Case tested 1920-1940 6254 is it real or fake? I did shine the handles and blades with my sunshine cloth.

[OLDE CUTLER]

Well anyway at this point 2 things are known. The knife exists and it is a fake. If it continues to exist then the possibility is that at some time in the future someone else may be scammed. The thing to do is either to drill a hole thru the fake Case tang stamp to denote it as a fake, or destroy the knife.

[Walleye]

Well anyway at this point 2 things are known. The knife exists and it is a fake. If it continues to exist then the possibility is that at some time in the future someone else may be scammed. The thing to do is either to drill a hole thru the fake Case tang stamp to denote it as a fake, or destroy the knife.

That's a bit extreme don't you think?

To the OP:

I think the argument has been well-made - the consensus here is that the knife is not what it purports to be, i.e. not made in the Case factory, not made when the stamping would indicate it was made, jigging and color of the bone is incorrect, etc. On the other hand it is marked Case, so in the eyes of some, it might be a "Case knife". But not really.

[bestgear]

The thing to do is either to drill a hole thru the fake Case tang stamp to denote it as a fake, or destroy the knife.

That's a bit extreme don't you think?

not when this could happen again either knowingly or unknowingly by an heir.

..,, I knew when I bought it that was probably fake

[Mumbleypeg]

I agree with Tom. These fakes continue to live on, and dupe the ignorant out of their hard earned cash. May have started life as an intentionally-made counterfeit, but then the buyer eventually passes it on to someone else, either attempting to recoup their money, or through heirs after death.
And the cycle starts all over again.

Those who watch ebay sales will often see the same counterfeit knife sold, and resold.

Unless or until the knife is destroyed or irrevocably marked as counterfeit, it's only a matter of time until it claims another victim. And probably sours another person's experience with knife collecting. It's not good for our hobby.

Ken

[OLDE CUTLER]

Well anyway at this point 2 things are known. The knife exists and it is a fake. If it continues to exist then the possibility is that at some time in the future someone else may be scammed. The thing to do is either to drill a hole thru the fake Case tang stamp to denote it as a fake, or destroy the knife.

That's a bit extreme don't you think?

To the OP:

I think the argument has been well-made - the consensus here is that the knife is not what it purports to be, i.e. not made in the Case factory, not made when the stamping would indicate it was made, jigging and color of the bone is incorrect, etc. On the other hand it is marked Case, so in the eyes of some, it might be a "Case knife". But not really.

Not at all extreme. If he wants to keep the knife as an EDC, then a hole thru the tang stamp will mark it forever as a fake and allow it to be used. The usual statement one hears about knives such as this is "I will never sell it". Unless one has plans to live forever, it will eventually be on the market for sale to take in another victim. One question I would have is are the blades of the knife in the OP even hardened? I got a fake NY Knife in the last POS exchange and I drilled a hole thru the tang stamp and intended to use it. However, the blades were dead soft, never been hardened and thus useless. So I dis assembled the knife to re use the frame for a custom and the blades will be discarded.

[RalphAlsip]

Posting this in case it is useful / interesting to see an authentic Case Tested XX 54 trapper knife. This knife is pictured multiple times in Sargents 7th edition. In some descriptions Sargent calls it 2nd cut bone which would make the pattern 6254. In another description Sargent calls it 2nd cut stag which would make the pattern 5254. There is no red bone Case Tested XX 6254.

Things to note are the width of the bolsters and the size and shape of the blades.

[olderdogs1]

Here is one that I have that is pictured in my book that I have always referred to as 2nd cut stag.

[RalphAlsip]

Here is one that I have that is pictured in my book that I have always referred to as 2nd cut stag.

Great looking knife! And the stag looks red to boot.