Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Colonial Knife was incorporated in 1926 by three brothers; Antonio, Domenic, & Fredrick Paolantonio. It grew to become one of the largest pocket knife manufacturers in the US during the 1960s. The company shut down in 1998, but was back into production under the Colonial Cutlery International Corporation in 2001. Colonial Cutlery International, Inc. brand is the imported line of knives and tools while the U.S.A.- made products fall under the Colonial Knife brand.
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Bonfire bob » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:29 pm

Hey Phil, my new best friend!! lol..
Just so you know, it's new and never been sharpened is a sign to me and most collector's.
It's been very well polished and NEVER re-sharpened my friend.
Don't feel bad at all pal; this is a common practice amongst knife people because putting an incredible edge on a blade takes a trained eye and keen ability's...
I am guilty of this myself but it's no discrace! Some pieces are finished beautifully and trying to put a nice edge on any knife is an art in itself!!
If Colonial or Heritage were still up and running, I would invite you down to show you how it's done right, and would stand behind my wheel work, 110% !
I have a lot to say about this knife and it's origin and hate to bore people; maybe that's my lot in life..I happen to enjoy any info I can with all my friends here at AAPK....

Here is a catalogue photo of Colonial's last "Forest Master" item and keep in mind the blade configuration....
This discusion about this knife will definately involve several post's so hang in there folks....
Colonial Knife Company, Catalogue circa 1995, and the last one we ever printed...
Bob P. CFE, CKCo...
BTW,... blades and springs anyone???
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Joe Dirt » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:45 pm

Man what a pile of blades and springs, Bobby! Those are for the stockmans aren't they?

ps - I just posted a couple of pics on the bottom of the last page - you must have been typing away. I'll re-post um here
so they can be seen.

EDIT: Hey Bobby, what was the total production No.s of the Heritage knives you made? I can't find even 1 of them for sale!!

.... Joe
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby bdev » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:26 am

Here's two I received today.
I'd love more info on the 4" jack. Looks like stainless but not sure.
Is there a model number? When was it manufactured?
Thanks......Bruno
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Bonfire bob » Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:55 am

Correct Joe, medium stockmans for the most part....butt springs, double ended butt springs, master blades, spey and sheep foot blades... ::doh:: ::doh::
AND your pretty # 4120 Slim Jim....nice pics ..about early 60's for this little baby...
bdev shows two nice old Colonials.. a # 4602 with square bolster's and an ad specialty favorite, and I saw so many of these's in my days I forget the Number!! ::facepalm::

Joe, to answer your question about Heritage total production in it's 4 year existance..
With the exception of the 5 thousand for Smith and Wesson, about 4-5 thousand in multiple handle materials and private labels....Stodards in Boston, Mass. was a big buyer,
along with "Smokey Mountain Knife Works", and my old friend Kevin Pipes... ::groove::

Bob. P. CKCo., CFE..

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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Bonfire bob » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:11 am

I am going to make an offer you can't refuse...
Contact me and if you are so driven about Colonial's history, fly or train your way down to Providence, R.I., and since I am in contact with the real estate company that currently owns the property, I will get permission to go through the old factory, but with obvious security backup, because this is not the garden spot of Rhode Island...
Just so you know, the price of this property is 1 Million $$...we're not going to buy it, just walk through and video tape it....
Very strong high intensity flood lights will be needed and I will take you for a tour and a video recording of the events would be more than satisfactory......

As strange as this sounds, it's an honest offer with no bullshit involved....
Sorry to be blunt but I'm an honest man and always will be.....

Robert Anthony Paolantonio, Colonial Knife Company, CFE....
"Official Business"..

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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby PigSticker » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:26 pm

Man Bobbie you need to put some handles around some of them blades
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby knifetime » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:10 pm

That would be very cool Bobby,I just live in Ohio not to far for me to drive,lol.
Hey man look what I just bought off fleeBay,can you give me the down low on this little set. Thanks buddy,for your help.
I'm happier than a hog in slop over this one Bobster. You know how long I have been trying to git a set like this. Now if I can just find one like your papals I will be in like flint.
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Bonfire bob » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:34 pm

