Tariff Hearings from the old days

[PA Knives]

check out this transcript from the tariff hearings of 1921. If you like knife history, you will love this. the conversation with Mr. Rockwell about the old big names in knife production is great. The Germans were giving us a run for our money that is for sure.

Click on this link

http://books.google.com/books?id=T7AkwG ... -PA1651,M1


Check this out as well from the 1908-09. The practice of wiping off the Made In GERMANY on knives. And look who supposedly did it???? this is from the Walden Knife group that is voiceing its concern. LT, I am sure you can ad to this subject as well.


I found it VERY interesting.

http://books.google.com/books?id=5HhJAA ... PPA2153,M1

[miked32]

i found all of this very interesting..

[lt632ret]

Actually I am not even bright enough to really figure how to easily access that However I did finally get to at least get my machine to get to some of the pages. Regarding the fugazzy ( NY word for not quite kosher) procedure for electro etching to hide place of manufacture, this is still being done to day ( Legal???) . I have a pearl handled Remington canoe I recently bought to have scrimed with a paddle wheeler and the words River card gambler ( I forget exactly I will try to dig it out ). OK I found it. Now notice the big pretty REMINGTON on the blade, The electo etched Remington tang logo and let us not forget the tiny little electro China on the blade . I left it on ( Getting it off is a simple rub) but i wanted to just to show this very fact if it ever came up. Ok so what is the point. Simply that business is business and always has been . If they can circumvent or for that matter lie cheat or steal and get away with it, they will the one undeniable certainty in our universe is that human nature never changes. What was true then is true now only the players are different. and much more adept. Schrade was importing foreign parts and assembling them here before they closed. I believe Camillus also had similar practices I know I have a Camillus heat made in China, It was one of the factors that brought Schrade down. This country never supports tarriffs for long Americans will buy from there worst enemy if the item is a buck cheaper. They will become partners with them and shill there products. We constantly forget the lessons learned and because usually in the past we have managed to win the battles and wars this inevetably leads to.

The Germans indeed gave us a run for the money as did the Japanese it was called World War II when the planes that nefariously bombed Pearl Harbor were made by the same company that Americans now buy cars from ( MITSUBISHI ) we rebuilt them and they are our buddys. The Chinese with our help are becoming a voracious economic power. But I forget they are our buddies. They will be our buddies until they eat us. I am sure the Chinese ethic of compassion will save us. No nothing is changed . I read these transcripts and am in awe that the amount of rhetoric and partisan bullshit regarding our laws and practices. Amazingly was as screwed up and self serving then, as it is now.

Schrade had some knives made in Germany ( In the very early years ) this is an extremely rare stamp. In fact I have never seen one in person just pics. However due to production costs and the cutlers needed ( Razor cutlers were considered the elite of the trade and revered as the most skilled of knife craftsmen). Schrade did have some of there barber Straight razors produced in Germany. Most Schrade Razors will carry on the obverse of the Schrade Cutlery Company tang a 3 digit number followed by the letter S. German models simply had the word Germany stamped on the obverse side. The most popular model of this razor was the Celluloid multi colored standing Crane. Which I have alway felt was chosen since these birds were and still often seen on the Wallkill river which runs through Walden ( where the original factory was).

I could bore you with the history of the Knife tariffs and the parts Mckinley and Bradley and a host of others played in this saga. However why bother no one will remember or care until that is, when we are pulling in our belts and we are the ones begging for rice on the street.

Now aren't you glad you asked if I had any comments to add. LT

[PA Knives]

LT,

As I suspected you were "UP" on the subject. I am disappointed that others do not study these items more closely as they help a lot with dating knives. although I do enjoy knife history (like you) more than most

[orvet]

I could bore you with the history of the Knife tariffs and the parts Mckinley and Bradley and a host of others played in this saga. However why bother no one will remember or care until that is, when we are pulling in our belts and we are the ones begging for rice on the street.

Great history lesson LT.
Perhaps American businesses should take a few "Business History" classes. It would be in their best interests to know what had worked in the past & what had not worked.

People seem to forget that tariffs were put in place historically for good reasons; to protect American business interests and to keep certain technologies out of the hands of those who might use it against us, among other reasons.

In this day of revisionist history, the text books our children use often spin history to the point that the original story is nearly unrecognizable. My granddaughter came home from school, and was telling us what she had learned about Lewis & Clark. The way she told the story it, Sacagawea was the main character and Lewis & Clark were her assistants.

In the day of the “global economy,” tariffs are not politically correct. We seem to forget that they do have a purpose and have been used quite effectively in the past. Because we don’t have a clear view of history because of spin, or because we just forget, we may have to make the same mistakes repeatedly.

One of the saddest illustrations of forgetting history was at Jonestown in Guyana. Someone took a picture of the scene after the mass suicide of the cult members. Bodies littered the ground around a podium, where there was a poster with a quote from George Santayana prominently displayed. It said, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ­
Even with such a poignant reminder, they still followed a mad man to their doom.

It is a shame that politicians put the intests of their parties ahead of the intrest of the nation.

Just my morose morning musings,
Dale

[relodr36]

In this day of revisionist history, the text books our children use often spin history to the point that the original story is nearly unrecognizable. My granddaughter came home from school, and was telling us what she had learned about Lewis & Clark. The way she told the story it, Sacagawea was the main character and Lewis & Clark were her assistants.

In the day of the “global economy,” tariffs are not politically correct. We seem to forget that they do have a purpose and have been used quite effectively in the past. Because we don’t have a clear view of history because of spin, or because we just forget, we may have to make the same mistakes repeatedly.


It is a shame that politicians put the intests of their parties ahead of the intrest of the nation.

Just my morose morning musings,
Dale

Yes,I used to wonder why most of the old geezers were grouchy and always bitching about the establishment and the younger generation's tendency to ignore past history and the lessons learned.
Now,I'm one of those grouchy old farts who detest the greed,ignorance,and gullibility of most of today's populace.
Relodr