THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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I stumbled upon this "W & H" by accident and just a little too late.::dang:: 😡
I am posting this advertising pocket knife for future reference.
BANK OF
COMMERCE & TRUST CO.
MEMPHIS, TENN.
It looks like some of the main blade is missing.
It looks like the secondary blade is just a stub.
This advertising pocket knife is NOT mine. The picture(s) are NOT mine.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on the picture to ENLARGE.

***** If The New Owner Wishes To Part With It, PLEASE PM ME! I Am Definitely NOT A CHEAPSKATE. *****
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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Recently, my trip to the post office produced this advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the latest example to be added to my collection. It is a W & H, one blade, one tang stamp, 2 7/32" closed, all metal, advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. It has the curved or arched style of tang stamp, WITH the USA in the center. The main blade front tang stamp says, "THE W & H CO (over) USA (over) NEWARK NJ" The main handle side says, "D-A LUBRICANT CO. INC. - INDIANAPOLIS, IND. " The other handle side says, "THESE KEYS ARE - REGISTERED IF - FOUND PLEASE - RETURN 12195" This is my second, W & H, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife, that advertises this particular company, business, product, event, etc. My other D-A LUBRICANT CO. INC. pocket knife was previously posted under this topic or thread. This blade does NOT have a half stop. This blade does NOT have an opening snap. This blade does NOT have a closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is in VERY GOOD condition. It needed VERY little cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

***** TRIVIA *****
Please see my previous post on Wednesday, October 11, 2023.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
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This afternoon, my visit to the post office produced this advertising pocket knife. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the latest example to be added to my collection. It is a W & H, two blades, two tang stamps, 3 1/8" closed, all metal, advertising, pocket knife. Both the main blade and the secondary blade tang stamps are the curved or arched style, WITHOUT the USA in the center. The main blade front tang stamp says, "THE W. & H. CO. (over) NEWARK, N.J." The secondary blade front tang stamp also says, "THE W. & H. CO. (over) NEWARK, N.J." The main handle side says, "SCOTTISH UNION & NATIONAL - INSURANCE COMPANY - HARTFORD, CONN." and also has a "coat of arms" or "crest" type of logo or emblem. The other handle side says, "1824-ONE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY-1924" This is my seventh, W & H pocket knife, that advertises this particular company, business, product, organization, event, etc. My other six, "SCOTTISH UNION" pocket knives, have ALL been previously posted, under and throughout, this topic or thread. Both blades appear to have suffered blade loss. This does NOT cause me any loss of sleep. Both blades still sit fine when closed. This main blade has NO half stop. This main blade has NO opening snap. This main blade has NO closing snap. This secondary blade has NO half stop. This secondary blade has NO opening snap. This secondary blade has an OK closing snap. This pocket knife is in GOOD condition. This pocket knife needed VERY little cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

***** TRIVIA *****
See My Post From Friday, October 21, 2022.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Secondary Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Secondary Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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Yesterday afternoon, my trip to the post office produced this advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the latest example to be added to my collection. It is a W & H, one blade, one tang stamp, 2 7/32" closed, all metal, advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. It has the curved or arched style of tang stamp, WITH the USA in the center. The main blade front tang stamp says, "THE W & H CO (over) USA (over) NEWARK, N.J." The main handle side says, "CHESTER M. CLOUD - METROPOLITAN AGENT - AUTOMOBILE DEPT." The other handle side says, "HOME INSURANCE CO. N.Y. - THE STANDARD ACCIDENT INS. CO. - 63 MAIDEN LANE N.Y. CITY." This is my second, W & H, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife, that advertises this particular company, business, product, event, etc. My other CHESTER M. CLOUD pocket knife was previously posted under this topic or thread, WITHOUT "trivia", back on Thursday, June 3, 2021. This blade does have a SOFT half stop. This blade does have a GOOD opening snap. This blade does have a VERY GOOD closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is in EXCELLENT condition. It needed VERY little cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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***** TRIVIA *****
Doing just a simple, basic Google search, produced NO results at all for CHESTER M. CLOUD himself.
However, items and information regarding the HOME INSURANCE CO. N.Y. were plentiful.
