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I needed to make two rough cut out braces for a shelf match and my modern band saw is down, needs a new blade. So what to do?

Pull out the old Stanley Rule & Level #64 spokeshave. And to fine tune the fit I used my high tech spindle sander. A little finish sanding and they’ll be ready to go.

Reckon how many more generations my old spokeshaves and planes will go through? More than my power tools for sure!
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Colonel26 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:49 am Reckon how many more generations my old spokeshaves and planes will go through? More than my power tools for sure!
I hope they outlast that spindle sander! :D

Good work, Wade, nothing like the old tried and true hand tools.
They have proven themselves for years. ::nod::
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"How many more generations", I would have to say not many if any. The younger generation has no use or time for anything that outdated. The last year I was working, one of my co workers, a 20 something was ranting about old hand tools being nothing but scrap iron. I took my Stanley smoothing plane and attached a 4 ft power cord with plug to it and took him into my confidence that I had developed an "update" for hand planes. He spent almost an hour trying to figure out how it worked. He never really talked to me again after that day.
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FRJ wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:20 pm
Colonel26 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:49 am Reckon how many more generations my old spokeshaves and planes will go through? More than my power tools for sure!
I hope they outlast that spindle sander! :D

Good work, Wade, nothing like the old tried and true hand tools.
They have proven themselves for years. ::nod::
Amen! Truth be told, I’m better with a spoke shave than with the bandsaw anyway.
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OLDE CUTLER wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:31 pm "How many more generations", I would have to say not many if any. The younger generation has no use or time for anything that outdated. The last year I was working, one of my co workers, a 20 something was ranting about old hand tools being nothing but scrap iron. I took my Stanley smoothing plane and attached a 4 ft power cord with plug to it and took him into my confidence that I had developed an "update" for hand planes. He spent almost an hour trying to figure out how it worked. He never really talked to me again after that day.
To a large degree you’re right. And that was hillarious what you did with the power cord. 🤣.

I find it easier to be accurate with hand tools than with the power tools. It could be that I don’t take the time to set them up right. But for a couple of cuts I can take my planes, shaves, chisels, etc… and do what’s needed in the time it would take to change blades and set the machine up.

I’m fortunate in that my middle son loves making things with the old hand tools. He’s already laid claim to my meager collection. This morning before church he showed me a boys ax that he rehabbed and rehung last night. I could not have done as good a job!
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Colonel26 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:15 pm
OLDE CUTLER wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:31 pm "How many more generations", I would have to say not many if any. The younger generation has no use or time for anything that outdated. The last year I was working, one of my co workers, a 20 something was ranting about old hand tools being nothing but scrap iron. I took my Stanley smoothing plane and attached a 4 ft power cord with plug to it and took him into my confidence that I had developed an "update" for hand planes. He spent almost an hour trying to figure out how it worked. He never really talked to me again after that day.
To a large degree you’re right. And that was hillarious what you did with the power cord. 🤣.

I find it easier to be accurate with hand tools than with the power tools. It could be that I don’t take the time to set them up right. But for a couple of cuts I can take my planes, shaves, chisels, etc… and do what’s needed in the time it would take to change blades and set the machine up.

I’m fortunate in that my middle son loves making things with the old hand tools. He’s already laid claim to my meager collection. This morning before church he showed me a boys ax that he rehabbed and rehung last night. I could not have done as good a job!
Right you are. I still use hand tools to build things like boxes and so on. Hand saw the parts, use the joiner plane to straighten edges, cut mitered ends and true them with a plane and shooting board, use the Stanley #45 to cut other joints, and drill holes with the Stanley breast drill. I still use the Stanley flat and curved bottom spoke shaves on the decoy carvings. I like to handle the old tools, all mine are users.
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OLDE CUTLER wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:31 pm
Colonel26 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:15 pm
OLDE CUTLER wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:31 pm "How many more generations", I would have to say not many if any. The younger generation has no use or time for anything that outdated. The last year I was working, one of my co workers, a 20 something was ranting about old hand tools being nothing but scrap iron. I took my Stanley smoothing plane and attached a 4 ft power cord with plug to it and took him into my confidence that I had developed an "update" for hand planes. He spent almost an hour trying to figure out how it worked. He never really talked to me again after that day.
To a large degree you’re right. And that was hillarious what you did with the power cord. 🤣.

I find it easier to be accurate with hand tools than with the power tools. It could be that I don’t take the time to set them up right. But for a couple of cuts I can take my planes, shaves, chisels, etc… and do what’s needed in the time it would take to change blades and set the machine up.

