U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

[Iron Hoarder]

A WWI Schatt & Morgan. Supposedly made for the Canadian troops. Its really nice aside from some pitting and the fact the antiques dealer buffed it. I told him not to ever do that again. I don't care what it looks like. The scales are perfect and it appears hardly used.

[Miller Bro's]

[Old Hunter]

Finally got around to taking a picture of my American Fork and Hoe (AFH) M-1 bayonet and scabbard. This one fits on a M-1 Garand, 03-A3, or M1903 Springfield.

[jerryd6818]

Got these in a trade with Iron Hoarder. British but I don't know if they're Army or Navy. Both are 1943. If anyone can decode the stamps on the back of the blade of the second knife (last picture), I would be most appreciative.

[gew8805]

Jerry, Iron Hoarder let you have a couple of good ones. The first is, obviously, made by Johnson, Western Works, not a common maker. The second was made by J. Rodgers and Son of Sheffield as indicated by the asterisk and Maltese Cross stamps. Rodgers made many knives for both the Army and the Royal Navy. These are Army pattern knives though some may have been issued to the R.N. The Navy pattern knife was larger with alzak (sp?) scales and only a sheep's foot blade and spike.

[jerryd6818]

Thank you very much for that information. Always good to know the details.

[tank]

I finally got a 225Q. Wish the sheath was better.

[junebug]

well the other day i was readin this thread then left to the swap meet a town over in hanford....and what did i walk onto???? a MINT williams cutlery co. knife and sheath...sheath has some dings from layin around it looks like but knife is sweet!!! looks to be never sharpened???? thanks for showin yours guys....or i would have passed on it!!

[Miller Bro's]

Nice find


Makes my knife look sick

[Iron Hoarder]

Lucky devil!

[Mossdancer]

junebug
Great catch, you guys most be in a continual slow roast down there. Got to 103 on my front deck a couple of weeks ago you could hear squealing from every corner of town. Only gets over 90 about once every ten years.
moss

[junebug]

THANX GUYS!!!
yep moss.....hotter than 700 hells!!!! 99 today....cooling trend ..lol....from 110 for last 2 weeks

guy has several more knives....yet money tight here....i got that for $20 and am goin back monday for a clauss he said he would take $20 on....if still there

NEVER HAD LESS.....AND ENJOYED IT MORE....LOL


JUNEBUG

[Riley]

I have a Bolo S A 1912 do you have any idea where I might get a set of handles for it.

[Mossdancer]

Hello Riley:
With or without Handles why don't you show us some photos of your solo and sheath and even the S guard if it is still there.
moss

[1967redrider]

Can I sneak in a German Puma bayonet with frog and an Anton Wingen Hitler Youth knife? The bayonet & scabbard are original but the frog is reproduction. From what I have read, the bayonet is a German Police Dress Bayonet, not sure about its age.

[gringo]

Lauterjung & Sohn (Puma werk), Solingen

the nazi police bayonete came in several styles, with or without bayonete lug...polised, plated...ect...

is there an RZM mark on that blade...or the youth knife?

[1967redrider]

I finally found one of my Holy Grail knives, courtesy of the National Gun Show at Dulles.

A little about the knife, it's a L.F. & C. US Mark I trench knife with scabbard and belt hooks intact and a decent patina. Lots of times the prongs got broken off the scabbard as there are just 2 little rivets holding each one on. The handle is actually cast bronze, has a double edged blade with a "nut cracker" pommel screw holding it together. The scabbard is crimped metal that is copper coated. Then the whole knife is chemically treated (on this particular version) so the blacker they are the less they have been handled. There are 3 other makers of this trench knife; Au Lion, Henry Disston & Sons and Oneida Community Ltd., but these came with a polished finish.

From what I've read, this knife gets credited for use in WW I, due to the 1918 handle stamp, but most weren't issued until WW II, with the Au Lion being the earliest one made for our Dough Boys in France.

If knives could talk, I'd love to hear the stories this one could tell.

[1967redrider]

Stopped by the local military surplus store yesterday and found this mate for my Trench, a WW1 canvas cartridge belt in pretty near mint condition. All of the snaps and pouches are perfect, just a little oxidation on some of the metal eyelets. I was really stoked to come across this find!

[Miller Bro's]

Congratulations!

It is nice to find something you have been looking for

[1967redrider]

So true, so true. Thanks!

[Mossdancer]

I really hate to be stupid but what ammo did it carry,
moss

[1967redrider]

.30 cal maybe? The pouches are about 4" deep.

[coffeecup]

The belt was used in WWI to carry "Ball, M1906" cartridges (the early version, w/150 flat-based bullets jacketed in cupro-nickel, not the later interwars-developed "Ball, M1" w/173gr boattail, or the "Ball, M2" used in WWII), carried in 5 round stripper clips.

By the production/issue numbers, the wearer would have most-likely been carrying a 1917 Enfield and M1917 bayonet, but could have been carrying a 1903 Springfield or 1903 Mk I, along with a M1905 bayonet. (And I guess that tells how I think it would be best-displayed!)

Jim

[1967redrider]

Great info, thanks Jim.

-John

[Miller Bro's]

Some Camillus WWII folders