What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Whether we like them or loath them, Chinese manufactured knives have found their way into collections of all sorts across the entire globe. The intent of this forum is to offer a place where AAPK members can discuss the knives and not the politics.
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by Captain O » Sun May 19, 2019 10:50 pm

cudgee wrote:Good morning, hope everyone has a good week. Regarding RR knives, we have a very limited supply and access to traditional pocket knives over here in Australia, that is why i am so envious of you guys, when i look at some of the American websites and your retail outlets, i would be a kid in a toy shop over there.I was looking at RR knives for a while and reading about them on this forum, so bit the bullet and purchased 2. I must say i was very surprised at there Finish and Quality, both excellent. How long they hold up for only time will tell, but if they are used not for really heavy work i think they will last a long time. Like your car, if you service it and don't thrash the hell out it and generally look after it, they will serve you well. I also have a Buck canoe made in China, an excellent knife, and an A.G.Russell rancher made in China, a really well made knife that holds it's edge. I am waiting for a Marbles ram horn stockman just to see what it's quality is like. So in my limited experience Chinese made knives are of excellent quality and finish. As i said we have very limited access to pocket knives over here, and buying American or English made knives is prohibitive when it comes to cost, because of postage and then the conversion rate of the Australian dollar. I recently bought a case which cost me $120 Aus., compared to an RR, $30Aus. I also purchased an Idahone V ceramic sharpener, which is $40US, but cost me $95Aus. So i will purchase any knife that i like and have reviewed online if the cost is okay. :D
You should be here. If you were in Oregon, you would be enjoying the daylights out of the automatic knives that are both legal and usable. There are some fantastic working autos that would have you giggling like a schoolboy in a candy shop.

I just nailed an Armando Beltrame 9" Honey Horn, flat-grind automatic with an ATS-34 steel blade. It makes an outstanding pocket knife for EDC. Quick, tight, and holds a razor edge. $106.00 USD.

I paid $18.36 USD for a Chinese Ganzo clip-point auto Model 719. 440C steel and holds an outstanding edge. It is a marvelous, useable tool in the first degree.

So cool. 8)
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by cudgee » Sun May 19, 2019 10:55 pm

Thanks for that mate. You don't have to rub it in. Only joking. Buying knives over here can be difficult, we just do not have the retailers or the selection, especially in the state where i live. ::tu::

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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by Captain O » Mon May 20, 2019 12:18 am

cudgee wrote:Thanks for that mate. You don't have to rub it in. Only joking. Buying knives over here can be difficult, we just do not have the retailers or the selection, especially in the state where i live. ::tu::
Good news: You can buy a "frog sticker" (RR made) for a paltry $12.95 USD and it holds a decent edge for 440A. The tip on this "fruit knife" is more of a tapered stiletto rather than a rounded drop point knife. It is so slender that it virtually disappears into a jacket pocket. It still opens quickly and can be called upon to peel/bisect any "fruit" you happen to encounter regardless of its size.
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by cudgee » Mon May 20, 2019 1:11 am

Would not get through customs. Thanks for the tip though. ::td::

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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by Captain O » Mon May 20, 2019 1:36 am

Imperial makes a "Melon Tester" in their China factory with a 7cr17Mov Stainless Steel blade in two separate sizes (7" and 10,5". I have both). These have the rounded tip yet are fully functional in the kitchen and in the field for fruit inspection. They're on Amazon and eBay all the time.

Imperial SS105 4.7" blade:

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I'm almost certain that they aren't prohibited.
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by RalphAlsip » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:55 pm

This is my first made in China knife. It seems well-made and was not inexpensive ($99) compared to comparable new knives from Case for example. I bought it because I wanted an AG Russell knife as a remembrance for what he meant to knives and the knife industry. I appreciate the thoughtfulness Mr. Russell incorporated in his knife designs. For example, the bolster on the pivot end of this little knife covers the rough edges of the tang. This is a carry knife for me - not a collectible. The carbon fiber looks nice and is lightweight, but I don't care for the way it feels. It has a little texture, yet feels slick/slippery.
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by Steve Warden » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:13 pm

Not a bad looking knife.
On the beefy side - I like that.
As for the slick/slippery feel, toss it in you pocket with your keys and that should solve the problem.
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by cudgee » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:15 pm

Good purchase, you ::tu:: will be happy with it. I have a A.G.Russell made in China, an excellent knife.

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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by Tater » Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:59 am

If you have to ask, there’s no point in trying to tell you, just enjoy watcha got

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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by kootenay joe » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:37 am

I think that is the AGR "Vest Pocket Skinner" with blade design by R.W. Loveless. The blade is 2 1/2" which is long for a frame of 3 1/8". Usually blade length is about 1" less than frame length. With the 62 Rc of the S35VN steel it should edge hold for a few years of regular use.
I think it would look better with some highly polished hardwood handles like Desert Ironwood, but overall it is a top notch knife as far as design goes and i bet in the fit and finish as well.
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by TwoFlowersLuggage » Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:09 pm

I am always drawn to what I call "modern traditional" knives - meaning fairly traditional patterns with modern materials like carbon fiber & stainless steel frames. I think they are very classy knives.
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by dlr110 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:13 pm

Don’t everyone jump on me at once, but here’s my opinion which I know is not held by everyone else.

Like anything else if the quality of materials and workmanship is good then there is nothing wrong with Made in China, Japan, or even Outer Mongolia. Ponder, TX is the small country town I live in and I buy here anytime I can in order to support our merchants and our local economy. Ironically, it’s estimated that over 60% of the products I buy locally are produced outside of U.S. borders.

Unlike many other folks I’m not using the knives I buy for everyday work or resale in a business, they go straight into my collection. My collection is not based on knives solely made in America, As a collector I want diversity in my knives, of all types and from all around the world. Now would I like all the best knives made to be from the USA, of course I would, but the fact is the USA hasn't cornered the market on “quality made.” We have made some junk products too.

I’m all for American jobs and the “Made in the USA” label, but the products have to be of good quality; what I need; and friendly to my bank account. I will buy USA when I can, but if I can’t I’ll go elsewhere. Now to answer the question, there is nothing inherently wrong with the knives made in China anymore or less than knives made around the globe. There are good knives and there are bad knives everywhere you look, just know what you want and what you're buying first.

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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by TwoFlowersLuggage » Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:56 pm

This world is a very small planet and getting smaller all the time.
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by Steve Warden » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:34 pm

Just curious, but is there a law stating that if a product is labeled MADE IN THE USA, all parts of said product must have been made and then assembled in the USA. Or just a majority of the parts?

If there is no law...

::stir::

Sorry, truly curious, as I said.
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Re: What's wrong with the knives made in China?

Post by Mumbleypeg » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:57 pm

Steve Warden wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:34 pm
Just curious, but is there a law stating that if a product is labeled MADE IN THE USA, all parts of said product must have been made and then assembled in the USA. Or just a majority of the parts?

If there is no law...

::stir::

Sorry, truly curious, as I said.
There are laws. They’re complicated. Some of it depends on the product. For example there are separate unique regulations for automobiles, food products, etc. Every company that manufactures products, imports or exports products employs or retains experts (and lawyers) to attempt staying in compliance with whatever laws apply to their products. You can research on line but good luck understanding it. :lol:

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