I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by Meridian_Mike » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:19 pm

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Here’s the line up Mike. Forgot about the 165uh. They made those with some stamps on front side and some on the back side.
And...WOW... those are simply BEAUTIFUL!!!!

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by tongueriver » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:20 pm

JAMESC41001 wrote:
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Forgot about the 165uh. They made those with some stamps on front side and some on the back side.
The first ones were stamped on the back or 'left' side. The first ones had the thumb grooves and non-stainless steel.

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by Meridian_Mike » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:24 pm

tongueriver wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:20 pm
JAMESC41001 wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:12 pm
Forgot about the 165uh. They made those with some stamps on front side and some on the back side.
The first ones were stamped on the back or 'left' side. The first ones had the thumb grooves and non-stainless steel.
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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by JAMESC41001 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:36 pm

Thanks Mike, Schrade made two SW UH only dealer displays. They are very cool. Here are pics.
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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by Meridian_Mike » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:41 pm

WOW...
Those displays are SWEET!

Totally amazing!

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by tongueriver » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:42 pm

Those are stunning! 8) ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by JAMESC41001 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:55 pm

Thanks guys. I have these two and two others that are not SW. as far as I can tell they are the only 4 uh only displays. The 285uh in the top one is serial 062. The lowest serial I have.

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by JAMESC41001 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:20 pm

Hey guys, here is a pic of both the SW easy vendors together. Schrade called them the SW69 and SW70. They list in the catalog that there is a version of the 69 with a 227 but I have never seen one. They also list a version of the 70 with a 172 in it but I have not seen that and don’t see where it could fit with the 171 in there. I don’t believe that happened unless they took the sheath out. Here are the catalog cuts.
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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by Meridian_Mike » Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:52 am

I wonder if any of this has to do with when the knife was actually released?
I mean, by not having all the knives they offer in a display, then how would they sell the other one or 2 knives without having them in a display at a store?
Is there any documentation that shows when knives were available for the salesmen to offer?
These displays maybe? ::shrug::
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That is some great info on the Uncle Henrys James.
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Thanks for sharing!

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by JAMESC41001 » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:26 pm

Mike you are spot on. The numbers in the displays represent the years they were first offered. The 171uh came out in 1971. Same with the 172. But these are kind of unique examples as Schrade did not stick to that logic much. These displays were absolutely the Corner stone of schrades sales and marketing approach. They represent a big part of what the company was about and how they were so successful during a time of mom and pop retail stores.

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by Meridian_Mike » Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:44 pm

WHAT GETS ME IS......
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Why did Schrade not have a display with BOTH the 127 and the 227 in it?
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It was like SW only offered a folding hunter in ONE configuration in any one display. (I am just throwing this out there)... I might be wrong?
You could get a 127 if it was at this particular store..... BUT you had to go to another store to get the 227..... (??????)
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Isn't this a little counter productive?
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Why not offer everything you have and let the consumer decide?

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by JAMESC41001 » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:26 pm

Mike the next uncle Henry display the 59uh came out in 74 and it had both the 227 and the 127. Schrade used these as a gauge to see what retailers were ordering to restock their displays and through these orders they would understand which knives were strong seller. This is why you would see some only around for a short time. It is interesting to see how these displays evolved over time. I am loading up my other two uh displays now. I will shoot you some pics of the changes if you’d like. Here is some info on the 59 uh.
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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by jxr1197 » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:35 pm

JAMESC41001 wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:36 pm
Thanks Mike, Schrade made two SW UH only dealer displays. They are very cool. Here are pics.
How did I miss these displays - outstanding! I don't think I've seen either one of them before.
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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by Meridian_Mike » Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:42 pm

JAMESC41001 wrote:
Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:26 pm
I am loading up my other two uh displays now. I will shoot you some pics of the changes if you’d like. Here is some info on the 59 uh.
You are dog gone right I want to see those!

MAN... you sure 'nuff have some good Uncle Henry information!

THANKS so much for adding to this thread!

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Re: I finally got that 227 UH I was looking for

Post by JAMESC41001 » Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:21 pm

For the 59uh Schrade went over to the vacuum formed trays. They made it so retailers could sell right out of the trays. The previous ones we wire tied on panels. The green on the original panels was a spray. It’s very delicate. Rubs off if you brush it with you fingers. They were stapled covers put together like picture frames. Here is a pic
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