Per ENCYCLOpedia.com, as of 2019(?).....
The Home Insurance Company, 59 Maiden Lane, New York, New York 10038, U.S.A.
(212) 530-6800 - Fax: (212) 530-7056
Wholly Owned Subsidiary of TVH Acquisition Corporation
Incorporated: 1853 - Employees: 5,073 - Assets: $6.69 billion
"The Home Insurance Company is the 23rd-largest property and casualty company in the United States. Home provides virtually all lines of insurance, with the bulk of its business being industrial property insurance and liability for large accounts. The company has undergone numerous changes over the course of its history, and has contributed significantly to the face of modern property and casualty insurance.When Home was founded in 1853 insurance was very different from what it is today. Property owners purchased insurance to hedge the risk of loss. Claims were not expected to cover more than the value of the lost property, and sometimes covered less. Only a few types of insurance were available, and insurance companies were generally limited in the types of coverage they could offer. Indeed, many merchants had trouble getting enough protection for their property. To help solve this problem, a group of New York City merchants established The Home Insurance Company. Paid-in capital was $500,000, large for an insurance company in those days. Simeon Loomis was Home’s first president. Loomis brought some insurance experience with him when he came to New York from Hartford, Connecticut. After two years, Loomis left Home over matters of policy, and was replaced by secretary Charles J. Martin. Martin led Home Insurance for the next 33 years. One of Home’s most significant contributions to the insurance industry was its popularization of the insurance agency system. Insurance companies were warned by state commissioners not to expand too widely. The comptroller of the state of New York cautioned mutual companies against selling insurance outside of their own counties. The promoters of Home, however, named 18 agencies in the first month of operations, and 128 throughout the United States and Canada by the end of the year. Only one other company in New York used independent agents to sell its insurance in 1853, and the concept caught on quickly. Thirty years later, in 1883, Home’s president, Charles Martin, reported that 37 of the city’s 57 insurers sold through agencies. Another innovation in property insurance instituted during Home’s early years was the concept of safety engineering and risk management. A position for a surveyor was included in the company’s original bylaws. Among the surveyor’s duties was attending “to the interests of the company in surveying buildings and watching risks which the company may be insured.” About one-third of Home’s premiums were written in the South, and when the Civil War started in 1861, the loss of this income slowed the company’s growth. Home honored all policies, Union and Confederate. In 1864, another $1 million was added to Home’s capital base, through subscription. With total paid-in capital of $2 million, Home was the largest fire insurer in the country. Nineteenth-century fire-control techniques were not adequate to protect U.S. cities, which had grown rapidly. New York City, for example, did not have a full-time fire department until 1865. Several major conflagrations in the latter half of the century resulted in the payment of hundreds of thousands of dollars to claimants. In 1866 big fires in Portland, Maine; Glens Falls, New York; and Vicksburg, Mississippi, put a strain on insurance companies’ resources, but the biggest blow came in 1871, in Chicago. The Great Chicago Fire destroyed $200 million worth of property and bankrupted 68 insurance companies. Home paid $2.5 million in claims. The company’s stockholders injected another $1.5 million in capital to keep Home going. A year later a fire in Boston forced 30 more insurance companies into insolvency. The Home Insurance Company paid claims of $750,000, and in the late 19th century insurers began to promote the development of better fire protection and risk management. Home’s business expanded with the westward expansion of the United States. Home commissioned architect William Le Baron Jenney to design an office building for its Chicago-based operations. The Home Insurance Building was completed in 1885 and, at ten stories, was the world’s first skyscraper—its weight was supported by a steel skeleton rather than by walls. In 1903, as Home celebrated its 50th anniversary, it had premiums totaling $147 million. A year later a major fire in Baltimore, Maryland, cost Home $600,000 in claims but brought about changes in fire protection. Equipment sent to Baltimore from New York and other cities proved useless because hose fittings were not standardized. Insurance companies lobbied for national uniformity in fire-fighting equipment, and Home, which had been the leading insurer in Baltimore, led the movement. In 1906, the San Francisco Earthquake and Fire resulted in property losses of $250 million. Home paid $2.2 million in claims. Great fires