I’m fortunate in that my middle son loves making things with the old hand tools. He’s already laid claim to my meager collection. This morning before church he showed me a boys ax that he rehabbed and rehung last night. I could not have done as good a job!
Right you are. I still use hand tools to build things like boxes and so on. Hand saw the parts, use the joiner plane to straighten edges, cut mitered ends and true them with a plane and shooting board, use the Stanley #45 to cut other joints, and drill holes with the Stanley breast drill. I still use the Stanley flat and curved bottom spoke shaves on the decoy carvings. I like to handle the old tools, all mine are users.
You’re a man after my own heart! Anymore my table saw mostly just holds my hand tools.

I don’t have a 45…yet…I’m waiting on the right one to come along, and I use an egg beater hand drill and my braces and bits. I’ll have to keep an eye out for a breast drill. I’ve heard good things about them.

I have the 4-7 (my 5 is a Bedrock). The old Stanley #6 try/fore plane is probably my all around favorite general purpose plane. But I’m hunting a 71 router plane real hard right now.

Hand tools, a decent bench, and a shooting board…about all you need.
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I see a few Stanley #45 around. I bought mine a few years back for $125. It is not a collectable but a user, has some missing plating, but had all the cutters that were included in 1914 and the metal box was missing the lid. I had considered a #55, but they are a lot more expensive and complex than what I needed.
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OLDE CUTLER wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:03 am I see a few Stanley #45 around. I bought mine a few years back for $125. It is not a collectable but a user, has some missing plating, but had all the cutters that were included in 1914 and the metal box was missing the lid. I had considered a #55, but they are a lot more expensive and complex than what I needed.
Yes sir. I always heard that Stanley made the 55 just to see how complicated they could make a plane.
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Colonel26 wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:42 am
OLDE CUTLER wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:31 pm
Colonel26 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:15 pm

To a large degree you’re right. And that was hillarious what you did with the power cord. 🤣.

I find it easier to be accurate with hand tools than with the power tools. It could be that I don’t take the time to set them up right. But for a couple of cuts I can take my planes, shaves, chisels, etc… and do what’s needed in the time it would take to change blades and set the machine up.

I’m fortunate in that my middle son loves making things with the old hand tools. He’s already laid claim to my meager collection. This morning before church he showed me a boys ax that he rehabbed and rehung last night. I could not have done as good a job!
Right you are. I still use hand tools to build things like boxes and so on. Hand saw the parts, use the joiner plane to straighten edges, cut mitered ends and true them with a plane and shooting board, use the Stanley #45 to cut other joints, and drill holes with the Stanley breast drill. I still use the Stanley flat and curved bottom spoke shaves on the decoy carvings. I like to handle the old tools, all mine are users.
You’re a man after my own heart! Anymore my table saw mostly just holds my hand tools.

I don’t have a 45…yet…I’m waiting on the right one to come along, and I use an egg beater hand drill and my braces and bits. I’ll have to keep an eye out for a breast drill. I’ve heard good things about them.

I have the 4-7 (my 5 is a Bedrock). The old Stanley #6 try/fore plane is probably my all around favorite general purpose plane. But I’m hunting a 71 router plane real hard right now.

Hand tools, a decent bench, and a shooting board…about all you need.
Yes, the breast drill is a most valuable hand tool, one of the original drill/drivers. I have my dads Stanley #742, which as shown on the pictures is a 2 speed. Engage the bigger gear for higher speed when drilling, smaller gear for less speed, more torque for driving screws. It is a big unit, 16 and 1/2" long overall with a 1/2 inch chuck. When I was a kid I used a Stanley eggbeater for most things, but got out the #742 for bigger holes and screwdriving. I see them occasionally at the flea markets and tool shows.
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Since you mentioned drills, I've got two that are still cutting it. :mrgreen:

I haven't used these in a while, especially the smaller one. But I haven't been using my tools much of late.
These tools are as smooth as butter in spite of their age. ::tu::
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FRJ wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:46 pm Since you mentioned drills, I've got two that are still cutting it. :mrgreen:

I haven't used these in a while, especially the smaller one. But I haven't been using my tools much of late.
These tools are as smooth as butter in spite of their age. ::tu::
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Colonel26 wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:42 am
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Right you are. I still use hand tools to build things like boxes and so on. Hand saw the parts, use the joiner plane to straighten edges, cut mitered ends and true them with a plane and shooting board, use the Stanley #45 to cut other joints, and drill holes with the Stanley breast drill. I still use the Stanley flat and curved bottom spoke shaves on the decoy carvings. I like to handle the old tools, all mine are users.
You’re a man after my own heart! Anymore my table saw mostly just holds my hand tools.

