Chinese Marble

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Chinese Marble

Post by terryl308 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:43 pm

had to swallow my pride and buy a Chinese made Marble folding hunter. I have to say it seems to be pretty darn good. It has really nice fitting jig bone handles. That makes two I own, I already bought a jumbo trapper a few years back that has the same quality bone and they both have a nice zippered pouch. I guess what attracted me to them is the price and appearance. I paid about $20 for each of them. I'm not sure of the steel cause I haven't used either one yet. But they look as good or better than most USA made knives. Probably will never be a collectable however, I still like the made in the usa stamp on my knives. ::handshake:: Terry
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by philco » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:41 pm

I bought an e-toe made up very similar to your knife here a few years back. It looks very nice, quite similar to yours as far as handle material, fit and finish, etc. Like you I have never put it to work and doubt seriously I ever will, so I can't attest to it's durability. I found it to be very similar to some Colt brand knives I have, and suspect they may well come from the same factory.
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by jerryd6818 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:48 pm

In my opinion (very slim on experience) the Marbles are second only to the Colts in quality for the Pacific Rim made knives. I carried a Marbles doctors knife until TSA stole it. Worked very well for me.
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by terryl308 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:45 pm

::tu:: Jerryd and Philco, thanks for the comments, sorry for the terrible photo's, I took them is am in the bright Ne. sunlight but in the shade. They got kind of "washed out". I also carry a Robt. Klass Kissing Crane trapper, it doesn't say a word about Germany, just Rostfrie and stainless, so I know it is an import but not bad quality. The only thing wrong with it is I dropped it on my shop floor and the shield fell off, but a little super glue and it's as good as when it got on the boat from the Pacific Rim! It's my trial knife and so far so good. Nice yellow delrin type scales. ::shrug:: Terry
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by Dinadan » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:06 pm

Terry - I have one Chinese Marbles knife. Mine has good fit and finish also. One thing I find interesting is that the stag jigging on mine, and on yours also I think, is not just similar on each cover, but an identical carving on each side.
philco wrote:I bought an e-toe made up very similar to your knife here a few years back. It looks very nice, quite similar to yours as far as handle material, fit and finish, etc. Like you I have never put it to work and doubt seriously I ever will, so I can't attest to it's durability. I found it to be very similar to some Colt brand knives I have, and suspect they may well come from the same factory.
Phil - I have wondered about the Chinese factory situation. Like you say some of the knives by different companies look a lot alike. I figure it is like Bulldog and Fight'n Rooster both made in the same place by the same people. Or maybe like in America where, if I understand correctly, various companies like Camillus and Schrade used to sub out orders to each other when things were busy.
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Post by kootenay joe » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:29 am

I used a Rough Rider Jumbo Trapper to field dress a nice Whitetail buck a few years back. It was the slickest easiest field dress i ever did. From start to finish just had to touch the tissues with the blade edge and a clean cut appeared, no force needed. Would still shave my arm hair even after amputating all 4 lower limbs.
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by Kloe's human » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:32 pm

So what happened to Marbles being made in the US? Are all the new ones being made in China now?

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by jerryd6818 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:10 pm

I'm about 99% sure they all are, fixed blade and folders. I have a couple of fixed blades from the turn of the millennia that were made in Gladstone but I think they were the last of the line made in the U.S. Sad, isn't it?
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by bighomer » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:31 pm

My Marbles, hope I don't lose'em ::nod:: :lol:
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by deltaboy » Tue May 29, 2018 2:31 am

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by deltaboy » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:15 am

Carried it and it really nice!
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by cody6268 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:37 pm

Kloe's human wrote:So what happened to Marbles being made in the US? Are all the new ones being made in China now?
I think there are a few hatchets, one made in Canada, and I think they might have some made in El Salvador, but that's probably all that's not made in China.

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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by TwoFlowersLuggage » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:31 pm

Mel - I'm pretty sure the Chinese knife factories are just like all the rest of the Chinese manufacturing plants in other industries - they are typically not owned by the brand - they are contract factories that will make for anyone with a set of specs. They might have some in-house designers and "stock" products that they can put anyone's logo on, or the customer might start with a stock design and ask for changes and tweaks, or the in-house designers might create entirely new products for a customer, or the customer might come to the factory with a complete set of specs and the factory just builds to those specs. All are possible and common in the industries I know about.

It is also not unusual for a successful contract manufacturer to eventually decide they have the chops to sell products under their own brand name. That's risky because now they are competing against their own customers, and there is a big difference in the cost of support between being a contract manufacturer and actually doing wholesale or retail sales.

It is really hard to tell what brands are just importers, which are designers & importers, and which actually own designs and the factories.

At the end of the day, I'm not sure it matters anymore. I think we just have to evaluate the products for what they are - regardless of how they were produced or who produced them.
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by jerryd6818 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:05 pm

TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Mel - I'm pretty sure the Chinese knife factories are just like all the rest of the Chinese manufacturing plants in other industries - they are typically not owned by the brand - they are contract factories that will make for anyone with a set of specs. They might have some in-house designers and "stock" products that they can put anyone's logo on, or the customer might start with a stock design and ask for changes and tweaks, or the in-house designers might create entirely new products for a customer, or the customer might come to the factory with a complete set of specs and the factory just builds to those specs. All are possible and common in the industries I know about.

It is also not unusual for a successful contract manufacturer to eventually decide they have the chops to sell products under their own brand name. That's risky because now they are competing against their own customers, and there is a big difference in the cost of support between being a contract manufacturer and actually doing wholesale or retail sales.

It is really hard to tell what brands are just importers, which are designers & importers, and which actually own designs and the factories.

At the end of the day, I'm not sure it matters anymore. I think we just have to evaluate the products for what they are - regardless of how they were produced or who produced them.
As a consumer, the risk you run here is the Brand decides to switch vendors (for what ever reason) and the new vendor doesn't make the product as well as the old vendor. It's all a crap shoot.
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Re: Chinese Marble

Post by TwoFlowersLuggage » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:20 am

Yup - that happens, and the real cause is that the importer didn't care enough to ensure the new manufacturer was producing acceptable quality products. When Jim Frost buys a good brand name and then puts that name on cheap junk from Pakistan, I don't blame the factory in Pakistan - I blame the guy in Tennessee that ordered them to make the cheap junk!
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