became rare in the 20th century because of more effective building codes and improved fire-fighting technology. In the early 1900s automobile insurance was a growing field. Home’s automobile division became the foundation of its casualty insurance business. In 1930 a subsidiary, The Home Indemnity Company, took over Home’s casualty lines. Home’s assets grew 50% during World War I. In 1918, after the war, Home was one of the founders of the American Foreign Insurers Association, which offered coverage to European industries. After a brief dip in the postwar economy, Home grew steadily through the 1920s as well. The Depression, which followed the stock market crash of 1929, caused a downturn in Home’s premium income. By 1935 the economy had improved considerably, and World War II brought full economic revival. In 1944 the United States Supreme Court ruled against the industrywide practice of cooperating to set premium prices in United States v. Southeastern Underwriters Association. Insurers argued that most companies were too small to rely solely on their own experience in setting premiums. As a result of these protests the McCarran-Ferguson Act was passed by Congress in 1945, exempting insurance-rate fixing from the Sherman Antitrust Act, and placing responsibility for industry regulation in the hands of state governments. After the war Home’s automobile insurance business began to grow quickly. Along with the larger number of cars, however, came a larger number of accidents. Home decreased its automobile underwriting as a result. During the 1950s new laws allowed underwriters to sell a wider variety of insurance, and Home began selling insurance packages, which included several types of coverage for a monthly premium. Homeowners’ and industrial packages were marketed, as record numbers of Americans bought homes in the 1950s and 1960s. In the 1960s insurance company stocks were priced low at a time when most stocks were doing well. Home’s stock portfolio soared in value while the company’s market value remained low. As a result, in 1968 Northwestern Industries, a diversified railroad holding company, announced it would attempt to take over the insurance company. Home’s president, Kenneth E. Black, turned to City Investing Company, a diversified holding company. City Investing’s chairman, Robert Dowling, had long been a director of Home, and Home Insurance became a subsidiary of City Investing in 1968. Civil unrest in the late 1960s resulted in a large number of damage claims in urban areas. Government-imposed FAIR (Fair Access to Insurance Requirements) plans, and assigned risk plans spread the risk of undesirable underwritings among a number of insurance carriers. This system gave protection to customers who would otherwise have had trouble getting insurance. John H. Washburn, great grandson of an earlier Home president of the same name, was elected president in 1968, CEO a year later, and chairman in 1973. Robert H. Tullis, became president in 1973. In 1974 a severe recession, characterized by high inflation and descending stock prices, reduced the value of Home’s surplus and investments. At the same time, average claim settlements were rising rapidly. Home experienced record losses from underwriting, particularly as a result of writing high-risk casualty policies and failing to reserve adequately. The situation was so severe that some analysts speculated that Home was on the verge of bankruptcy, but the period of record losses was followed by a period of record gains for Home. The cyclical property and casualty markets rebounded in the latter half of the 1970s. In 1975 Cityhome Corporation, a subsidiary of City Investing, was incorporated to parent The Home Insurance Company and its affiliates. In 1978 Cityhome became known as The Home Group. City Investing also decided that The Home Group was overdue for restructuring. Home’s reputation had begun to suffer, and the head of City Investing’s financial division, Peter C.A. Huang, undertook the task of cleaning up Home. Huang, the son of a former Chinese minister of finance, is a brilliant financier, but had little patience with Home’s existing management, and fired 434 employees—mostly senior staff—while assuming the duties of chairman and later president himself. Huang instituted major changes in the company’s top management, its corporate structure, and its accounting system. Management was decentralized by region, and the memo-writing approach to strategic policymaking was abolished. New financial accounts included detailed breakdowns of all business areas. Huang’s purge left Home without a core of experienced insurance managers, but, as Huang told Institutional Investor in 1981, Home Insurance was “the only non-inbred insurance company, the only one run by non-insurance people.” In 1982 the Home Reinsurance Company began operations, reinsuring risks domestically and internationally. By 1988 its assets totaled more than $485 million. Home Insurance and its subsidiaries recorded devastating underwriting losses in 1984 and 1985. Combined operating