The 'stories' section

This forum is to share stories that are meaningful, or entertaining. The posts can be original stories, stories passed down in a family or a region, they could be based on a person's experience, childhood, or basically on anything. They could even be fictional, or humorous, so long as they are stories.
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Re: The 'stories' section

Postby FRJ » Thu May 10, 2018 3:38 am

Oh man, that's a beauty Keith. ::tu:: .... I've never seen one like that.
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Re: The 'stories' section

Postby espn77 » Thu May 10, 2018 9:54 am

FRJ wrote:Oh man, that's a beauty Keith. ::tu:: .... I've never seen one like that.

Thanks Joe,

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Re: The 'stories' section

Postby Steve Warden » Thu May 10, 2018 12:19 pm

Well played Keith!
Take care and God bless,

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Re: The 'stories' section

Postby Winnipeg Gentleman » Fri May 11, 2018 1:47 pm

Tongueriver:

You can easily make that argument when it comes to public discussions, or even private conversations. However, when a writer wishes to reflect society in a realistic way and have realistic, believable characters, adult language is often not only desirable, but actually necessary. Real people in real society do not always speak like educated royalty. And if a writer wishes to reflect the criminal element, for example, in a realistic way, then he must have his characters not only act, but also sound, as realistic as possible or else it simply rings false.

An example of the opposite are the old gangster movies of the 30s, the 'You dirty rat!' era. Watch some of those old movies and listen to how the criminals speak, it sounds not only ridiculous, but utterly unrealistic. The writers of that era were heavily bound by the conventions of the time, and that included rampant censorship. No real gangsters of that or any other era truly spoke in those 'dirty rat' ways, but the writers simply could not portray them in a realistic fashion.

If you do not like harsh language for whatever reason, then that's perfectly fine. However, when it comes to writing realistic dramas, adult language and content is not 'low-brow' or an indication of 'poor breeding' at all, it is simply an accurate and realistic reflection of whichever microcosm of society the writer is focusing on at the time.

Lastly, I do not wish to now get into a long discussion about different forms of writing or the merits of adult language in the various genres, this is a knife site after all, so I will not be replying further on this topic.

Jerryd:

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Re: The 'stories' section

Postby FRJ » Fri May 11, 2018 2:11 pm

Adults know perfectly well how a gangster might speak, which wouldn't be particularly entertaining.
Folks were looking for entertainment in seeking out those movies. And it was much more enjoyable with the dialog that was used.
The coarse language simply wasn't necessary.
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Re: The 'stories' section

Postby Edgewise » Fri May 11, 2018 4:30 pm

espn77 wrote:Felt like this topic could use a picture of a knife. ......

:lol: :lol: :lol: They just keep popping up all over the place, don't they?
Re bad language, I'm just wondering how Joan of Arc managed to stop the french army from cursing, or maybe back in the 15th century bad language hadn't evolved like it has today. :shock:

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Re: The 'stories' section

Postby djknife13 » Fri May 11, 2018 7:16 pm

Jerry, it's all too true what you are saying about the state of our society, and it's vulgarity. To me it's just a sad state of our world, and writers of fiction and TV and movie writers not only try to mimic real life, but the try to sensationalize it for ratings and to sell a book. That keeps taking us to lower and lower standards of behavior. We should be examples to our young to be better, nicer, and more decent people instead of constantly telling them that everyone is depraved and that violence and foul coarse talk is normal. It isn't in my family and I hate that my grandkids are being fed that every day from more and more sources like their smart phones, computers and TV. If it were allowed on this knife site, I wouldn't be here.____Dave

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Re: The 'stories' section

Postby stagman » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:37 pm

I just saw this post and it really struck a nerve deep in my soul, especially tongueriver's comment bad language
being a. ..marker of low breeding.. and the topper of em all.....never known a time you needed bad language to make a point....
My wife Pam died this past january, just 10 months ago,, we were together 50 years & 1 month to the day
Christmas eve morning after 2 days of being in a coma and now shaking really bad, she was sent to the ICU....
she had Lupus, Fibromyalgia, and spine issues..she had been seeing the same Rheumatologist for 13 years in Ann Arbor, Mich.
She was on a hefty dose of pain meds which gave her several years to have some what of a normal life..
In ICU the doc that took over her case would not listen to anything I told him...I was trying to play nice using proper english language...
Told him she had not eaten in several days, and they would not give he any pain meds because of a lower blood pressure...
I told him she "needs" her pain meds and some nutrition...he responded: Oh, so you are a doctor huh, I said no, then he said or maybe you
are a nutritonist...I told him 2 times over the years, once at doc's office and once at St Joes in the ER her BP was low, they took away
the severe pain and BP came right back up...he then told me ...I will put a feeding tube down her throat right now and I will make it very
uncomfortable for her to and NO pain meds...I lost it !!! I backed him up against the wall, told him he was fired,, then followed him down the hall
all the while using 100's of profanity laced words...last thing I said was if I catch you in my wife's room I will treat you like someone that
broke into our house and means my wife harm !!! Well security was called, but so was the asst.adm. 2nd in command at the hospital who a week prior
had come up to me by chance as I was standing outside my wife's room crying...she hugged me, was back in 1/2 hour with flowers for Pam,
her name was Shelly, a real sweetheart...when she with a new doc and security arrived, I told her what had transpired..the new doc ordered a small
1 mg morphine push....BP started up..gave 3 mg more and it really started to move..5 minutes later ordered 4 mg more morphine....
All the shakes quit...BP - 122/70..Pam came out of the coma and was 80% alert at least.....
By using profanity to....make a point....it gave me 13 more days with her before she died...9 good days alert and talking, last 4 in a coma...but....
she was given morphine every 4 hours on the hour, last 1 1/2 days an increased dose.
And tho she lived a painfull life, because of my actions, she did not die in pain. Profanity has its place, especially when you are watching the love of your
life since you were 15 years old lay there and die....if you toungeriver want to just use the proper language and let a loved one suffer because you do
not want to use profanity to ..make a point.., that is your choice..I do not choose to live a Mollusk life style !!!

Will

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Re: The 'stories' section

Postby Mumbleypeg » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:15 pm

Will, I am truly sorry for your loss, and can only imagine what it would be like to lose my wife.

Having said that, I think you and Cal both have valid, but different points. I agree with you that there is sometimes a time and place for profanity. Your situation was extreme. But I also agree with Cal as I think his point is that too often profanity is used as casual everyday speech, in the wrong place and time.

My wife and I were recently standing in line at a self-service buffet eatery. The line was long. Two guys, probably in their late 20s, came in and joined the line directly behind us and were talking to each other. Not overly loud but loud enough for us and others around them to easily overhear their profanity-laced conversation. Every fourth or fifth word was f... Or a dirivitave. After about a minute when it was obvious this language was not going to stop, I asked them politely to watch their language due to all the women present. One of them curtly told me I should MYOB, but the other guy quietly told him to cool it, and apologized. Nothing more was said about it, we got our food and sat down to eat, as did they in another part of the establishment. While we were eating a couple approached our table and thanked me for speaking up.

The topic of this thread was started by someone wanting to write stories containing profanity, to be posted here on AAPK. He was advised it would not be appropriate and a different place might be better. I agree. Ths is not the place, but unfortunately there are too many who don't understand the appropriate time or place. ::handshake:: And I will also say as an example, you were able to tell your experience effectively and make your point clearly without using a single one of the words you used when you were telling off that doctor. I clearly understood what happened without your repeating any of those words! ::tu::

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