What generation is this bulldog?
What generation is this bulldog?
Hi guys, can anybody tell me what generation is this Bulldog congress?
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Re: What generation is this bulldog?
Closed length? Close up of the tang stamps? It’s not a 1st generation due to the European Stag.
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Re: What generation is this bulldog?
Thanks Tom,
Closed length is 3 7/8 in, and here some more photos:
Closed length is 3 7/8 in, and here some more photos:
olderdogs1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:54 pm Closed length? Close up of the tang stamps? It’s not a 1st generation due to the European Stag.
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Re: What generation is this bulldog?
This is one of the knives Jim Parker had made around 2000. Same blades as the 1st generation knives but the European Stag is the difference. The 1st generation knives had Sambar stag. Good quality knives for sure and Parker sold them as 1st generation but they weren’t. Wasn’t a well kept secret by any means. Not meaning to run down Jim Parker, he contributed to the knife trade immensely in my opinion.
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Re: What generation is this bulldog?
Thanks Tom for the info.
What's difference between Sambar and European Stag?
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Alfa
What's difference between Sambar and European Stag?
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Alfa
olderdogs1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:55 pm This is one of the knives Jim Parker had made around 2000. Same blades as the 1st generation knives but the European Stag is the difference. The 1st generation knives had Sambar stag. Good quality knives for sure and Parker sold them as 1st generation but they weren’t. Wasn’t a well kept secret by any means. Not meaning to run down Jim Parker, he contributed to the knife trade immensely in my opinion.
Tom
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Re: What generation is this bulldog?
European stag comes from deer native to Europe. Sambar stag comes from the Sambar deer which are native to Asia. As typically used on knives the antler (stag) from those different species have very different appearances. European stag is generally brown and white tones, like your knife has. Sambar typically has brown and gold.
Both types can have different coloring depending on how the manufacturer treats them (dyes, heat, etc). You can find hundreds of pictures of Sambar stag knives by using the search function here on AAPK (found under Quicklinks on the upper left of this page).
Ken
Both types can have different coloring depending on how the manufacturer treats them (dyes, heat, etc). You can find hundreds of pictures of Sambar stag knives by using the search function here on AAPK (found under Quicklinks on the upper left of this page).
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Re: What generation is this bulldog?
Thanks Ken, I appreciate it
Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:44 am European stag comes from deer native to Europe. Sambar stag comes from the Sambar deer which are native to Asia. The antler from those different species have very different appearance. European stag is generally brown and white tones, like your knife has. Sambar typically has brown and gold. You can find hundreds of pictures of Sambar stag knives by using the search function here on AAPK (found under Quicklinks on the upper left of this page).
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Re: What generation is this bulldog?
What Ken said!!
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Re: What generation is this bulldog?
Here’s another example of European stag I found in a post. Look for it on knives from European makers.
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Re: What generation is this bulldog?
Can the O.P. knife be placed in any of the generations? Maybe the 3rd or 4th generation? If not how would it be classified? jwwood
Re: What generation is this bulldog?
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I've read the comments and respect them because I'm no expert but what I have deduced makes me believe that it is a 1st generation knife, specifically BKC#73. It's the only one from the 1982 Tobacco sets that had a bar shield along with a Pit Bulls Trmk etch. Out of the 2nd gen group of knives, the only 3-7/8" 4bld round bolstered Congress listed is #278 & 279, but they're both Tennessee Walking horses with Heart shields. In the 3rd gen., the high carbon blades were marked 1993-1995 or Surgical Inst. if they were stainless (681-704), this same generation had a "Series II" but they had two small square point blades instead of one square point and one pen blade. The discontinued stamp was utilized every 3yrs. after its retirement at the end of '95 transitioning through some in '96; used again in '98 on the 20th Anniversary knives & in 2001 the only knives that come to mind that have the discontinued stamp are the 12 & 10 blade Congress exhibition knives, in '04 they either had 25 YEARS on their bar shield or 2004 on a tang.
Re: What generation is this bulldog?
Thanks Loose!
Appreciate it.
Regards,
Alfa
Appreciate it.
Regards,
Alfa
Loose Arrow wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:15 pmHello
I've read the comments and respect them because I'm no expert but what I have deduced makes me believe that it is a 1st generation knife, specifically BKC#73. It's the only one from the 1982 Tobacco sets that had a bar shield along with a Pit Bulls Trmk etch. Out of the 2nd gen group of knives, the only 3-7/8" 4bld round bolstered Congress listed is #278 & 279, but they're both Tennessee Walking horses with Heart shields. In the 3rd gen., the high carbon blades were marked 1993-1995 or Surgical Inst. if they were stainless (681-704), this same generation had a "Series II" but they had two small square point blades instead of one square point and one pen blade. The discontinued stamp was utilized every 3yrs. after its retirement at the end of '95 transitioning through some in '96; used again in '98 on the 20th Anniversary knives & in 2001 the only knives that come to mind that have the discontinued stamp are the 12 & 10 blade Congress exhibition knives, in '04 they either had 25 YEARS on their bar shield or 2004 on a tang.