losses for the two years totaled $396.9 million. In May 1984 a group of investors headed by Merrill Lynch Capital Markets, and including City Investing chairman George Scharffenberger, bid to take Home Insurance Company’s parent private. A week later a second group, headed by Miami investor Victor Posner, offered City an even more favorable deal. The Posner group’s bid allowed for equity participation by City’s current management, and was given a favorable recommendation by the City board. By summer, however, neither group had successfully raised the necessary funds to complete the transaction. In September, the Merrill Lynch group, assisted by leveraged buyout specialists Kohl-berg Kravis Roberts & Company, offered to buy just three of City Investing’s major manufacturing units. The price was right and the deal was accepted. The rest of City was split up; some assets being sold outright, and others, including Home Insurance, being temporarily spun off to shareholders until a buyer could be found. Scharffenberger hired his attorney, Marshall Manley, to head City Investing during the transition. Manley was then asked to stay on as president of the Home Group. Under Manley, two life insurance subsidiaries, PHF Life and Federal Home Life, were sold in 1985 for $130 million. In 1986 James J. Meenaghan, formerly president and CEO of Fireman’s Fund, became president and CEO of Home. He focused company strategy and sought to strengthen senior management. In August 1987, a brokerage house, Gruntal and Company, was purchased for $148 million. In 1988 Carteret Savings Bank was acquired by Home Group for $266 million. Home incurred significant debt to make these purchases, and its preferred stock was downgraded. Home’s debt increased from $94 million in 1985 to $479 million in 1989. The company’s shares dropped from a high of $31½ in 1986 to $7 in 1990. In 1989 Hurricane Hugo battered the southern Atlantic coast and territories of the United States, and the second great earthquake in a century rocked San Francisco. Home’s losses for the year were $50 million, relatively low compare to other carriers, some of which had claims totaling ten times that amount. In May 1989 The Home Group changed its name to Am-Base Corporation. The company organized its subsidiaries into three groups: insurance, consisting of The Home Insurance Company and its subsidiaries, Commonwealth Insurance Company—Home’s Canadian affiliate—and U.S. International Reinsurance; banking, made up of Carteret Bancorp, Imperial Premium Finance, and Carteret Mortgage; and investment services, built around Gruntal Financial Corporation and Home Capital Services. A fourth unit of AmBase was its Sterling Forest Corporation, a real estate development near New York City valued at over $35 million. In 1989, AmBase Chairman George T. Scharffenberger announced that the company planned to sell its insurance operation. Proceeds were earmarked to reduce the holding company’s debt. AmBase would continue to operate its banking and investment-service units, while the Home Insurance Companies and affiliates, around which the firm had grown, would continue to conduct their business as either a subsidiary of another company or independently. In February 1991 Home Insurance was purchased by TVH Acquisiton Corporation, an investor group whose principal partners include Trugg-Hansa Holding AB—Sweden’s second-largest insurer—and Industrial Mutual Insurance— Finland’s second-largest insurer. Few insurance companies have survived as long as The Home Insurance Company. Home has weathered the great storms; despite the financial turmoil of the 1980s Home is in sound financial condition and appears ready to face the challenges of the future."
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
Circa ?<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
Circa ?
NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
Circa 1915-1917.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
Circa 1915-1917.
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Circa 1920's.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
Circa 1920's.
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Circa 1929.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
Circa 1929.
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Top - Sign, Circa 1930's.<br />Bottom - Keys, Circa ?<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
Top - Sign, Circa 1930's.
Bottom - Keys, Circa ?
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A lot of history there Skip, thanks for posting all this :D
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Very interesting stuff Skip!
Thanks for taking the time to share. Have a great day out there ::handshake::
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Miller Bro's wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:11 pm A.....
Thank you, Dimitri.🍻
Thanks for looking at all of this.

Ripster wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:48 pm Very.....
Thank you, JP.🍻
Thanks for taking the time to look.
Take care up there.
