Ode To The 07

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Added these to the Case family.
2021 Case XX 6249W Copperhead with Caribbean Blue Sawcut bone & Wharncliffe blade and a 2021 Case XX 6249 Copperhead with the Antique Rogers Corn Cob Jig Bone
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Papa Bones wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:59 pm Added these to the Case family.
2021 Case XX 6249W Copperhead with Caribbean Blue Sawcut bone & Wharncliffe blade and a 2021 Case XX 6249 Copperhead with the Antique Rogers Corn Cob Jig Bone
Well, Smitty, your new 49s may not be 07s, but they're certainly "kissing cousins" (6th generation multiples). Of course, I am particularly fond of the Blue 49W, but both are very attractive knives. Now you've got The Monkey wondering why I ever stopped collecting Copperheads...so, thank you very much for that, buddy :lol: . Great scores on both. ::tu:: ::tu::
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QTCut5 wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:11 am
Papa Bones wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:59 pm Added these to the Case family.
2021 Case XX 6249W Copperhead with Caribbean Blue Sawcut bone & Wharncliffe blade and a 2021 Case XX 6249 Copperhead with the Antique Rogers Corn Cob Jig Bone
Well, Smitty, your new 49s may not be 07s, but they're certainly "kissing cousins" (6th generation multiples). Of course, I am particularly fond of the Blue 49W, but both are very attractive knives. Now you've got The Monkey wondering why I ever stopped collecting Copperheads...so, thank you very much for that, buddy :lol: . Great scores on both. ::tu:: ::tu::
Wow "Q"...... I must have been asleep at the wheel on this post. ::dang:: ::shrug:: I really don't know how I did this one. ::hmm:: Not enough coffee ::uc::
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Papa Bones wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:58 pm
QTCut5 wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:11 am
Papa Bones wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:59 pm Added these to the Case family.
2021 Case XX 6249W Copperhead with Caribbean Blue Sawcut bone & Wharncliffe blade and a 2021 Case XX 6249 Copperhead with the Antique Rogers Corn Cob Jig Bone
Well, Smitty, your new 49s may not be 07s, but they're certainly "kissing cousins" (6th generation multiples). Of course, I am particularly fond of the Blue 49W, but both are very attractive knives. Now you've got The Monkey wondering why I ever stopped collecting Copperheads...so, thank you very much for that, buddy :lol: . Great scores on both. ::tu:: ::tu::
Wow "Q"...... I must have been asleep at the wheel on this post. ::dang:: ::shrug:: I really don't know how I did this one. ::hmm:: Not enough coffee ::uc::
:lol: :lol: :lol: Smitty, you're not the first person to step on your whanger.
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jerryd6818 wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:04 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: Smitty, you're not the first person to step on your whanger.
As we use to say in the military..."I needed to get my head out my duffel bag"! Well..... that was the edited version. ::super_happy::
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Papa Bones wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:31 pm
jerryd6818 wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:04 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: Smitty, you're not the first person to step on your whanger.
As we use to say in the military..."I needed to get my head out my duffel bag"! Well..... that was the edited version. ::super_happy::
:lol: :lol: Or as our Senior Drill Instructor in boot camp was wont to say, "If you don't get your head out of your "sea bag" (edited version), I'll stick my boot right up there with it." He always sounded so serious. :mrgreen:
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Well boys & girls, I'm sure you'll all be happy to know that The Monkey finally tracked down and captured the elusive Red Scroll 5207...which may very well prove to be the final feather in my Mini-T cap. It's been a good run and I've had a lot of fun, but it looks like it all comes down to this...game, set & match. :)
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Congrats Q. Great knife. But are you sure the monkey understands? Again, a very lovely knife. ::nod:: ::nod::
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Looks Good there Q !!! ::tu:: ::nod:: ::tu::
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QTCut5 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:31 am Well boys & girls, I'm sure you'll all be happy to know that The Monkey finally tracked down and captured the elusive Red Scroll 5207...which may very well prove to be the final feather in my Mini-T cap. It's been a good run and I've had a lot of fun, but it looks like it all comes down to this...game, set & match. :)
Good on you buddy but don't worry ~Q~, there will be more coming along to fatten up the herd. :mrgreen:
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That's a great looking red scroll 5207 but is it really the last Mini-T you need? I think not. For one thing you've suffered too long without an 8507 with pear and a Wharncliff blade. I guess the fat ones are more to my taste than yours. Do you have all the other varieties of Case's stag, prime, vintage, red, midnight? During the 1980s Case dyed stag green, purple blue and orange. I do not know which they used on Mini-Ts. I have other Case patterns with vintage stag and no left end bolsters, bald head knives. It's likely they made Mini-Ts that way. Maybe you've got them all?

