Charlie, that's our friend selling that knife check out the sellers ID.RobesonsRme.com wrote:Also, this apparent tortoise multi-blade.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-1856-Weis ... 4b573dd761
Charlie
Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
- Miller Bro's
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 11645
- Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:22 pm
- Location: Earth
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
AAPK Janitor
369
369
- RobesonsRme.com
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 9903
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:44 pm
- Location: The Heart of Dixie.
- Contact:
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Check your PM's Dimitri.
Charlie
Charlie
DE OPPRESSO LIBER
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
- RobesonsRme.com
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 9903
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:44 pm
- Location: The Heart of Dixie.
- Contact:
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
I wonder why he's culling that one out?
Charlie
Charlie
DE OPPRESSO LIBER
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
I think they are considered part of that genre of knife even as a Naval knife - there are notable examples (though again blade style is different in the majority) in a few of the Bowie books) .. also I would not consider Levine’s list of Bowie makers complete at all - there are much more comprehensive lists in some of the Bowie knife references and among the books as well...RobesonsRme.com wrote:If a British Naval Officer's knife, then it probably should not fall under the "Bowie" umbrella.
And Levine does not list John Coe as a maker of Bowie era knives.
Charlie
I didn’t look at the seller on eBay’s name - is he not the one with that 12” Hawkbill with stag among other nice knives on his website? And other types of collectibles?... maybe he’s culling it for holiday spending ..
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
- RobesonsRme.com
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 9903
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:44 pm
- Location: The Heart of Dixie.
- Contact:
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
That's him.
Charlie
Charlie
DE OPPRESSO LIBER
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Thanks Charlie ...
When I looked up Hinchcliffe in the Ben Palmer Collection book the Bowie maker who made that beauty of a folding dagger was listed as George Hinchcliffe - whereas my quill knife I referred to was made by John Hinchcliffe - However in Tweedale he noted John Hinchcliffe as the Bowie maker (and pen and pocket knives) and George Hinchcliffe as a pen and pocket knife maker... given it is folding knife maybe it is George Hinchcliffe as the first initial is worn in the stamp... not clear but great addition to any collection no matter who made it
When I looked up Hinchcliffe in the Ben Palmer Collection book the Bowie maker who made that beauty of a folding dagger was listed as George Hinchcliffe - whereas my quill knife I referred to was made by John Hinchcliffe - However in Tweedale he noted John Hinchcliffe as the Bowie maker (and pen and pocket knives) and George Hinchcliffe as a pen and pocket knife maker... given it is folding knife maybe it is George Hinchcliffe as the first initial is worn in the stamp... not clear but great addition to any collection no matter who made it
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
- RobesonsRme.com
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 9903
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:44 pm
- Location: The Heart of Dixie.
- Contact:
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
I read it as "J. HINCHCLIFFE / CELEBRATED / DIRK KNIFE" and that is exactly how Goins listed it and he stated they also made Bowie knives.
He also listed a "G. WILLIS HINCHCLIFFE CELEBRATED RAZORS"
Charlie
He also listed a "G. WILLIS HINCHCLIFFE CELEBRATED RAZORS"
Charlie
DE OPPRESSO LIBER
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Interesting Charlie ... as I said the stamp is worn so I wasn’t sure but given the direct stamp is seen in Goins you are right .. but it isn’t clear based on the info from 2 different books - Tweedale agrees with Goins, in fact Tweedale lists 3 different Hinchcliffes but it is possible George Hinchcliffe slso made bowies (as noted in the Palmer book)... both existed in the big bowie era production years of Sheffield... thanks for posting that knife as it again is special and I would have missed it based on my eBay searches..,,
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
- RobesonsRme.com
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 9903
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:44 pm
- Location: The Heart of Dixie.