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Recently, my visit to the post office produced this advertising pocket knife. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the latest example to be added to my collection. It is a W & H, two blades, two tang stamps, 3 1/8" closed, all metal, advertising, pocket knife. Both the main blade and the secondary blade tang stamps are the curved or arched style, WITHOUT the USA in the center. The main blade front tang stamp says, "THE W. & H. CO. (over) NEWARK, N.J." The secondary blade front tang stamp also says, "THE W. & H. CO. (over) NEWARK, N.J." The main handle side says, "SCOTTISH UNION & NATIONAL - INSURANCE COMPANY - HARTFORD, CONN." and also has a "coat of arms" or "crest" type of logo or emblem. The other handle side says, "1824-ONE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY-1924" This is my eighth, W & H pocket knife, that advertises this particular company, business, product, organization, event, etc. My other seven, "SCOTTISH UNION" pocket knives, have ALL been previously posted, under and throughout, this topic or thread. The main blade has NO half stop. The main blade has a GOOD opening snap. The main blade has a GOOD closing snap. The secondary blade has a SOFT half stop. The secondary blade has an OK opening snap. The secondary blade has an OK closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is in VERY GOOD condition. This pocket knife did NOT need any cleaning at all.
I just wiped it off. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

***** TRIVIA *****
See My Post From Friday, October 21, 2022.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Secondary Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Secondary Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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Very recently, my trip to the post office produced this advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the latest example to be added to my collection. It is a W & H, one blade, one tang stamp, 2 7/32" closed, all metal, advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. It has the curved or arched style of tang stamp, WITH the USA in the center. The main blade front tang stamp says, "THE W & H CO (over) USA (over) NEWARK, N.J." The main handle side says, "NEW BUILDING OPENING - FIRST NATIONAL BANK - MOUNDSVILLE, W.VA." The other handle side says, "SILVER ANNIVERSARY - 1901 - 1926" This is my first, W & H, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife, that advertises this particular business, company, product, event, etc. The blade does have a SOFT half stop. The blade does have a GOOD opening snap. The blade does have a VERY GOOD closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is in VERY GOOD condition. This pocket knife did NOT require much cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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***** TRIVIA *****
Doing just a basic, simple, Google search, I could NOT find much historical information
on, or many items pertaining to, the FIRST NATIONAL BANK, MOUNDSVILLE, WEST VIRGINIA.
The few items that I did find, are the items in the last three pictures posted below.
They are NOT my items. They are NOT my pictures.
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Barrel Bank. Circa ?
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Moundsville, West Virginia, $20 T-1 National Bank Note. Circa 1929.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
Moundsville, West Virginia, $20 T-1 National Bank Note. Circa 1929.
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First Aid And Sewing Kit. Circa 1970's-1980's.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
First Aid And Sewing Kit. Circa 1970's-1980's.
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I like when the advertising has the year with it, nice Skip ::tu::
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Another good one, Skip! You come up with some great pieces, thanks for posting them.
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Miller Bro's wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:18 am I.....
Thank you, Dimitri.🍻
I like it when there is a year on these "W & H" pocket knives.
I can start to match the years with the different tang stamp styles.

Waukonda wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:02 am Another.....
Thank you, Ike. 🍻
And thank you for looking at them.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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This morning, my visit to the post office produced this advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. It now becomes my most recent example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the most recent example to be added to my collection. It is a ROBESON, one blade, one tang stamp, 3" closed, all metal, advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "ROBESON (over) ShurEdge (written & underlined) (over) U.S.A." The main handle side says, "COMPLIMENTS OF - FREDERICK D. GARDNER" It also says "Patented" above the loop or ring. The other handle side says nothing, it is blank. This is my first ROBESON, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife, that advertises this particular company, business, product, event, etc. This is my fifth ROBESON pocket knife posted under this topic or thread. However, this is only my third ROBESON pocket knife in this particular pattern or style. It is another piece of evidence linking Whitehead & Hoag to ROBESON. Overall, this is my twentieth advertising, fob or key ring pocket knife, that is this particular pattern or style. Nine HAVE a W & H tang stamp and eleven DO NOT HAVE a W & H tang stamp. My other nineteen advertising, fob or key ring pocket knives, in this particular pattern or style, have ALL been previously posted under and throughout this topic or thread. The main blade appears to have suffered some blade loss. The main blade does NOT have a half stop. The main blade does NOT have an opening snap. The main blade does NOT have a closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is in GOOD condition. It did NOT need any cleaning at all. I just wiped it off. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

***** Here is the most recent, up to date list, of the cutlery companies that possibly made,
or possibly had a hand in the manufacturing of, pocket knives for Whitehead & Hoag. *****

H. BOKER (U.S.A.) - No Hard Evidence (So Far).
CATTARAUGUS CUTLERY COMPANY - No Hard Evidence (So Far).
