Making a new sheath for a Western Bowie knife - first time leather project!

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I plan to make a leather sheath for my G.C. Co 5inch stag handle Bowie (my boyhood hunting knife). However, rather than that being my first attempt at leather working, I decided to first make a sheath for another Bowie I own, an 8 inch Western knife.
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I had probably watched a dozen sheath making videos on YouTube over the past few weeks as I was mentally planning my upcoming project. Fortunately, I happened on a very nice 7-part series by Weaver Leather Supply. Chuck Dorsett moves methodically through a sheath building project of the very type I wanted to build.

The first order of business was to purchase some leather making supplies. I bought an inexpensive starter kit off Amazon which arrived nice and quick. But, it was clear from a thorough inspection that the quality was less than stellar. And, from watching the YouTube videos it became clear there are a few items that are best not to skimp on, among which are the stitching groover and edge beveler. I finally took the plunge and visited the Tandy Leather Supply website and ordered those items, as well as a couple of leather dyes and a 7-9oz Veg tanned shoulder. Delivery was a bit slow, but finally my leather supplies arrived and I was ready to begin. Or so I thought.

My first task was to create the paper templates that would be used to cut out the leather. Simple eh? Ha! It's been a lotta years since those high school drafting classes! What took Chuck Dorsett about 10 minutes on video took me some 2-1/2 hours and three attempts! But, I finally got my templates created.
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When the Tandy leather supplies arrived I was initially shocked at the weight and stiffness of the 7-9oz cowhide. I couldn't imagine a sheath of any reasonable size could be made from that - it would be ginormously thick! LoL Well, that led me to take a trip across town to a local Tandy supply store to see if I could get it exchanged for something thinner. Sometimes a face-to-face meeting really helps. The guy at Tandy, once he understood the project and the knife I was making it for, assured me that the 7-9oz would be the right leather after all. Of course, I did not leave the Tandy store without a few more purchases (thread, needles, another dye, better stitching chisels, etc.).

Once home I ensued upon the sheath project. Wow! That 7-9oz leather is a tough cut! Of course, for a beginner everything is a learning process. It took me a while to discover I could use less elbow grit and pass through the same line twice or three times to cut my leather. :wink: I'd have to say there was never a moment without trepidation that day. But, by the end of the day I had my leather pieces cut for face, welt, back & belt loop, and hold-down strap. I then whetted down the face piece and worked on applying a weave pattern (made a few mistakes there, but dye and antiquing helps hide them some). After that, I pounded stitch holes in the face piece. Then it was on to dying the leather pieces. Finally, it was time to apply contact cement and bring face, welt, and back & belt loop together as one.

This is where some of the drama set in. I came to realize only too late, that my face piece and back & belt loop peace, were not an exact matching fit for each other. Now they were bonded, and the bottom of the back piece (blade tip area) was a bit short. And I had already put stitch holes in that face piece that were now much too close to the edge of the bottom piece. In my beginner's ignorance I tried to cut a sliver of leather and cement it into that area of the bottom piece to match the top piece. I spent a fair amount of time trying to sand it and make it work. But, it looked wonky, and I was not all all satisfied with it. After a night of sleep I decided the better approach was to just trim the sheath at the bottom and create new stitch holes there. After applying the dye and antiquing to the leather my boo boo at the bottom was not as blatantly noticeable as before. I finally decided to just live with it.
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Stitching came next and was quite a chore! I had my stitching holes in the face piece, but per Chuck Dorsett's instructions, I had waited until after cementing and dying to send them through the welt and back piece. Chuck suggested that you could never really match them up if you had pounded stitching holes through each piece individually. And, because of the thickness of the leather, I also needed to pound them through at an outside-to-inside angle, so they would not wander too close to the edge of the bottom piece. Unfortunately, that stitching chisel did not sink all the way through the bottom piece, so I then had to use an awl and finish each stitch hole by hand. Pushing that awl through 64 stitch holes was no small effort (at least for me as a beginner, unaccustomed to typical leather working).