Slow down man!! I'm still putting the # 1200 Ferest Master pics together and they will be on the other thread! ::nod::
Here's what I have and I would like to see the tang on this set...mine has the stainless Colonial stamp on the fork; just U.S.A. on the master blade..front side blade ground only..
I need to see the tang stamp on this set...the following pics are what I have and there are many variations from yours....Sets like ths were made in the mid to late 60's..
Bob P. CKCo..Stainless and Colonial stamp are on the fork; what's on yours??? ::shrug::
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Bonfire bob » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:00 pm

Back to the Forest Master Phil...
This is my oldest known Colonial Forest Master/ Scout....
Strange, no shield, blade configuration is different, and there are lots of similarity's to your Beaver Falls FM but the lack of a center pin baffles the crap out of me!!
It's definately a Colonial skeleton but who, when, where and how are the main mysteries!
I'm going to call Beaver Falls, PA and get to the bottom of this one!! ::hmm::
Check this knife out....not only does it have .100 thousands thick blades and springs, it's got THREE .50 solid brass cut scales!! This is one of the beefeast's Colonial's I'VE EVER SEEN!! ::ds:: ::ds:: I estimate production date early to mid 50's.. ::hmm::
Bob P. CKCO...
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby knifetime » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:49 pm

It is a real cool one Bobby,I love it.
I'll git them pics of that forest master first thing tomorrow.
I don't have my hobo set in hand yet but I can tell you from the pics that all 3 are stamped stainless Evan the knife is stamped "stainless Colonial,PROV,USA" in fact it looks like all three pieces are stamped "Stainless Colonial" . It is supposed to be from the 60s.
-"...and he that cleaveth wood shall be endangered thereby If the iron be blunt,and he do not whet the edge,then must he put to more strength....Ecclesiastes 10 10!!So sharpen your knife!!

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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Bonfire bob » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:11 am

Excellent Phil!!
There's no doubt in my mind it's one of ours' !! ::tu::
When the old timer's made tools back then, they would use it a dozen different ways.
Once you have tools to blank a blade, spring to match; uniform so to speak...
A liner tool, a cut scale tool, and handles or covers to consider that would be applicable....
Thousands of $$$ before they saw dollar 1 profit.. ::smirk::
Soooo one tool was made to make many different styles and variation's...
Nice little set my friend, tuck it away.. ::hmm:: ::hmm::
Bob P.....(I think I need to write another book) ...CKCo.....

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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby knifetime » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:20 pm

Hey Bob I grabed another pic from another thread for you to look at. Look at the punch and look, no center pin. The only other Forests Master that I ever saw with no center pin.
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Bonfire bob » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:32 pm

NICE!! Ok Phil, here's the thing....many "shell" knives are made like this were as a complete skeleton of the knife was made and the shell tips are crimpt on at the ends..THAT'S
why the center pin is hidden...I bet that black FM has crimpt ends???
The questionable one's are the one's with solid bolster's..... ::hmm::
That belt punch is definately ours; that was the last style belt punch Colonial ever made...
This one I'll date early 70's.. ::nod::

How about that old baby below!!! Look at the work they put into the blade alone..nice long pull, very nice swedge on the blade front...wooden handled, IRON bolster's, this puppy is old!! Curiosly, can you even read the tang?? Love to see it... ::woot::

This should be a hint to all knife collectors...THE TANG STAMP TELLS 90% ABOUT A KNIFE'S ORIGIN!!! Try to photograph this gents; we all know how important it is!! ::tu::
Bob P. CFE..

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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Joe Dirt » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:35 pm

Here is a blister pack Forest Master and another out of the pack. It's kinda hard to see but the one still in the package
has a "stag jig" ( like in the pic above) while the other one has a "bone jig" handle. Niether have a center "rocker" pin.
The blister pack has a copyrite date of 1971... so it's no older than that. The blister packaging changed in the early '80s to
where the entire pack was enclosed in plastic.
Both are shell handle construction...

... Joe
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Re: Colonial Knife Company Collector's Forum

Postby Bonfire bob » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:48 pm

Good eye Joe, nice display also...I also have my questions about the FR above!! ::hmm::
Your spot on about the jigging of the plastic..this is another reason to be able to see the tang!! ::ds:: ::ds::
Joe, maybe we'll start another thread..."SHOW US YOUR TANG STAMP". !!!!!!!!!!!! haha...
Nice job Mr. Joe Keating, Royal Pine Cutlery!! ::tu:: ::tu::

(rocker pin, It's a center pin you redneck!! LOL!!) ::handshake:: ::handshake::


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