HARRISON BROS & HOWSON - Slight Chance Of Involvement.
L. F. & C. - 99.999% Sure Of Involvement.
MERIDEN - Slight Chance Of Involvement.
W. H. MORLEY & SONS, GERMANY - 99.999% Sure Of Involvement.
NOVCO - 99.999% Sure Of Involvement.
REMINGTON UMC - No Hard Evidence (So Far).
ROBESON - 99.999% Sure Of Involvement.
E. C. SIMMONS KEEN KUTTER - No Hard Evidence (So Far).
VALLEY FORGE - 99.999% Sure Of Involvement.
VOOS - 99.999% Sure Of Involvement.

***** TRIVIA *****
Doing just a simple, basic, Google search, produced a lot of
information and a lot of items pertaining to FREDERICK D. GARDNER.
Now, if it is the same FREDERICK D. GARDNER that is the subject of this pocket knife, then.....
Per Wikipedia.....
"Frederick Dozier Gardner (November 6, 1869 – December 18, 1933), an American businessman and politician from St. Louis, Missouri, served as the 34th Governor of Missouri from 1917 to 1921. Gardner was born in Hickman, Kentucky; his father was William H. Gardner. He rose to prominence in St. Louis. The only political office he ever sought was a single term as governor, and he narrowly won the election of 1916. However, he did later attend national conventions of the Democratic Party. As Governor of Missouri he oversaw the elimination of the state's debt; it was $2,250,000 when he took office, but the state had over $3,500,000 in the treasury at the end of his term. In addition to his political career, Gardner spent 47 years in the funeral industry both as a funeral director and supplier, starting his career as an office boy. He worked for the Ellis Undertaking Co., M. Hermann & Son Livery & Undertaking, and the Southern Undertaking Co., all located in St. Louis. He eventually owned the St. Louis Coffin Co., and served as its president. He was also vice president of Gardner Motor Co. which operated in St. Louis from 1920 to 1932 and manufactured hearses and ambulances. He also operated casket manufacturing plants in Memphis, Tennessee; Texarkana, Arkansas; and Dallas, Texas. He married Jeannette Vosburgh in 1894 and they had four children: William King, Dozier, Lee, and Janet Gardner. He was also a Freemason belonging to the historic Tuscan Lodge #360 Masonic Temple. He died December 18, 1933, in St. Louis, from an infection of the jaw. He was buried in the Bellefontaine Cemetery there with full Masonic rites."
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
Top - Frederick D. Gardner. Circa ?<br />Bottom - The St. Louis Coffin Company. Circa 1898.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
Top - Frederick D. Gardner. Circa ?
Bottom - The St. Louis Coffin Company. Circa 1898.
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A Large Serving Tray. Circa 1904.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
A Large Serving Tray. Circa 1904.
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A Bill And Letterhead. Circa 1909.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
A Bill And Letterhead. Circa 1909.
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Top - A Wagon. Circa 1910.<br />Bottom - A Bootlegger's Cane. Circa 1916.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
Top - A Wagon. Circa 1910.
Bottom - A Bootlegger's Cane. Circa 1916.
NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
An Election Ad. Circa 1916.<br />NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
An Election Ad. Circa 1916.
NOT My Item(s). NOT My Picture(s).
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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Thank you for this post, Skip, some great history there. Gardner was a major figure in early 20th century St Louis, and that is a great addition to your collection. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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Waukonda wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 3:29 am Thank.....
Thank you, Ike. 🍻
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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Well Skip as usual your post is very interesting. The ads and info you add really are informative.
The bootleggers cane is cool as heck. Never seen that before and now have to research them . Used to collect canes so that got my attention.
