
Another "Harry Gant" HG7LTD:
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orvet wrote:When one considers all the variations on the LB7 such as; LB7, LB8, 6OT, 7OT and the Heritage versions together, it causes me to wonder whether the design teams ever talked to one another?
I will need to take some pictures, but I know there are at least 2 variations in the placement of the rocker pin in the lock bar, at least 2 sizes of locking lugs on the end of the lock bars. There are at least 2 different size pivot pin holes in the blades and there may be a couple locations for the pivot hole in the tang of the blade. I will have to double-check that.
Originally I had thought the parts between these different lockback knives, all built on the same frame, should be interchangeable. I found out that is not the case.
I will come back later with some pictures to show some of the differences between these patterns, and some are design changes.
As far as I can tell every staglon Bear Paw from 1978 until 2000 shared this feature. The raised, spun lockbar pin is on every LB8 I can find pictures of. The 4-pin Craftsman would be the same era as 4-pin LB7 so 1978 to 1980 or early 1981.JAMESC41001 wrote:...I notice this one shares the same rounded, pertruding rocker pin as the craftsman version so I am wondering when the craftsman’s first appeared and whether the Dixieland sets shared this feature as well?
fyi all the 7OT and sambar handled knives also have the domed lockbar pin. I think only normal LB7, scrimshaw and some delrin handled SFOs have it ground flat.JAMESC41001 wrote:Yes, makes sense. Can’t grind them smooth because of the handle material. ::dang::
Hey guys the raised pin is due to the fact that it's stainless on soft brass. When the bolsters are buffed the softer brass wears away faster than the hard stainless pin resulting in the pin being raised. The more they're buffed, the more pronounced the pin is, and they require extra buffing because scratches were harder to buff out of the stainless as well. The super strong pins were a selling point, but I never really liked the way it looked.bladecollectorr wrote:As far as I can tell every staglon Bear Paw from 1978 until 2000 shared this feature. The raised, spun lockbar pin is on every LB8 I can find pictures of. The 4-pin Craftsman would be the same era as 4-pin LB7 so 1978 to 1980 or early 1981.JAMESC41001 wrote:...I notice this one shares the same rounded, pertruding rocker pin as the craftsman version so I am wondering when the craftsman’s first appeared and whether the Dixieland sets shared this feature as well?
Here are three of the 1980 Dixie Collection knives. All have the raised pin.
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Here are my 2: LB7 and LB3blade_1971 wrote:Hi,
I am new to the forum. I have been researching my late fathers knife collection, and I ran across something that may prove helpful concerning the dating of LB7's. Through many hours of searching through catalogs I have found the following: The first instance of a 3 pin LB7 is found in 1985 and the first instance of the "Uncle Henry" script added was 1988. I ascertained this information by going through each page and zooming in on the pictures. Although you must take care when doing this because only the individual knife pictures can truly reveal this info because some of the display knife pictures can not be updated to the new year because the knives are still in the same place on the display. The pictures are clear. The first 3 pin LB7 shows up in the 1986 catalog, and again in the 1987 catalog. Then, on the cover of the 1988 catalog is a picture of the LB7 with the new U.H. script. With my background in retail and my wife's background in graphic design what we can tell is that when something of that nature changes the tendency is to feature that change somehow.Especially, if this is a mainstay product, and this was one of the knives that put them on the map. This is how I am certain that even though there is not a clear picture of the blade in the '85 '86,'87 catalogs, with the "88 catalog featuring the LB7 on it's cover; It's a pretty clear indication that this was the year this change occurred.
Best Regards,
Rusty
Nice! I really like your LB3.blade_1971 wrote:Here are my 2: LB7 and LB3
Wow! Thanks for the info. Any idea what it's worth?bladecollectorr wrote:Great knives being posted! Love the dealer countertop displays.
Nice! I really like your LB3.blade_1971 wrote:Here are my 2: LB7 and LB3
Your LB3 has burnt sambar stag handles. It is a Schrade factory issue not a post-factory custom. They were made sometime in the '80s. Those file-worked stag ones are hard to find. I've also seen that LB3 together in a serialized set with a LB5 and LB7 to match.
Here's a pic of a LB5 done up the same. You will note it has a serial number on it. I think that's because this particular example was originally sold as part of the 3-knife matching set I mentioned. Your example was most likely sold by itself.
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Here's the LB7. I think you will find the filework to be the same pattern.
its worth
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Nice!! ....Looking forward to the info on the factory customized knives.JAMESC41001 wrote:Hey guys, I went through some of my paperwork from Schrade. I have some info on the factory customized knives but I will have to share it later. I did take pics of some early LB7 related material. Notice the address on canal street. The LB7 is what allowed schrade to buy the old channel master building and consolidate everything under one roof. 8D35858B-D82D-4CC5-B59D-A47B0FD23A9B.jpegC79B198C-9732-4B0C-B55A-B7704982D3A0.jpeg5D31DDC7-DB15-4DA4-935E-9C578C1E3F5C.jpegEA411D67-6132-47F8-9E7F-607449EA5C94.jpeg