I don’t have a 45…yet…I’m waiting on the right one to come along, and I use an egg beater hand drill and my braces and bits. I’ll have to keep an eye out for a breast drill. I’ve heard good things about them.

I have the 4-7 (my 5 is a Bedrock). The old Stanley #6 try/fore plane is probably my all around favorite general purpose plane. But I’m hunting a 71 router plane real hard right now.

Hand tools, a decent bench, and a shooting board…about all you need.
Yes, the breast drill is a most valuable hand tool, one of the original drill/drivers. I have my dads Stanley #742, which as shown on the pictures is a 2 speed. Engage the bigger gear for higher speed when drilling, smaller gear for less speed, more torque for driving screws. It is a big unit, 16 and 1/2" long overall with a 1/2 inch chuck. When I was a kid I used a Stanley eggbeater for most things, but got out the #742 for bigger holes and screwdriving. I see them occasionally at the flea markets and tool shows.

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Those drills are fantastic! Wow!
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FRJ wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:46 pm Since you mentioned drills, I've got two that are still cutting it. :mrgreen:

I haven't used these in a while, especially the smaller one. But I haven't been using my tools much of late.
These tools are as smooth as butter in spite of their age. ::tu::
Joe, are both of yours 2 speed?
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OLDE CUTLER wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:42 am Joe, are both of yours 2 speed?
Yes, the Goodell Pratt has a button that has Slow or Fast on the cap. The button is pressed in to engage or pulled out to disengage.
I haven't spent enough time with it to fully understand the mechanics of it. I'll get better pictures of that tomorrow.
The Dunlap is two speed as well. The gear mechanism slides back and forth to engage small and larger gears. Similar to yours, I believe.
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FRJ wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:44 am
OLDE CUTLER wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:42 am Joe, are both of yours 2 speed?
Yes, the Goodell Pratt has a button that has Slow or Fast on the cap. The button is pressed in to engage or pulled out to disengage.
I haven't spent enough time with it to fully understand the mechanics of it. I'll get better pictures of that tomorrow.
The Dunlap is two speed as well. The gear mechanism slides back and forth to engage small and larger gears. Similar to yours, I believe.
But of y’all’s are fantastic. Do I remember correctly that Stanley bought out Goddell and Pratt?

Now y’all have done given me another rabbit hole to go down, I’m going to have to pick up a breast drill now. 🤦‍♂️
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Colonel26 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:06 am
FRJ wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:44 am
OLDE CUTLER wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:42 am Joe, are both of yours 2 speed?
Yes, the Goodell Pratt has a button that has Slow or Fast on the cap. The button is pressed in to engage or pulled out to disengage.
I haven't spent enough time with it to fully understand the mechanics of it. I'll get better pictures of that tomorrow.
The Dunlap is two speed as well. The gear mechanism slides back and forth to engage small and larger gears. Similar to yours, I believe.
But of y’all’s are fantastic. Do I remember correctly that Stanley bought out Goddell and Pratt?

Now y’all have done given me another rabbit hole to go down, I’m going to have to pick up a breast drill now. 🤦‍♂️
In actual operation, it's more like a "belly drill". lol
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I would not be surprised at all to learn that Stanley bought Goodell and Pratt only to bury the sophistication of a fine company that would infringe on the promotion of Stanley. A tactic used by many.

A few more pictures if it matters.
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FRJ wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:23 pm I would not be surprised at all to learn that Stanley bought Goodell and Pratt only to bury the sophistication of a fine company that would infringe on the promotion of Stanley. A tactic used by many.

A few more pictures if it matters.
That is great!

And you’re spot on about Stanley. They did the same thing with North Bros. Yankee braces and screwdrivers.

Your G&P breast drill is fantastic!
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Colonel26 wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2024 3:55 pm Your G&P breast drill is fantastic!
Thank you, Wade.
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OLDE CUTLER wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:31 pm "How many more generations", I would have to say not many if any. The younger generation has no use or time for anything that outdated. The last year I was working, one of my co workers, a 20 something was ranting about old hand tools being nothing but scrap iron. I took my Stanley smoothing plane and attached a 4 ft power cord with plug to it and took him into my confidence that I had developed an "update" for hand planes. He spent almost an hour trying to figure out how it worked. He never really talked to me again after that day.
Unfortunately, I concur with you O.C. things aren't looking so good for passing on the "Old Ways" to the younger generations, like what was passed on to me.... :x
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