NO MORE POLITICS !

Whether we like them or loath them, Chinese manufactured knives have found their way into collections of all sorts across the entire globe. The intent of this forum is to offer a place where AAPK members can discuss the knives and not the politics.
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NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby philco » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:10 pm

"Chinese Factory Manufactured Knives
Whether we like them or loath them, Chinese manufactured knives have found their way into collections of all sorts across the entire globe. The intent of this forum is to offer a place where AAPK members can discuss the knives and not the politics."

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Bryan created this forum to provide a place where members could discuss Chinese made cutlery without the hassle of the continual political discussion that some members seem to think they must interject into every thread that mentions Chinese cutlery.
The other moderators and I have become somewhat lax in that we have allowed the same little band of "political activist" to invade what is supposed to be a politics free zone with their rants.

I want to give fair warning here and now that from this point forward the NO POLITICS rule will be strictly enforced. If you can't resist launching a political rant then be prepared to spend your time elsewhere because you won't be spending it here any longer.

One of the things that sets AAPK apart from many other online websites it the way members interact RESPECTFULLY toward one another. I fully realize that the influx of Chinese made cutlery into the U.S. marketplace is an emotional issue for some and perhaps many of our members. That does not, however, entitle anyone to continually harass those who wish to discuss knives made in China or anywhere else.

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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby ironmage » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:59 pm

We all thank you Sr.I now fill more free in posting on this thread.I think you all do a wonderful job on moderating this forum.You all at AAPK git a big hand clap from Ohio.
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby wishful » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:12 pm

Phil, I totally agree with your stance on name-calling and berating fellow AAPK members. However, I don't quite understand why we can't discuss politics. Every other subject under the sun is discussed in these forums, with knife discussions making up only a small portion of the forums. I am a Christian, but many times I have seen someone in here insinuate that if one is not a Christian, then they are not worthy. Why are those types of posts allowed? If we can't discuss politics, why are we allowed to discuss religion, the nation's problems, Obama, etc, etc. I am not trying to be controversial, but merely asking a question.
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby Classic Case » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:40 pm

I believe he is talking about politics in this forum. Go to the off topic forums to vent is the way I take it.
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby ironmage » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:46 pm

Classic Case wrote:I believe he is talking about politics in this forum. Go to the off topic forums to vent is the way I take it.

That is what he said.Just go to the right thread for the right topic.That is the way it should be.He did not say you cant rant just do it on the right thread.lol
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby ironmage » Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:16 pm

wishful wrote:Phil, I totally agree with your stance on name-calling and berating fellow AAPK members. However, I don't quite understand why we can't discuss politics. Every other subject under the sun is discussed in these forums, with knife discussions making up only a small portion of the forums. I am a Christian, but many times I have seen someone in here insinuate that if one is not a Christian, then they are not worthy. Why are those types of posts allowed? If we can't discuss politics, why are we allowed to discuss religion, the nation's problems, Obama, etc, etc. I am not trying to be controversial, but merely asking a question.

I missed something.Win did name-calling come in to play?
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby philco » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:23 am

Wishful and others, if you will read the preamble that is posted for this particular forum you will see that Bryan created it as a place where Chinese cutlery could be discussed WITHOUT POLITICS coming into the mix. The forum was created in an attempt to allow those who wish to discuss Chinese made cutlery to have a place to do so without being belittled, harassesd or made into some sort of political scapegoat.

I've tried to grant a little latitude in this area for the sake of open discussion but it's clear to me that more stringent enforcement of this restriction is needed since some of our members don't seem to be willing to leave it alone otherwise.

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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby jmh58 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:41 pm

Hey Phil... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ::nod:: ::nod:: John :D
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby jerryd6818 » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:24 pm

It's very simple. AAPK is provided free of cost by a very generous host, a place where we can cuss and discuss knives and sometimes other things. Our host wishes it to be this way (and I do not disagree with him) so my opinion is his wishes should be respected. If anyone doesn't want to do that, in this great country with some freedoms left, you are welcome to find another place to vent your spleen. I don't mean leave AAPK. I'm simply suggesting we can have the political type discussions in the Off Topic Forum as our host wishes or on another web site but not in the China Knife forum where he has asked very nicely that we not discuss the political aspects of Chinese knives.

Just as we have different rooms in our house for specific activities, so do we here. It may be a crude analogy but there are certain things you do only in the bathroom.

Don't sound hard to me.

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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby gino » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:39 pm

Phil, PM sent
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby Colonel26 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:08 am

I know I'm a new guy here, but it sounds fair enough to me. I like everyone else have some strong political views about china, although I do own a china knife or two that we're given to me. It is nice to have a place where we can discuss the merits of the knife in question without having to defend our patriotism.

Off topic is the place to discuss off topic stuff, this is the place for chicom knives. Sounds simple enough to me.

Thanks mods for a great forum. Keep up the good work!
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby AREMINGTONSEDGE » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:39 am

Phil, due to a busy lifestyle I have missed reading posts and sending posts for a couple of weeks. When I had the opportunity to log in to my favorite site, I almost fell out of my chair after reading the varied post on this thread. As you know I'm ex-military, love my country, gave blood, sweat and tears to serve and defend her. I was so concerned about the new members to our site and if they felt cornered, berated or would develop a negative impression of AAPK as though we did not promote, support and encourage freedom of speech, ideas and individualism. The new members today will carry this site's goals and visions that Bryan and others wish to convey in knife collecting as well as passing the legacy of knifing history to the new members in our future. I believe in this site, it's wonderful rich history and in the important resource of it's members. We can agree to disagree agreeably about our passion and beliefs but if we deny others their freedoms of expression, we become no better than those whom we despise who surpress the freedoms and liberties of their fellow countrymen. I agree that we should be able to express our ideas and thoughts on politics and other areas of intrest but do so in an appropriate forum and without causing others to feel defensive in their personal views. Finally, I also would like to learn about knives from various cultures and that would include China.- Rocky ::handshake::
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby lxplumm » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:07 am

While I agree that we shouldn't have to listen to people telling us who are enemies are, it's OK to express a chauvinistic preference for knives made in America, right?

Otherwise we will probably be disenfranchising a majority of the people who post on this website.
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby wazu013 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:31 am

I agree with the administration and Jerry ::tu:: Here's an interesting mix. RR knives with elephant ivory handles. It's old and might be out of date. I just thought it was a cool way to get an EDC ivory.
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Re: NO MORE POLITICS !

Postby sharalds » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:28 pm

I agree with the administration and Jerry Here's an interesting mix. RR knives with elephant ivory handles. It's old and might be out of date. I just thought it was a cool way to get an EDC ivory.


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