Thanks Joe!FRJ wrote:Great knife, Greg and a bit of good history too. Good post!
Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
- gsmith7158
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 8548
- Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:25 pm
- Location: Canton, Ga. 100% of the time
- Contact:
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
------------------
Greg
IF YOU AIN'T BUYING OR LOOKING AT A KNIFE THEN YOU AIN'T LIVING.
Always looking to buy good quality Empire knives.
PROUD MEMBER AAPK, NRA.
Greg
IF YOU AIN'T BUYING OR LOOKING AT A KNIFE THEN YOU AIN'T LIVING.
Always looking to buy good quality Empire knives.
PROUD MEMBER AAPK, NRA.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=19895&start=405#p532596FRJ wrote:I have this nice old German pruner.
A little scruff on the handle, (all my knives have some scruff) but unique in style.
4 3/4"
Very strong knife.
Hi, Joe!
The knife shown is not German, but Russian. Produced in a factory "Складние ножи" CH (Folging Knives") in Vorsma. The same model is produced for Army Medical kits - designed to safely cut bandages.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Thank you very much, Eustace. I am getting schooled today. The second lesson for me today.
That is a great old knife and it makes sense that it would be used for that purpose. Safely cutting bandages.
Strong spring on that one. I will look for "Vorsma".
I very much appreciate the post.
That is a great old knife and it makes sense that it would be used for that purpose. Safely cutting bandages.
Strong spring on that one. I will look for "Vorsma".
I very much appreciate the post.
Joe
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Welcome, Joe! I'm glad I can help.
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
That's quite the knife Greg!!! The condition and the history,my kinda knife thanks for sharing.gsmith7158 wrote:Here's one I saw on ebay that I found pretty interesting so I bought it. After all how often do you get to buy a 110 year old knife in pretty good shape. The knife is stamped Friedmann & Lauterjung which was an importer in New York from 1864-1909 and is the firm where JBF Champlin got his start in the knife business. This is the firm that eventually gave rise to The Electric Cutlery Co.The seller described it as a sailors rigging knife, but it looks more like a good sized pruner to me.
Bill
- gsmith7158
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 8548
- Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:25 pm
- Location: Canton, Ga. 100% of the time
- Contact:
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Thanks Bill! I really enjoy finding old gems like that. It's probably a pre 1890 knife since it has no country of origin stamped on the tang. I have one of the old Electrics that they sold as well but boy they sure are hard to come by. It's pretty exciting to find one!BWT wrote:That's quite the knife Greg!!! The condition and the history,my kinda knife thanks for sharing.gsmith7158 wrote:Here's one I saw on ebay that I found pretty interesting so I bought it. After all how often do you get to buy a 110 year old knife in pretty good shape. The knife is stamped Friedmann & Lauterjung which was an importer in New York from 1864-1909 and is the firm where JBF Champlin got his start in the knife business. This is the firm that eventually gave rise to The Electric Cutlery Co.The seller described it as a sailors rigging knife, but it looks more like a good sized pruner to me.
------------------
Greg
IF YOU AIN'T BUYING OR LOOKING AT A KNIFE THEN YOU AIN'T LIVING.
Always looking to buy good quality Empire knives.
PROUD MEMBER AAPK, NRA.
Greg
IF YOU AIN'T BUYING OR LOOKING AT A KNIFE THEN YOU AIN'T LIVING.
Always looking to buy good quality Empire knives.
PROUD MEMBER AAPK, NRA.
- Miller Bro's
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 11618
- Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:22 pm
- Location: Earth
- gsmith7158
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 8548
- Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 7:25 pm
- Location: Canton, Ga. 100% of the time
- Contact:
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Thanks Dimitri! I nearly dropped my phone when that one popped up in my saved searches.Miller Bro's wrote:That's a rare one Greg!
------------------
Greg
IF YOU AIN'T BUYING OR LOOKING AT A KNIFE THEN YOU AIN'T LIVING.
Always looking to buy good quality Empire knives.
PROUD MEMBER AAPK, NRA.
Greg
IF YOU AIN'T BUYING OR LOOKING AT A KNIFE THEN YOU AIN'T LIVING.
Always looking to buy good quality Empire knives.
PROUD MEMBER AAPK, NRA.
- Miller Bro's
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 11618
- Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:22 pm
- Location: Earth
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
I bet!
Might as well throw this one in here............
Might as well throw this one in here............
AAPK Janitor
369
369
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Nice pruner Dimitri - love the handles ..
Here's one I posted under the Parker & Field thread as a related knife to the discussion but it belongs here - I also included some more detailed info on Haywood...