Then it was time to do the stitching! I found out quickly that I had NO IDEA how to do a saddle stitch. I had saved several YouTube videos showing how to saddle stitch, but apparently they were all moving too quick for me or something. Somehow I was just not "getting it." I got disgusted and angry and a little voice in my head told me to "go take a break" (i.e., just walk away). I went upstairs and found the couch. Took some time for some personal reading, and then after a prayer for help, I went into my computer room and did some looking for an article that might explain this "saddle stitching" to me in a way I could understand. I found one! And after a couple reads it made sense to me! LoL Well, I headed back downstairs and got myself setup for stitching the sheath, with the article close at hand on my iPhone. I have to say, for a new-to-leather-working guy, this was a lot of tedious work. Part of the problem was that it was hard to find a way to keep tension in that thread after each stitch so they would be nice and tight throughout. It really was a bit exhausting. If I understand it correctly, those 64 stitch holes turned into 128 thread pass-thorough's. I finally got it done, and without having stabbed myself to boot! Ha!
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The stitching was complete, and it was now time to install the belt-loop rivets and the hold-down strap with fasteners. I had purchased a kit of fasteners from Amazon, but it was clear to me they were the wrong size and would not work. Drive all the way to Tandy again (some 17 miles)? Thought I'd try my local Hobby Lobby first. Nope. Bummer! Tried Menards, no go. "Hum...what about Michael's Craft Store?" Yep, I found a couple starter kits for rivets and fasteners. Back home the work ensued to complete the sheath. I was watching Chuck Dorsett do it on video, as I went along, to avoid doing something dumb in the process. Okay, got the rivets installed. Yay! Then came the hold-down strap and fasteners. First one went just fine. But, the second fastener presented problems. It seemed the leather was too thick for the female piece to bond with the male piece (i.e., wrong size fastener). I finally had to resort to removing the male piece (no small effort it seems), and then skive down the area so there would be more for the female piece to grab hold of. Hooray!! It worked! And just like that it was done.
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It feels like quite an adventure to have completed my first leather working project and knife sheath. It was no small education either. But, it was a fun and rewarding effort and education. Now I think I'm ready to begin working on the project I most wanted to do - make a new sheath for my G.C. Co 5inch Bowie knife. Stay tuned. There will likely be another article for that one. :D
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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:51 pm
dbe4876 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:31 pm I.....
Maybe the folks here would be interested also. ::shrug::
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I have asked the admins group to move this over there. Thanks for letting me know. :)
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dbe4876 wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:05 pm I.....
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I deleted my other post since it was no longer needed.
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Great write up and work! For a first attempt it really looks good. People don’t realize the work that goes in to hand cutting and stitching leather sheaths. I’m excited to see your next one and thanks for the post.
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First attempt???
Could have fooled me. Looks great!
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That is not a good job - it is a great job!
I have done a handful of sheaths, but I did not do any stamping on mine. After seeing yours, I realize that the pattern stamping makes a far bigger difference in the final look.
Plus, you are picking up a cool new hobby!
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Reverand wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:36 am That is not a good job - it is a great job!
I have done a handful of sheaths, but I did not do any stamping on mine. After seeing yours, I realize that the pattern stamping makes a far bigger difference in the final look.
Plus, you are picking up a cool new hobby!
Thanks so much. I will say, I prayed pretty frequently during this project. LoL And, each time I faced a disappointment I found a workaround. Grace kept me going. I agree on the stamping. I had seen that in some videos and I too thought it was well worth the effort (even if my stamping was fraught with mistakes - it’s really not easy to do well!). I’m also hoping in my next one to add fringe.
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It appears to me that the future is quite bright for you as far as leather work goes. I'm very impressed with your first effort. Keep up the good work and keep us posted on your progress.
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Nice job. The next one will come easier, but won't likely yield the satisfaction of the first!

After making my top holes and cementing the edges, I used a drill press to get through the edge spacer and backing...it worked great for me.
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