I'm aware of the mish-mash between schrade/imperial/camillus etc...
But haven't seen this before...
Few years ago I took apart a Chicago cutlery folding hunter with swinden key construction.
Just thought this interesting.
Imperial w/swinden key
Re: Imperial w/swinden key
I thought Camillus made those Double Eagles? Thus, typically not Swinden, but pinned. Normally. I have a Medium Stockman, a Sportsman's Knife, and a Sears Craftsman 95325 (identical to a Frontier; however); and all are pin-through.
That's one thing about Camillus and Schrade. They both made knives for the same third parties, and for each other. It gets extremely confusing once you get into them. And they're the brands that interest me the most; along with tool-branded knives, which means a bunch of Sears Craftsman, most of which either one or the other made for Sears.
That's one thing about Camillus and Schrade. They both made knives for the same third parties, and for each other. It gets extremely confusing once you get into them. And they're the brands that interest me the most; along with tool-branded knives, which means a bunch of Sears Craftsman, most of which either one or the other made for Sears.
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Re: Imperial w/swinden key
A given company did not necessarily make the whole knife. Imperial could send some blades over to Schrade for completion. I believe that I have read here somewhere that Schrade sent some 8OT parts over to Camillus, and thus there were a few Schrade 8OTs with through-pin construction.
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Re: Imperial w/swinden key
I believe that the Imperial factory in Providence had the tooling to put knives together with the Swinden construction.
I recently purchased a small group of knives from a collector in Rhode Island - the knives had come off of a wall display located in the office of the quality control manager in the Imperial factory. These were a mixed group of Imperial Frontier, Imperial Diamond Edge, and Craftsman marked knives - all solid bolster knives with Swinden construction.
That said, yes it has been shown that some Imperials and some Old Timers were made with pinned-through construction, made in the Camillus plant.
Further confusing things, Schrade did make some Delrin handled knives with pinned-through construction. I recently had an SS825 "Razor Blade Stainless" stockman with Delrin handles and pinned through bolster construction. The razor blade stainless knives were introduced in 1965, so it is possible that the use of Swinden construction started about that time or a bit later.
I recently purchased a small group of knives from a collector in Rhode Island - the knives had come off of a wall display located in the office of the quality control manager in the Imperial factory. These were a mixed group of Imperial Frontier, Imperial Diamond Edge, and Craftsman marked knives - all solid bolster knives with Swinden construction.
That said, yes it has been shown that some Imperials and some Old Timers were made with pinned-through construction, made in the Camillus plant.
Further confusing things, Schrade did make some Delrin handled knives with pinned-through construction. I recently had an SS825 "Razor Blade Stainless" stockman with Delrin handles and pinned through bolster construction. The razor blade stainless knives were introduced in 1965, so it is possible that the use of Swinden construction started about that time or a bit later.
Steve Pfeiffer, author of Collecting Case Knives: Identification and Price Guide published by Krause Publications.