By the way, I enjoyed looking at your 5507 and rattlesnake 6307 a while ago. They nice ones!
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Modern Slip Joints wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:21 pm That's a great looking red scroll 5207 but is it really the last Mini-T you need? I think not. For one thing you've suffered too long without an 8507 with pear and a Wharncliff blade. I guess the fat ones are more to my taste than yours. Do you have all the other varieties of Case's stag, prime, vintage, red, midnight? During the 1980s Case dyed stag green, purple blue and orange. I do not know which they used on Mini-Ts. I have other Case patterns with vintage stag and no left end bolsters, bald head knives. It's likely they made Mini-Ts that way. Maybe you've got them all?
I wouldn't mind getting an 8507 mainly because, unlike the 5507 and 6507, the MOP version is the only one that includes a Wharncliffe blade; but, I just can't bring myself to pay the outrageous asking prices every seller seems to think it's worth. My 5507 cost $140, which is more than I wanted to pay but still $60-$90 less than any others I've ever seen for sale on eBay. To be perfectly honest, the "relatively low price" compared to every other _507 I have ever seen--especially in Stag--is really the only reason I decided to get it. But, once I got it I discovered that...

...despite its ungainly heft & girth, it actually makes a very nice display knife; I like looking at the blades all fanned out. ::nod::
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The only other 07 I keep out on display is this Smooth Natural Bone 6207 etched with all the early Case tang stamps (later years' tang stamps are shown on the display stand faceplate)
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I believe I have nearly all the Case Stag 07s...here are a few you may remember from an earlier discussion (I've added a couple more since then such as the blue and red scroll and two or three others).
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I used to have a V5207 but, like pretty much every Vintage Stag Case knife I've ever seen (regardless of pattern), I really didn't like the stag covers so I sold it. If/When I see a V5207 with decent looking stag, I expect I will probably get it...so, I suppose there's always that (remote) possibility of adding one more Case 07 to my pile. (BTW--I'm now focusing on adding more Queen / Schatt & Morgan 51s to Mini-T mountain...I'm not finished collecting Mini Trappers altogether...just Case 07s...and only until Case releases more 07Ws, naturally.)

To the best of my knowledge, Case has only ever released one version of a bare head (bald head) Mini Trapper: the 1997 CCC Jr. Member 61007 (yes, with two "0"s) in Green Jigged Bone...and I do happen to have one of them, too.
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I used to have two but OCD Monkey made me get rid of the one that was missing the pattern number tang stamp because it was driving him crazy. :-? ::cb:: ::disgust:: :evil:
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As for the dyed stag...I have a Midnight Stag 5207...
2017 5207 Midnight Stag.JPG

...and a Red Stag R5207...
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...but I have never seen any Stag 07s dyed any other colors. I used to have a blue stag and a green stag mini copperhead (62109)...but both were sold when I switched to collecting 07s. I've never seen purple or orange stag (on any pattern).
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I would have more _507s if I liked the selection of blades better. Only the pearl one has a good selection of blades and, like you wrote, sellers don't give them away. I have about $80 tied up in a M5507 user. The ebay seller described it as like new. As received its master clip blade was bent so bad I had to flex it back toward its blade well before it could be closed. After bending, sanding and polishing I have a M5507 that is worth what I paid. The seller had minimal feedback and lousy pictures. I did carry it for awhile in a Swill Army Knife pouch and got to like it. I used the little clip blade more than I thought I would.

