Are they coming home ??????????

[JonTerry]

Watch a Video today with William Schrade ( The Grandson of the man )

It kinda ended with him saying Shrade is Going to set up in the USA again ??? is this true ???

JT

[philco]

Hi Jon,

Would you happen to have a link to that video? I sure would like to see it.
My understanding is that when Schrade went belly up the trademarks and intellectual property (designs and such) were sold, and Stuart Taylor ended up owning them. He had a few Schrade branded knives made here in the USA (by Bear and Son and by GEC) but very shortly thereafter arranged for Schrade knives to be manufactured in China. If production is returning to the USA, it sure would be contrary to the steady stream of US brands that have gone out of business and later reincarnated as China made cutlery.

[tongueriver]

Phil, I believe he is talking about the George Schrade company. Different company, not related to Imperial Schrade.

[philco]

Phil, I believe he is talking about the George Schrade company. Different company, not related to Imperial Schrade.

Thanks Cal. That would certainly make more sense.

[ea42]

It's Schrade that the video refers to, not the George Schrade Company (although Bill talks about his family history). Smith and Wesson now owns the Schrade intellectual property and is trying to bring Schrade production back to the U.S.. They've already got some models on the market. Those knives are marked "Old Timer" with no hint of the Schrade name, but the construction is the same as the older models. I have no idea if any actual "Schrade" badged knives are in the pipeline. Also have no idea who's making them now.

Bill's a one man George Schrade Company now and he's putting out some gorgeous knives.

Eric

[tongueriver]

It's Schrade that the video refers to, not the George Schrade Company (although Bill talks about his family history). Smith and Wesson now owns the Schrade intellectual property and is trying to bring Schrade production back to the U.S.. They've already got some models on the market. Those knives are marked "Old Timer" with no hint of the Schrade name, but the construction is the same as the older models. I have no idea if any actual "Schrade" badged knives are in the pipeline. Also have no idea who's making them now.

Bill's a one man George Schrade Company now and he's putting out some gorgeous knives.

Eric

Thanks for lighting the lamp; I can see (more) clearly now!

[ea42]

Any time Cal!!

Eric

[Mumbleypeg]

It's Schrade that the video refers to, not the George Schrade Company (although Bill talks about his family history). Smith and Wesson now owns the Schrade intellectual property and is trying to bring Schrade production back to the U.S.. They've already got some models on the market. Those knives are marked "Old Timer" with no hint of the Schrade name, but the construction is the same as the older models. I have no idea if any actual "Schrade" badged knives are in the pipeline. Also have no idea who's making them now.

Bill's a one man George Schrade Company now and he's putting out some gorgeous knives.

Eric

That is great news! Really hope they can pull it off. S&W knows how to successfully run a U.S. manufacturing operation producing a quality product. However those expecting to get a $10 knife will no doubt be disappointed.

Ken

[1967redrider]

Keeping my fingers crossed. I have a Smith & Wesson M&P auto and it's perfectly designed and a quality USA made knife.

[JonTerry]

Hi Jon,

Would you happen to have a link to that video? I sure would like to see it.
My understanding is that when Schrade went belly up the trademarks and intellectual property (designs and such) were sold, and Stuart Taylor ended up owning them. He had a few Schrade branded knives made here in the USA (by Bear and Son and by GEC) but very shortly thereafter arranged for Schrade knives to be manufactured in China. If production is returning to the USA, it sure would be contrary to the steady stream of US brands that have gone out of business and later reincarnated as China made cutlery.

Here we go Mate.

https://vimeo.com/742812133/a4f1c215ad? ... r=19981152

[tongueriver]

Great video regarding the George Schrade legacy. Many folk interested in Schrade confuse the two companies. Bill is a descendant of George Schrade, who left the Walden company which became what we know as Schrade Walden. The George Schrade company (1926-1958) operated out of Bridgeport, Connecticut, not Walden, New York. George left all ties with Walden and the other Schrade brothers in 1910. That said, whatever Schrade knives are now and in the future made in the United States don't really have anything to do with either company. It will be very interesting to see what happens! I hope we get oodles of good information as to how this plays out.

[tongueriver]

By the way knives with Schrade markings that were made in the United States include those by Kinfolks, Great Eastern, Bear and Son, Camillus, and Imperial.

[philco]

I stumbled across the page in the link below. Looks like this may be one of the new USA made knives Eric told us about ?

https://www.knives.com/knives/knife-use ... /1739021?m

[edge213]

I stumbled across the page in the link below. Looks like this may be one of the new USA made knives Eric told us about ?

https://www.knives.com/knives/knife-use ... /1739021?m

From the looks of the jigging I would say it was made by Bear.

[1967redrider]

The 94OTG seemed to be Peanut sized, but I found this Lockback with a 3" blade and 3 1/2" closed length, which is more appealing to me.

[JonTerry]

I stumbled across the page in the link below. Looks like this may be one of the new USA made knives Eric told us about ?

https://www.knives.com/knives/knife-use ... /1739021?m

From the looks of the jigging I would say it was made by Bear.

I cannot get access to the site, I am suspecting this is the use a Sledge Hammer to crack a walnut approach for UK buyers, as they probably sell prohibited items alongside the item we can import to the UK ???

[Dan In MI]

Yes, the site that Phil linked to has autos and balisongs on offer. Would the UK government really forbid the mere browsing of such a site?

I received a Knife Center e-mail some time ago that heralded the return of USA Schrades. At the time, I thought it may have been too good to be true. I'll be watching for further developments.

[JonTerry]

Yes, the site that Phil linked to has autos and balisongs on offer. Would the UK government really forbid the mere browsing of such a site?

I received a Knife Center e-mail some time ago that heralded the return of USA Schrades. At the time, I thought it may have been too good to be true. I'll be watching for further developments.

It would be the site, getting confused. It bugs me that USA sites do this or refuse to ship to the UK under the grounds that UK law prohibits knives, when actually it is only a few designs which are not allowed. This is also the case for certain states in the US, I cannot understand why the companies cannot just put the same caveats on the UK sales as they would for certain USA states ? They would do a lot of business here to be honest.

No company would want the break rules but it would only take a few minutes to read the UK border rules to realise they had a bigger market than they thought.

The likes of Ebay/Amazon have independently chosen not to sell on the UK platforms for fear of backlash from the UK public (this is not a law they can sell if they chose to)
Teenage Knife crime is mostly done with kitchen knives from home or purchased in the supermarket.

We can still buy knives online from many retailers in the UK, we just need proof of age. Some sites in the USA sell to me some won't, if it because they don't want the hassle of overseas shipping then I can except that, but if it because of miss information then it annoys me.

Even Buck will ship Custom made knives to the UK despite there being no UK shipping options on thier site, all you need to do is email them wait an age and they will reply with a full quotation of costs, including shipping/taxes/customs charges all the way to your front door, they take control of everything to make the transaction as smooth as possible. (probably not alot of UK guys know this but all you need to do is contact Buck directly)

Anyway enough of my soap box ..............carry on

[ea42]

Good info Jon!

Eric

[LRV]

The new USA Schrades can be viewed here.

https://www.schrade.com/knives/

Schrade knives are made by AOB American Outdoor Brands
AOB is an offshoot of Smith and Wesson whom bought the Schrade name a few years ago.
Not the old Schrade designs for sure.

[tongueriver]

They are starting to show up on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125722754097?h ... R4Dpvs-3YQ