Joseph Haywood & Compy (Ca. 1845-1888) … Joseph Haywood born in 1823 in Sheffield. He apprenticed with Robert Sorby & Co Sheffield (merchant and edge tool manufacturer) and eventually took over the cutlery of his uncle, George Willis Hinchliffe, (known bowie and pocket knife maker) in 1850 following Hinchliffe’s death. Prior to 1850, Haywood was lisetd as a merchant clerk on Eyre St In addition to the trademark of "Hinchliffe", which was continued even under Joseph Haywood, Haywood was granted the “kettle” trademark in 1860 (see tang stamp of this blade). The blade was deep stamped “Joseph Haywood & Cmpy/ Sheffield Maker”. Notably the handle is pressed horn. The integral liners and bolsters suggests a manufacturing date of +/- 1860…. The company known for quality cutlery advertised pen, pocket & sportsman’s knives, pruning and budding knives existed until 1888 with approximately 165 employees reported in 1881. Unfortunately the company began to have issues following Joseph’ s death in 1888 and only existed under his son, Arthur, for only 2 more years before being declared bankrupt in 1890. The entire company was dissolved over a 12 year period and bought by Needham, Veall & Tyzack and T Turner & Sons in 1902. Turner carried on the pocket knife line and Needham, Veall & Tyzack would continue table, razor, scissors and electro-plate.
Here's one I posted under the Parker & Field thread as a related knife to the discussion but it belongs here - I also included some more detailed info on Haywood...
Joseph Haywood & Compy (Ca. 1845-1888) … Joseph Haywood born in 1823 in Sheffield. He apprenticed with Robert Sorby & Co Sheffield (merchant and edge tool manufacturer) and eventually took over the cutlery of his uncle, George Willis Hinchliffe, (known bowie and pocket knife maker) in 1850 following Hinchliffe’s death. Prior to 1850, Haywood was lisetd as a merchant clerk on Eyre St In addition to the trademark of "Hinchliffe", which was continued even under Joseph Haywood, Haywood was granted the “kettle” trademark in 1860 (see tang stamp of this blade). The blade was deep stamped “Joseph Haywood & Cmpy/ Sheffield Maker”. Notably the handle is pressed horn. The integral liners and bolsters suggests a manufacturing date of +/- 1860…. The company known for quality cutlery advertised pen, pocket & sportsman’s knives, pruning and budding knives existed until 1888 with approximately 165 employees reported in 1881. Unfortunately the company began to have issues following Joseph’ s death in 1888 and only existed under his son, Arthur, for only 2 more years before being declared bankrupt in 1890. The entire company was dissolved over a 12 year period and bought by Needham, Veall & Tyzack and T Turner & Sons in 1902. Turner carried on the pocket knife line and Needham, Veall & Tyzack would continue table, razor, scissors and electro-plate.
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Thanks Joe ... The info summarized the highlights from that included in Tweedale's book...
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Nice one Joe, Lee, very cool tea pot for a tang stamp
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Thanks Keith ... Some Sheffield makers no doubt had some unique trademarks like this teapot... for example, John Blyde used the planet Saturn with Genius stamped above it ...
Nice Robeson Joe ... great condition too!!
Nice Robeson Joe ... great condition too!!
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Great old knives, Greg, Dimitri, Lee and Joe! Love that teapot tang stamp!
Dan
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Thanks Dan ...
Here's a few of my budding grafting knives all with integral spuds -
Miller Bros - 4" - Smooth Bone
IXL Wostenholm - 5" Gunstock pattern - Ivory
Here's a few of my budding grafting knives all with integral spuds -
Miller Bros - 4" - Smooth Bone
IXL Wostenholm - 5" Gunstock pattern - Ivory
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Beautiful knives, Lee.
Those don't show up too often here on the forum. It's nice to see yours.
Those don't show up too often here on the forum. It's nice to see yours.
Joe
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Thanks Lee for sharing your budding knife I have never seen one in person,it’s very nice . The Joseph Haywood you posted last month,really nice,love the old ones. Joe really nice Robenson you posted as well. I missed a few posts lately,thanks for sharing those.LongBlade wrote:Thanks Dan ...
Here's a few of my budding grafting knives all with integral spuds -
Miller Bros - 4" - Smooth Bone
Mark Side DSCN7203.JPG
Pile Side DSCN7209.JPG
Blade Open DSCN7233.JPG
Tang Stamp DSCN7367.JPG
IXL Wostenholm - 5" Gunstock pattern - Ivory
Mark Side DSCN7195.JPG
Pile Side DSCN7558.JPG
Blade Open DSCN7245.JPG
Tang Stamp DSCN7313.JPG
Bill
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Thanks Joe and Bill ...
Here's another - Rodgers only marked "Cutlers other Majesty" on mark side with maltese cross and star on pile side (no Sheffield nor England) - 4" Ivory
Here's another - Rodgers only marked "Cutlers other Majesty" on mark side with maltese cross and star on pile side (no Sheffield nor England) - 4" Ivory
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Thanks Joe ...
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives
Nice Joe ... the paternal twin of mine ...
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee