Old and Obscure Brands
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Another rather obscure brand on this 3 1/4" advertiser jack. B & B St. P MN USA = Brown and Bigelow, St. Paul, Minnesota. The Cargill on the handle is a HUGE ag business in the Twin Cities.
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Cargill is huge everywhere.
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Doesn't Levine mention that brand in one of his earlier editions?peanut740 wrote:Your knife was made by Phoenix Knife Co. Chatillon owned it until it burned down in 1917.I have had that pattern marked like yours and Phoenix.Great pattern.bladebuddy wrote:Here is a tang stamp I've not seen before.
JOHN
CHATILLON
& sons NY
I think it is a moose pattern with smooth bone handles and steel liners and bolsters. Clip side bolster is larger than the Spey side. 4 1/4" long closed. Still snaps like a gator. Anybody else have one or information about the company? I think they made scales for weighing but not sure what else. Thanks Steve B.
PS. Sorry for the fuzzy pictures. Gotta get a real camera.
Sure are some incredible pieces of history in this thread of old and obscure.
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Spotted this knife in a grouping on Ebay. They are still for sale.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-7-Antiq ... SwKvJavpBh
This beautiful knife, unfortunately, has a broken pen blade.
Cocobola handles, I think. Nice bar shield.
Tangs are stamped QUAKER CITY / CUTLERY / CO. with a representative William Penn like Quaker logo on the back of both tangs.
Goins says circa 1886 to 1935 and a trademark of H. DISSTON.
SMITH & SELTZER was the exclusive agent for the brand.
I think that is a great knife.
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Charlie Noyes
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-7-Antiq ... SwKvJavpBh
This beautiful knife, unfortunately, has a broken pen blade.
Cocobola handles, I think. Nice bar shield.
Tangs are stamped QUAKER CITY / CUTLERY / CO. with a representative William Penn like Quaker logo on the back of both tangs.
Goins says circa 1886 to 1935 and a trademark of H. DISSTON.
SMITH & SELTZER was the exclusive agent for the brand.
I think that is a great knife.
Photos should expand with a left click.
Charlie Noyes
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This knife has no tang stamps. The only mention of the maker is stamped on the main blade. 3 1/2" closed.
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That's a real nice one, Joe. I have not seen one like that.
I picked up this 3" MOP pen at our local flea market because I had not seen the tang stamp before. It is marked on the front of the tang "Adolf Blaich, San Francisco, Razor Steel", and on the back of the tang "J. S. Holler, Germany". Blaich was in business from 1885-1954, and Holler from 1867-1906, so this must be pre 1906?
I picked up this 3" MOP pen at our local flea market because I had not seen the tang stamp before. It is marked on the front of the tang "Adolf Blaich, San Francisco, Razor Steel", and on the back of the tang "J. S. Holler, Germany". Blaich was in business from 1885-1954, and Holler from 1867-1906, so this must be pre 1906?
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Very cool!FRJ wrote:This knife has no tang stamps. The only mention of the maker is stamped on the main blade. 3 1/2" closed.
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Thank you, Eustace.
And thank you for that informative name and stamp.
That will be very helpful for future searches.
And thank you for that informative name and stamp.
That will be very helpful for future searches.
Joe
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While looking through some folding toothpicks and fish knives to find one made in New York state I found one.
But where in New York state I have no idea and neither does Goin's. I was hoping to find one to place it in the "Little Sheffield"
thread.
This stamp reads; A.A. Fisher Co., N.Y.
Goin's gives one date - 1919
Slowly approaching the one hundred year mark makes it old
and since we don't know how long they were in business (1 year?) I'm going with obscure.
So, old and obscure.
A very solid and well built knife with composition handles that have shrunk slightly a long time ago.
Thanks for looking.
But where in New York state I have no idea and neither does Goin's. I was hoping to find one to place it in the "Little Sheffield"
thread.
This stamp reads; A.A. Fisher Co., N.Y.
Goin's gives one date - 1919
Slowly approaching the one hundred year mark makes it old
and since we don't know how long they were in business (1 year?) I'm going with obscure.
So, old and obscure.
A very solid and well built knife with composition handles that have shrunk slightly a long time ago.