I've only seen a few auctions for knives with stag Case dyed purple and orange. They were 1980s 5254 standard Trappers.

Nice looking Founder's Barlow. I like the 43 pattern and it gives you a sizable chunk of stag to admire.
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QTCut5 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:31 am Well boys & girls, I'm sure you'll all be happy to know that The Monkey finally tracked down and captured the elusive Red Scroll 5207...which may very well prove to be the final feather in my Mini-T cap. It's been a good run and I've had a lot of fun, but it looks like it all comes down to this...game, set & match. :)
jerryd6818 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:34 pm
Good on you buddy but don't worry ~Q~, there will be more coming along to fatten up the herd. :mrgreen:
Congrats "Q". It's always a good feeling to find something you've been searching for a long time. I am sure OCD Monkey is very Happy and possibly even sedate at the moment. But I have to agree with Jerry, I am sure something either new, or we didn't know existed always has a possibility of popping up.
Congrats again Buddy!! ::tu:: ::tu::
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MAHALO jerryd, Floyd, John (jmh58), John (Lansky1), Smitty, Tom (TPK), Philip and Modern Slip Joints...you guys have all been great supporters of/contributors to this 07 thread which I greatly appreciate. I hope the others--members & 'lurkers' alike--who read the "Ode" have found it to be mildly interesting, perhaps even somewhat informative or at least slightly entertaining whether or not they chose to make comments or add photos of their own 07s. (The Monkey is so vain he would've posted photos and commentary even if absolutely no one else bothered to read it.) ::nod::
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QTCut5 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 am [ (The Monkey is so vain he would've posted photos and commentary even if absolutely no one else bothered to read it.) ::nod::

Q, I'm afraid the monkey has other family members all gainfully employed. ::dang:: ::dang:: ::facepalm::
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There are brands of Mini-Ts that I do not recall you posting about. My first Mini-T was a smooth bone Parker or Parker Edwards. On the other end of the spectrum there must be an equivalent stag GEC Northfield. More Mini-Ts await your discovery.
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Modern Slip Joints wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:03 am There are brands of Mini-Ts that I do not recall you posting about...More Mini-Ts await your discovery.
Most of my OTC (Other Than Case) Mini Trappers are posted in this thread:

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...and you're right: there are Mini-Ts awaiting discovery / acquisition...but probably not too many more Case 07s for me.

Although, I just remembered that there are a couple more 6107Ws on my list that I still want to get, so....
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Great group Q, wow.


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Ivoryman wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:34 am A '65-69 classic red bone
Classy and in excellent shape, too. I'm gonna have to get me a 07 sooner or later.
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Ivoryman wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:34 am Great group Q, wow.


A '65-69 classic red bone
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Ivoryman wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:34 am Great group Q, wow.
A '65-69 classic red bone
Mahalo, Ivoryman. As you well know, I have an insatiable appetite and unquenchable craving for two particular handle materials: ivory (of course) and gnarly stag; no matter how much I have of either, The Monkey will always want more. ::nod::

As much as I love the _107W and _207W Wharncliffe Mini-Ts, the USA era (1965-69) Redbone 6207 will always hold a special place in my Mini-T obsessed heart since it is, after all, my "birth year knife" (1965).

