Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

The W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Company has a very rich history that began in 1889 when William Russell (“W.R.”), Jean, John, and Andrew Case began fashioning their knives and selling them along a wagon trail in upstate New York. The company has produced countless treasures and it continues to do so as one of the most collected brands in the world.
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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby gsmith7158 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:21 am

Excellent pick up Tom! The arched cut co. stamp is great . Do you think possibly pre 1900 contract knife? ::tu::
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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby peanut740 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:05 pm

Wow Tom,your top shelf is getting very crowded! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby olderdogs1 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:52 pm

gsmith7158 wrote:Excellent pick up Tom! The arched cut co. stamp is great . Do you think possibly pre 1900 contract knife? ::tu::


Thanks Roger & Greg, ::tu:: ::tu::
I believe that the Case Bros Cutlery Co. arched Stamp Is a very early Stamp. I would doubt that it is pre 1900 with the Little Valley Stamp but could very possibly be a contract knife.

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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby olderdogs1 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:37 pm

Here is a very unusual knife in my opinion. W. R. Case & Sons Rogers bone 62027 with XX Stamped on the blade similar to a Case Bros knife. Since W R Case didn't purchase the XX trademark until 1915 I would assume this one was produced a little later. Makes me wonder what happened to the old Case Bros blades after they closed. I do believe this knife is 100% authentic.

Thanks for looking ::tu::

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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby Mumbleypeg » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:04 pm

Nice find Tom. IIRC at least one account of the transaction stated that as part of the Case Brothers bankruptcy, W.R. Case bought assets including equipment, as well as the Tested XX trademark. It stands to reason that parts and inventory could have been included as well.

To me that’s what makes the Case story so intriguing. I’m always intrigued by that Case family tree chart in Levine’s Guide showing the various Case family members and the cutlery companies they either founded or operated in various capacities. It takes up two full pages! Here is this family, many of them involved in cutlery businesses and fierce competitors, yet they are brothers, sisters, fathers, uncles, wives, nieces, in-laws, etc - all members of the same family, descendants of Job Case. We know they competed. We also know from evidence that they collaborated, at times making product for each other, and even joint ventures like Kinfolks. It would have been interesting to be a “fly on the wall” at family holiday gatherings. ::hmm::

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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby olderdogs1 » Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:53 pm

Mumbleypeg wrote:Nice find Tom. IIRC at least one account of the transaction stated that as part of the Case Brothers bankruptcy, W.R. Case bought assets including equipment, as well as the Tested XX trademark. It stands to reason that parts and inventory could have been included as well.

To me that’s what makes the Case story so intriguing. I’m always intrigued by that Case family tree chart in Levine’s Guide showing the various Case family members and the cutlery companies they either founded or operated in various capacities. It takes up two full pages! Here is this family, many of them involved in cutlery businesses and fierce competitors, yet they are brothers, sisters, fathers, uncles, wives, nieces, in-laws, etc - all members of the same family, descendants of Job Case. We know they competed. We also know from evidence that they collaborated, at times making product for each other, and even joint ventures like Kinfolks. It would have been interesting to be a “fly on the wall” at family holiday gatherings. ::hmm::

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I agree Ken, I have studied the relations of the family and their interactions. I tried to touch on a lot of that in my book. I hadn’t heard where WRCase and bought any inventory beyond the XX trademark. That was accomplished to avoid a lawsuit due to Case Bros salesman representing themselves as selling for WR Case & Sons. It was a tumultuous period for sure. My Knife with the two X’s Stamped on the blade says Case Bros all the way though. One of my best friends,Tony Foster is fond of answering my questions with “nobody knows” when I pose him similar inquiries. :: ::tu:: ::tu::

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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby cbfd » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:43 pm

Great find Tom,I`ve never seen such a Knife before.That has to qualify as Rare! BIll

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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby edge213 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:15 pm

olderdogs1 wrote:
Mumbleypeg wrote:Nice find Tom. IIRC at least one account of the transaction stated that as part of the Case Brothers bankruptcy, W.R. Case bought assets including equipment, as well as the Tested XX trademark. It stands to reason that parts and inventory could have been included as well.

To me that’s what makes the Case story so intriguing. I’m always intrigued by that Case family tree chart in Levine’s Guide showing the various Case family members and the cutlery companies they either founded or operated in various capacities. It takes up two full pages! Here is this family, many of them involved in cutlery businesses and fierce competitors, yet they are brothers, sisters, fathers, uncles, wives, nieces, in-laws, etc - all members of the same family, descendants of Job Case. We know they competed. We also know from evidence that they collaborated, at times making product for each other, and even joint ventures like Kinfolks. It would have been interesting to be a “fly on the wall” at family holiday gatherings. ::hmm::

Ken


I agree Ken, I have studied the relations of the family and their interactions. I tried to touch on a lot of that in my book. I hadn’t heard where WRCase and bought any inventory beyond the XX trademark. That was accomplished to avoid a lawsuit due to Case Bros salesman representing themselves as selling for WR Case & Sons. It was a tumultuous period for sure. My Knife with the two X’s Stamped on the blade says Case Bros all the way though. One of my best friends,Tony Foster is fond of answering my questions with “nobody knows” when I pose him similar inquiries. :: ::tu:: ::tu::

Tom

"Nobody knows" seems like a pretty accurate statement when it comes to cutlery.
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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby ScoutKnives » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:58 pm

I’m very excited to have picked up this early pre 1920 Case’s Bradford Pa Scout knife . Had one many years ago with the same stamp but this one is in much better condition ::ds:: .

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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby jlw257 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:09 pm

Mike, Awesome. Great Oid Knife ::tu:: ::tu::
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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby gsmith7158 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:19 pm

That's a beauty Mike! ::tu:: Congratulations. ::nod::
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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby olderdogs1 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:02 pm

Great knife Mike, in excellent condition from looking at the pictures, very rare I would think. ::tu::

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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby RalphAlsip » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:06 pm

Beautiful Case Bradford 6445 Scout knife. ::tu:: ::tu:: My understanding is the use of that shield was very limited.

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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby ScoutKnives » Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:35 pm

Thanks everyone , it definitely was well cared for .
Picture of the pattern number xx with 6445R .

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Re: Case & Case related knives over 100 years old

Postby olderdogs1 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:15 pm

Her is an old Case & Sons Bone Toenail that has a very unusual Tang Stamp on the main blade. I got the knife courtesy of Peanut740 at the Kentucky show this weekend. I let Tony Foster look at it and he had never encountered the slanted Tang stamp stamp either. Probably an early Contract Knife. It is 4 3/8" closed. As some of the ebay sellers say, "the condition is used" I would say "well used!!!"

Thanks for looking ::tu:: ::tu::

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