Thanks for looking.
Joe
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Very nice Joe, I have never seen that maker before, that's what I like about it, thanks for sharing!!!
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I've had this Wade Bros, Celebrated Cutlery knife for some time now. I have always been meaning to post some pictures and I'm looking for your opinion on what type of wooden scales these are? I'm guessing Cocobolo???
This is the condition I received this knife in, minus rust that I carefully removed. Half-stops on the smaller blades but not the main, tang stamps on each blade, brass wedge between the springs as typical on whittlers and long match-striker pulls on each blade.
Including a picture from Goins book to explain how this German maker tried to pose as British, which rallied the cause for "Country of Origin" legislation here in the U.S. Interesting how some modern knife makers TODAY are still trying to label their knives as "Made in _____ " through deceitful practices to avoid stigma and increase sales/profits.
This is the condition I received this knife in, minus rust that I carefully removed. Half-stops on the smaller blades but not the main, tang stamps on each blade, brass wedge between the springs as typical on whittlers and long match-striker pulls on each blade.
Including a picture from Goins book to explain how this German maker tried to pose as British, which rallied the cause for "Country of Origin" legislation here in the U.S. Interesting how some modern knife makers TODAY are still trying to label their knives as "Made in _____ " through deceitful practices to avoid stigma and increase sales/profits.
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A few of mine that I think fall into this category.
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Not sure exactly how old it is but its a brand that has been seldom to come acros for me atleast.
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This pretty little penknife has silver or german silver side plates showing roses and sunflowers. The wear suggests it must have been much loved and a broken blade has been carefully trimmed. The style suggests German origin to me but the only mark is the word, in capitals, HAKE. I found it in a French flea market, h
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Nice old knife Joe.
Stamps not seen much Micheal. I have a Jordan farmers jack below,which I think is the same company as your Jordan.
Old one optimist.
I found this very interesting John and did a little research a few years back . Here is an exert from the 1891 "Tariff Review" that is pertinent:
https://books.google.com/books?id=gcQ7A ... ia&f=false
Stamps not seen much Micheal. I have a Jordan farmers jack below,which I think is the same company as your Jordan.
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Hello buddy1967redrider wrote:I've had this Wade Bros, Celebrated Cutlery knife for some time now. I have always been meaning to post some pictures and I'm looking for your opinion on what type of wooden scales these are? I'm guessing Cocobolo???
This is the condition I received this knife in, minus rust that I carefully removed. Half-stops on the smaller blades but not the main, tang stamps on each blade, brass wedge between the springs as typical on whittlers and long match-striker pulls on each blade.
Including a picture from Goins book to explain how this German maker tried to pose as British, which rallied the cause for "Country of Origin" legislation here in the U.S. Interesting how some modern knife makers TODAY are still trying to label their knives as "Made in _____ " through deceitful practices to avoid stigma and increase sales/profits.
I found this very interesting John and did a little research a few years back . Here is an exert from the 1891 "Tariff Review" that is pertinent:
https://books.google.com/books?id=gcQ7A ... ia&f=false
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Cool link and awesome knife, Lyle!
Pocket, fixed, machete, axe, it's all good!
You're going to look awfully silly with that knife sticking out of your @#$. -Clint Eastwood, High Plains Drifter
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Beautiful knife Lyle.
It's a perfect example of what leads us down the path to be "Collectors"
It's a perfect example of what leads us down the path to be "Collectors"
It's always important to know what you don't know.
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Love everything about that Jordan!
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The knife has been buffed to death and I believe reprofiled, one of the first farmers jacks I acquired.
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Pretty obscure brand have only seen a few of these through the years.
Binghamton Cutlery, town is in upstate NY. Heavy dogleg has great action on both blades.
Binghamton Cutlery, town is in upstate NY. Heavy dogleg has great action on both blades.
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I posted this on in the Mail Call yesterday and just realized it probably would be considered an old and obscure knife, a STAINLESS SUPREME.
I dressed up the edge with my Lansky and I'm pleased with this unusual spay bladed knife. Treefarmer
I dressed up the edge with my Lansky and I'm pleased with this unusual spay bladed knife. Treefarmer
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