I'll admit, it took me a long time to warm up to the vintage 07s because, much like jerryd, I was too afraid of being duped as a result of my natural (primate) enthusiasm and trusting nature combined with my inexperience and inability to identify the fakes/counterfeits from the genuine articles (and, let's face it, there are some VERY convincing fakes out there). And while I do not and, in all honesty, can not claim to be an expert, after years of study, observation and also some costly/embarrassing trials & errors in the school of hard knocks :oops: , I do feel somewhat more confident in my ability to recognize and identify certain requisite characteristics and distinctions which allows me to make well-informed decisions with regard to (a very narrow segment of) vintage Case 6207s...mostly the XX era and USA era. Tested era knives are still a challenge for me mainly because there are fewer examples available for study and the cost of the ones that are available are generally exorbitant and therefore prohibitive on my paltry budget. (If anyone thinks GECs are expensive, try purchasing nearly any pattern of a pristine Case Tested Era knife...if you can even find one!)
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QTCut5 wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:05 am
Ivoryman wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:34 am Great group Q, wow.
A '65-69 classic red bone
Mahalo, Ivoryman. As you well know, I have an insatiable appetite and unquenchable craving for two particular handle materials: ivory (of course) and gnarly stag; no matter how much I have of either, The Monkey will always want more. ::nod::

As much as I love the _107W and _207W Wharncliffe Mini-Ts, the USA era (1965-69) Redbone 6207 will always hold a special place in my Mini-T obsessed heart since it is, after all, my "birth year knife" (1965).

I'll admit, it took me a long time to warm up to the vintage 07s because, much like jerryd, I was too afraid of being duped as a result of my natural (primate) enthusiasm and trusting nature combined with my inexperience and inability to identify the fakes/counterfeits from the genuine articles (and, let's face it, there are some VERY convincing fakes out there). And while I do not and, in all honesty, can not claim to be an expert, after years of study, observation and also some costly/embarrassing trials & errors in the school of hard knocks :oops: , I do feel somewhat more confident in my ability to recognize and identify certain requisite characteristics and distinctions which allows me to make well-informed decisions with regard to (a very narrow segment of) vintage Case 6207s...mostly the XX era and USA era. Tested era knives are still a challenge for me mainly because there are fewer examples available for study and the cost of the ones that are available are generally exorbitant and therefore prohibitive on my paltry budget. (If anyone thinks GECs are expensive, try purchasing nearly any pattern of a pristine Case Tested Era knife...if you can even find one!)

Mahalo back, and agreed. Seems to me like nobody's making it like the old Case red bone. Sixties had some great bone, as did all the eras before the 80's. And right there with you on price. I watch old Case knives and stuff that used to go for under a hundred and in my price range, and now they are going for twice that. I think GEC ignited a fire of new interest, fans, and appreciation, not to mention new collectors of Traditional pocket knives and now there are more people buying up the dwindling supply of old knives not being made anymore. Just like older GECs not being made anymore. They both are all going through the roof. Growing demand for a shrinking supply. Keep yours coming, loving the show to surf through.
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Ivoryman wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:34 pm Seems to me like nobody's making it like the old Case red bone. Sixties had some great bone, as did all the eras before the 80's.
Those two statements made me sit up and take notice. Why might that be? I could guess some combination of better quality bone, different make-up of the dyes, or the aging process. Does anything else play a role?

I'll be adding a Trapper soon, pattern 6254...
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Dan In MI wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:05 pm
Ivoryman wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:34 pm Seems to me like nobody's making it like the old Case red bone. Sixties had some great bone, as did all the eras before the 80's.
Those two statements made me sit up and take notice. Why might that be? I could guess some combination of better quality bone, different make-up of the dyes, or the aging process. Does anything else play a role?

I'll be adding a Trapper soon, pattern 6254...
I can't imagine and haven't heard a good answer yet to that one. We know they had the dye recopies and methods of applying it. And why don't they jig bone like they did? I have no idea, but it changed in the late seventies and even their top of the line current Tony Bose knives don't have the red bone like so many Case knives had in the seventies or older. And the jigging nowadays is different and not as good. The scalloped deep and varied, the peach seed, it's not as good. I can look at it all day long, never get tired. The new Case red bone knives bore me in minutes. NOTHING like the old Case colors.
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