I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

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JAMESC41001 wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:12 pm Here’s the line up Mike. Forgot about the 165uh. They made those with some stamps on front side and some on the back side.
And...WOW... those are simply BEAUTIFUL!!!!

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JAMESC41001 wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:12 pm Forgot about the 165uh. They made those with some stamps on front side and some on the back side.
The first ones were stamped on the back or 'left' side. The first ones had the thumb grooves and non-stainless steel.
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tongueriver wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:20 pm
JAMESC41001 wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:12 pm Forgot about the 165uh. They made those with some stamps on front side and some on the back side.
The first ones were stamped on the back or 'left' side. The first ones had the thumb grooves and non-stainless steel.
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Thanks Mike, Schrade made two SW UH only dealer displays. They are very cool. Here are pics.
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WOW...
Those displays are SWEET!

Totally amazing!

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Those are stunning! 8) ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks guys. I have these two and two others that are not SW. as far as I can tell they are the only 4 uh only displays. The 285uh in the top one is serial 062. The lowest serial I have.
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Hey guys, here is a pic of both the SW easy vendors together. Schrade called them the SW69 and SW70. They list in the catalog that there is a version of the 69 with a 227 but I have never seen one. They also list a version of the 70 with a 172 in it but I have not seen that and don’t see where it could fit with the 171 in there. I don’t believe that happened unless they took the sheath out. Here are the catalog cuts.
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I wonder if any of this has to do with when the knife was actually released?
I mean, by not having all the knives they offer in a display, then how would they sell the other one or 2 knives without having them in a display at a store?
Is there any documentation that shows when knives were available for the salesmen to offer?
These displays maybe? ::shrug::
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That is some great info on the Uncle Henrys James.
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Thanks for sharing!

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Mike you are spot on. The numbers in the displays represent the years they were first offered. The 171uh came out in 1971. Same with the 172. But these are kind of unique examples as Schrade did not stick to that logic much. These displays were absolutely the Corner stone of schrades sales and marketing approach. They represent a big part of what the company was about and how they were so successful during a time of mom and pop retail stores.
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WHAT GETS ME IS......
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Why did Schrade not have a display with BOTH the 127 and the 227 in it?
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It was like SW only offered a folding hunter in ONE configuration in any one display. (I am just throwing this out there)... I might be wrong?
You could get a 127 if it was at this particular store..... BUT you had to go to another store to get the 227..... (??????)
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Isn't this a little counter productive?
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Why not offer everything you have and let the consumer decide?

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Mike the next uncle Henry display the 59uh came out in 74 and it had both the 227 and the 127. Schrade used these as a gauge to see what retailers were ordering to restock their displays and through these orders they would understand which knives were strong seller. This is why you would see some only around for a short time. It is interesting to see how these displays evolved over time. I am loading up my other two uh displays now. I will shoot you some pics of the changes if you’d like. Here is some info on the 59 uh.
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JAMESC41001 wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:36 pm Thanks Mike, Schrade made two SW UH only dealer displays. They are very cool. Here are pics.
How did I miss these displays - outstanding! I don't think I've seen either one of them before.
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JAMESC41001 wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:26 pm I am loading up my other two uh displays now. I will shoot you some pics of the changes if you’d like. Here is some info on the 59 uh.
You are dog gone right I want to see those!

MAN... you sure 'nuff have some good Uncle Henry information!

THANKS so much for adding to this thread!

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For the 59uh Schrade went over to the vacuum formed trays. They made it so retailers could sell right out of the trays. The previous ones we wire tied on panels. The green on the original panels was a spray. It’s very delicate. Rubs off if you brush it with you fingers. They were stapled covers put together like picture frames. Here is a pic
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I wondered about the innards of those displays. I have four of the SW displays which are basically like your image, but no innards. They could be available but a nuisance to try to ship.
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VERY cool display James....

SO... when does this green one date to?
(Is there an exact year date for it?)

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tongueriver wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:28 pm I have four of the SW displays which are basically like your image, but no innards. They could be available but a nuisance to try to ship.
Well, I guess even if you do have an extra early Old Timer display, you wouldn't want to ship it to me.... (????)

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Meridian_Mike wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:14 pm My folding UH display.....

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:shock: Looks Awesome Mike! ::tu:: ::nod::
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TPK wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:10 pm
:shock: Looks Awesome Mike! ::tu:: ::nod::
Thanks Tom!
Just my way of showing a little bit of "Uncle Henry" pride!

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I just happened to have rescued a 59UH Display this past weekend. Here is a quick cellphone picture. I haven't even had the opportunity to wipe this down yet...but here it is...

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WOW....
That display is a REAL BEAUTY!!
Congrats on the find Tom.
(I am jealous!!!!)

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Chase wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:34 pm I just happened to have rescued a 59UH Display this past weekend. Here is a quick cellphone picture. I haven't even had the opportunity to wipe this down yet...but here it is...

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Mike, looks like the 227 had a very long run. Even when the LB7 and the other lock backs were in circulation. You can see it in the 1011-uh. This is the only other UH only display I know of. Came out in the 80’s. This evolved once more. Retailers did not have to take knives out of the tray, instead there was room for storage in the display. Also they were able to be locked.
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Picked that little beauty up along with a lot of other Schrades. Part of an Uncle's gathering.

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