Good afternoon. These are my only Winchester knives, both were acquired thru eBay at separate times. I have read through many threads about counterfeits, just wondering if what I have here are real and are old as they both appear. Razor has a number stamp(8527) , 2 blade knife only has tang stamp on main blade, no other markings anywhere. Any help or thoughts are appreciated. I am having difficulty up loading images. I will keep trying. Not a great way but this works.