Wonder did he really put ads in coffins for his business.
Great stuff . Thank you for taking the time to post .
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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Ripster wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 1:50 pm Well.....
Thank you, JP.🍻
Posting these pocket knives and information is a joy.
Google Vintage St. Louis Coffin Company. You will
see links to a bootlegger's cane being appraised on
Antiques Roadshow. I did NOT watch it.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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Recently, my trip to the post office produced this advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the latest example to be added to my collection. It is a W & H, one blade, one tang stamp, 3" closed, all metal, advertising, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. It has the curved or arched style of tang stamp, WITH the USA in the center. The main blade front tang stamp says, "THE W. & H. CO. (over) U.S.A. (over) NEWARK, N.J." The main handle side says, "THE WHITEHEAD & HOAG CO. - ADVERTISNG SPECIALTIES - NEWARK, N.J." The other handle side says nothing, it is blank. This is my twelfth W & H, fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife, that advertises this particular company, business, product, event, etc. However, this is only my first W & H, fob or key ring pocket knife, that is in THIS particular pattern or style, that is advertising this particular company, business, product, event, etc. My other eleven W & H, fob or key ring pocket knives (nine in one style and two in another, different style), have ALL been previously posted by me, under and throughout, this topic or thread. Overall, this is my twenty-first advertising, fob or key ring pocket knife, that is this particular pattern or style. Ten HAVE a W & H tang stamp and eleven DO NOT HAVE a W & H tang stamp. My other twenty advertising, fob or key ring pocket knives, in this particular pattern or style, have ALL been previously posted by me, under and throughout, this topic or thread. The main blade does have a WEAK half stop. The main blade does have a GOOD opening snap. The main blade does have a GOOD closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is in VERY GOOD condition. This pocket knife did NOT require any cleaning at all. I just wiped it off. I took some pictures and here it is. The VERY LAST picture, number six, shows THIS pocket knife, along with just two examples of the other patterns or styles of pocket knives that are advertising "THE WHITEHEAD & HOAG COMPANY."
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.

***** TRIVIA *****
There is PLENTY of information, and there are PLENTY of images to be found on the internet,
regarding The Whitehead & Hoag Company itself and the variety of advertising items that were available.
However, as far as the W & H advertising pocket knives are concerned, per GOINS 1998 edition..... "c 1870-1959
Whitehead & Hoag was founded in 1870. They went out of business about 1959. This was an advertising specialties firm;
the knives were made for them by a variety of cutlery manufacturers." I have been thinking, for some time now,
that GOINS may NOT be entirely, 100% accurate in their description. Again, I do have a theory about this,
but I still have no hard evidence to support it. NOT YET anyway. Hopefully there will be more clues to follow.....
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
Top Pocket Knife - I Have Nine Of These In THIS Style.<br />Middle Pocket Knife - I Have Two Of These In THIS Style.<br />Bottom Pocket Knife - I Have Only One Of These In THIS Style (So Far).<br />ALL Twelve Have The W &amp; H Tang Stamp.
Top Pocket Knife - I Have Nine Of These In THIS Style.
Middle Pocket Knife - I Have Two Of These In THIS Style.
Bottom Pocket Knife - I Have Only One Of These In THIS Style (So Far).
ALL Twelve Have The W & H Tang Stamp.
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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I found this "W & H" advertisng pocket knife by accident and too late.::dang:: 😡
I am posting this "W & H" advertising pocket knife for future reference.
The main handle side says,
"BARRY-WEHMILLER MACHINERY CO.
ST. LOUIS, MO.
BOTTLING MACHINERY."
The other handle side says,
"NATIONAL SYSTEM" with various machinery images.
This advertising pocket knife is NOT mine. The picture(s) are NOT mine.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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***** If The New Owner Wishes To Part With It, PLEASE PM ME! I Am Definitely NOT A CHEAPSKATE. *****
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That was a really nice one Skip :shock:
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Re: THE W & H CO + USA + NEWARK NJ = Whitehead & Hoag.

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Miller Bro's wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:33 pm That.....
Yes it was, Dimitri. I didn't take the loss very well.
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