A strange knife for sure.

[Capemike]

In my father's old collection of Ulster Knife, Schrade Walden, and Schrade knives, (my grandfather, my father, and I all worked there), was a knife marked Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Co. I've researched Hibbard and know their history, and looked through page after page of their knives, but can't match this one up to anything. I'm aware that Schrade would make knives for other companies, but can't find this under Schrade either. The pics will self describe it, and yes, one side is a celluloid amber color, while the other is more the bone yellow color.
Does anyone know anything about this knife?

[tongueriver]

I might be able to look it up; can you give the closed length to the nearest 1/16 of an inch? One side cover has gone rogue.

[Capemike]

It looks like 2 13/16 closed.

[tongueriver]

I will call it a Schrade CutCo 2724, Marine pearl peanut with spear blade.

[Capemike]

It doesn't have any shield, and the blade is more of a med length pen style. The body has a slight flow to it similar to a trapper style.
If you can't find it, no one can! LOL.

I've got two more I'm list finding online. I've been searching for over two hours, and not even close. I know one is pre 1947, the other is only listed on Worthpoint, and I'm not paying to see what it sold for.

[tongueriver]

That "medium pen blade" you describe is the slender spear blade; the catalog cut which I enclosed is correct. The absence of the shield is irrelevant. Read the variations in that catalog cut. The exact variation is not listed but it is the same knife as the spear/bone variation but with celluloid.

[Capemike]

Ok, I'll go back and check it out.
I didn't think you would send bad info, I've been told you know your stuff.
Thanks

BTW
I don't have it infront of me, but I've got this piece that is probably the oldest one I've ever seen.
It's a tie clip knife and sizzor combo. But the sizzors are long and covered by a metal sheath. Oh he'll, let me take a pic of it. I can't make out the letters on the front, I'll have to play with that later. The sizzors are broken, and I can't find markings on the tang.
Ever seen one like this before?

[btrwtr]

The OP knife is a dog leg peanut type pattern and not the standard serpentine peanut shape as shown in the catalog cut. Ulster Knife company could be the maker.

[tongueriver]

Oh, see; the serpentine curve is opposite. Thanks!

[ea42]

I do believe the original OP knife posted was a pre 1940 Ulster made knife. Not sure what the celluloid model number was but the bone Ulster version was 2763. Here's a catalog pic from the 1920s or 30s. The knife is the second down on the right.

By the way the reason your handles are different colors is due to the celluloid on the pile side outgassing. That process usually turns the celluloid a brittle mottled brown. You might want to have those covers replaced as the process will eventually destroy the knife. Don't keep it near other knives as it will affect the steel on those as well.

Eric

[tongueriver]

By the way the reason your handles are different colors is due to the celluloid on the pile side outgassing. That process usually turns the celluloid a brittle mottled brown. You might want to have those covers replaces as the process will eventually destroy the knife. Don't keep it near other knives as it will affect the steel on those as well. Eric

Yep, I had called it "going rogue."

[ea42]

Cal, sorry buddy. I missed that one

Eric

[Capemike]

Thanks guys.
Being pre 1940 Ulster Knife would make sence, as my grandfather worked at Ulster then. My father was born in 38, and he started as soon as he was of age. When I was a kid, eventhough we went to Schrade in Ellenville where he worked, for the longest time he would call it Ulster Knife. I'm not sure if he ever worked in Walden, but I'm sure his father did.
As for the off gassing of the celluloid, I don't plan on keeping any, I just want to get rid of all 60+ that I have now. When he passed, I put them in a box and just forgot about them. But my time is coming as I've got two cancers, and I dont want the other half to have to clean up my stuff. I'm making a detailed list, or should say I'm finishing the list I started two years ago.
Another that I have, actually two, is a tie clip knife that's a Craftsman hologram. Can't find it anywhere!

[orvet]

Sorry to hear about your health problems Mike. My wife has been battling cancer for two and a half years now but they seem to have gotten a handle on it with new targeted treatment.
I'll put you on my prayer list.

Eric or Cal will probably know the correct year, but as I recall before the move to Ellenville, Schrade Walden and Ulster were made in the same Factory, both companies owned by Albert Baer.

[ea42]

Mike the Schrade Walden plant in Ellenville was originally the old Ulster plant so that's probably why he called it that. Lots of history in those buildings!!

Eric

[1fartsmella]

At 2 7/8" closed, the OP knife is what I call a Reverse Peanut. Some call this a Dog Leg or Serpentine Jack. Here's a pair of New York Knife Co. knives.
The top knife is a Peanut, the bottom knife is a reverse peanut. As you can see the handle is the same shape for both knives, but the blades open from opposite sides. It's difficult to determine who made the OP knife for HSB but New York Knife Co did make many knives for HSB back then.

[knife7knut]

Ok, I'll go back and check it out.
I didn't think you would send bad info, I've been told you know your stuff.
Thanks

BTW
I don't have it infront of me, but I've got this piece that is probably the oldest one I've ever seen.
It's a tie clip knife and sizzor combo. But the sizzors are long and covered by a metal sheath. Oh he'll, let me take a pic of it. I can't make out the letters on the front, I'll have to play with that later. The sizzors are broken, and I can't find markings on the tang.
Ever seen one like this before?

I thought this one looked familiar: I have one that is intact w/ivory handles. Yours has had one of the handles removed. The,''tie clip '' is actually the leaf spring to operate the scissors. Mine is stamped, '' JOSEPH RODGERS CUTLERS TO HER MAJESTY No.6 NORFOLK ST. '' Here are a couple pics.