A couple of cigar jack cousins
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A couple of cigar jack cousins
Most of us are aware that Winchester bought out Napanoch in 1919. We can compare these two that may have been made with the same equipment.
Both measure out at 4 1/4”. Both Nap blades have nail nicks while the Winchester main blade has a long pull and a swedge grind. All 4 blades are tang stamped and have snap. The reverse of the Winchester main blade is stamped with the number 2878. The Winchester catalog l have lists that number
as a Texas Jack
The knives are in such excellent condition that I worry they might be reproductions. Your opinions would be appreciated. Thanks Steve B.
Both measure out at 4 1/4”. Both Nap blades have nail nicks while the Winchester main blade has a long pull and a swedge grind. All 4 blades are tang stamped and have snap. The reverse of the Winchester main blade is stamped with the number 2878. The Winchester catalog l have lists that number
as a Texas Jack
The knives are in such excellent condition that I worry they might be reproductions. Your opinions would be appreciated. Thanks Steve B.
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Keep your edge sharp, otherwise you just can't cut it.
Looking for Carrier Cutlery and early Robeson with Elmira tang stamps.
Re: A couple of cigar jack cousins
My opinion is they look fabulous, doesn't look like recent bone, looks old and aged, and better than new bone. Beautiful pair you have and excellent specimens of the company and era.bladebuddy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:44 pm Most of us are aware that Winchester bought out Napanoch in 1919. We can compare these two that may have been made with the same equipment.
Both measure out at 4 1/4”. Both Nap blades have nail nicks while the Winchester main blade has a long pull and a swedge grind. All 4 blades are tang stamped and have snap. The reverse of the Winchester main blade is stamped with the number 2878. The Winchester catalog l have lists that number
as a Texas Jack
The knives are in such excellent condition that I worry they might be reproductions. Your opinions would be appreciated. Thanks Steve B.
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Re: A couple of cigar jack cousins
Thank you Ivoryman for your comments. Your opinion is valued on AAPK. AND THANKS for posting all the pictures of the Oregon show.Ivoryman wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:36 amMy opinion is they look fabulous, doesn't look like recent bone, looks old and aged, and better than new bone. Beautiful pair you have and excellent specimens of the company and era.bladebuddy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:44 pm Most of us are aware that Winchester bought out Napanoch in 1919. We can compare these two that may have been made with the same equipment.
Both measure out at 4 1/4”. Both Nap blades have nail nicks while the Winchester main blade has a long pull and a swedge grind. All 4 blades are tang stamped and have snap. The reverse of the Winchester main blade is stamped with the number 2878. The Winchester catalog l have lists that number
as a Texas Jack
The knives are in such excellent condition that I worry they might be reproductions. Your opinions would be appreciated. Thanks Steve B.
Steve B.
Keep your edge sharp, otherwise you just can't cut it.
Looking for Carrier Cutlery and early Robeson with Elmira tang stamps.
Keep your edge sharp, otherwise you just can't cut it.
Looking for Carrier Cutlery and early Robeson with Elmira tang stamps.
Re: A couple of cigar jack cousins
Look good to me.
Harold
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Re: A couple of cigar jack cousins
They both look really great. For your sake, I hope they are authentic.
( I am no expert) There is such a large range of appearances of a knife
depending on how it was manufactured, stored, and used. I have bought
knifes that are only a few years old and they look like they went to hell
and back to earth several times.
Bob
( I am no expert) There is such a large range of appearances of a knife
depending on how it was manufactured, stored, and used. I have bought
knifes that are only a few years old and they look like they went to hell
and back to earth several times.
Bob
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Re: A couple of cigar jack cousins
A gorgeous duo! And there are probably some stamped "Keen Kutter" out there too. If I remember I'll look in Sellens' book tonight.
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Re: A couple of cigar jack cousins
I doubt the Napanoch is real. The shield, nail pulls, grind lines and condition of the tangs suggest it is a newer altered knife. The prominence of the end pins to include the tail bolster is not a good sign. I've seen very few Napanoch cigars and none looked anything like this knife. Could be one of the knives that was assembled from parts after the original companies demise.
What are the dark spots at the mark side master blade tang of the Winchester knife?
What are the dark spots at the mark side master blade tang of the Winchester knife?
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Re: A couple of cigar jack cousins
Looks like welded blade.btrwtr wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 2:47 pm I doubt the Napanoch is real. The shield, nail pulls, grind lines and condition of the tangs suggest it is a newer altered knife. The prominence of the end pins to include the tail bolster is not a good sign. I've seen very few Napanoch cigars and none looked anything like this knife. Could be one of the knives that was assembled from parts after the original companies demise.
What are the dark spots at the mark side master blade tang of the Winchester knife?
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