What is this pattern Western pocket knife called?

In 1911, H. N. Platts, was able to draw on his extensive friendships and family connections in the cutlery world to start Western States Cutlery and Manufacturing of Boulder Colorado. At first only a jobbing business, by 1920 construction and machinery purchases were underway to begin manufacture of knives. Through name changes--to Western States Cutlery Co. in 1953, then Western Cutlery Co. in 1956--and moves first across town and later to Longmont Colorado, the company stayed under the leadership of the Platt family until 1984. In that year, the company was sold to Coleman, becoming Coleman-Western. Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007.
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What is this pattern Western pocket knife called?

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I was looking around on the auction site at what were listed as "Rail Splitter" patterns. Then I switched to "Western" brand and this knife popped up and I took a fancy and bid...long story short, I won it and its on the way.

While I think it resembles a Case Rail Splitter to my eye, I wondered if there is a subtle difference or if Western had a different name for the pattern or?

It doesn't really matter, because I bought it because I liked it, but it looks to be on the larger side and I haven't seen a Western like it before.

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Looks like a trapper to me. Clip master and long spey.

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Mumbleypeg wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:44 pm Looks like a trapper to me. Clip master and long spey.

Ken
Thank you

When I first looked at it "Trapper" popped into my head as well...but then I wandered down the rabbit hole that "Rail Splitter" brings up on the auction site again, and that name seems to be used as a pattern name on several different patterns depending on the brand. So I was just a wondering. I had an Old Timer Trapper that looked a lot like this Western.

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A Railsplitter is a heavy teardrop (aka swell-end) jack, typical having a clip or spear master with a pen secondary. The sides are straight whereas a trapper has a curved frame. I’ve never seen a Railsplitter with a spey.

Rather than wandering down the auction site rabbit hole I recommend the AAPK Research section, or a keyword search here. You’re more likely to get learned info there than on an auction site.

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Every time I open this site I learn stuff! Thanks you...I looked at some pics and I see what you are describing.

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Western call the 91 pattern a "Trapper's Knife". The leading 6 is for the handle material, which after 1961, was used for Delrin handles.
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zzyzzogeton wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 5:09 pm Western call the 91 pattern a "Trapper's Knife". The leading 6 is for the handle material, which after 1961, was used for Delrin handles.
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Well this knife showed up...one of the scales is lifting and will need to be tacked down. The guy didn't mention it in the ad, so I called. He said he would take it back, but I really like this knife so I declined. I am wondering if it was just getting old and then the shipping process/temps may have caused it to come free on one end. But I am really liking the knife and other than the scale, it is in beautiful condition. The blades have 1/2 stop, and they snap open and shut with no blade wobble. I'll get the scale tacked down and then give it a gentle cleaning and then post some more pics.

Here are some before pics of how it came to me
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