- Contact:
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
This is the search that turns up some odd and unusual stuff that I would otherwise miss:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Other-Vint-Fold ... 331/i.html
Charlie
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Other-Vint-Fold ... 331/i.html
Charlie
DE OPPRESSO LIBER
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
"...Men may spurn our appeals, reject our message, oppose our arguments, despise our persons ___but they are helpless against our prayers. "
Sidlow Baxter
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Two celluloid handled Wabash Cutlery Terre Haute IN.
David
"Glowing like the metal on the edge of a knife" Meat Loaf
"Glowing like the metal on the edge of a knife" Meat Loaf
- Pile Driver
- Posts: 340
- Joined: Mon May 15, 2017 5:18 pm
- Location: North Shore MA
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
A Buhl and Sons elephant toe with a lanyard hook integrated into the frame a fold out saw blade. Pretty cool collaboration on a knife.
- Mumbleypeg
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 13458
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:28 am
- Location: Republic of Texas
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
I've always been a fan of swell-center patterns and those Wabash Cutlery examples are fine!
Very unique lanyard hook on the Buhl. Never seen one like that before.
Ken
Very unique lanyard hook on the Buhl. Never seen one like that before.
Ken
Member AKTI, TSRA, NRA.
If your religion requires that you hate someone, you need a new religion.
When the people fear their government, that is tyranny. When government fears the people, that is freedom.
https://www.akti.org/
If your religion requires that you hate someone, you need a new religion.
When the people fear their government, that is tyranny. When government fears the people, that is freedom.
https://www.akti.org/
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Very nice Wabash David
Piledriver, very nice and unusual, I like everything about that one!!!
Piledriver, very nice and unusual, I like everything about that one!!!
Bill
- Pile Driver
- Posts: 340
- Joined: Mon May 15, 2017 5:18 pm
- Location: North Shore MA
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Thank you, it's got a lot of mystiqueBWT wrote:Very nice Wabash David
Piledriver, very nice and unusual, I like everything about that one!!!
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Everything about that knife Joe screams "The old classic."
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Nice old Union Joe ...
I also have a Union Knife Co Naugatuck which is a single blade jack with smooth bone, similar bar shield and 3 3/4" closed length ... In fact single blade jacks must have been a popular pattern with Union Knife as I have seen at least 2 others besides our two - and they are not all that common as a find... One difference between ours is the blade - My blade has a nail nick rather than a long pull and the swedge on my knife runs all along the spine to the tang... not sure if this was considered a folding "dirk" or a stabber pattern given the swedge ... Anyway I got lucky with this one - blade is pretty full with a hard snap & tight - there is a chip of bone missing at the center pin on mark and pile sides but what I now understand is that knives with strong springs often may have a crack or chip at this pin (one often sees this on many knives and center cracks are not uncommon - when the blades are good which is my priority I'll forgive abit of handle damage) - Anyway as explained to me because the center pin fastens the spring that opening and closing the blade off a strong spring puts stress on the pin which puts pressure on the handle cover at that point which ultimately results in the damage..
I also have a Union Knife Co Naugatuck which is a single blade jack with smooth bone, similar bar shield and 3 3/4" closed length ... In fact single blade jacks must have been a popular pattern with Union Knife as I have seen at least 2 others besides our two - and they are not all that common as a find... One difference between ours is the blade - My blade has a nail nick rather than a long pull and the swedge on my knife runs all along the spine to the tang... not sure if this was considered a folding "dirk" or a stabber pattern given the swedge ... Anyway I got lucky with this one - blade is pretty full with a hard snap & tight - there is a chip of bone missing at the center pin on mark and pile sides but what I now understand is that knives with strong springs often may have a crack or chip at this pin (one often sees this on many knives and center cracks are not uncommon - when the blades are good which is my priority I'll forgive abit of handle damage) - Anyway as explained to me because the center pin fastens the spring that opening and closing the blade off a strong spring puts stress on the pin which puts pressure on the handle cover at that point which ultimately results in the damage..
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Thanks Joe ...
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Thanks Ken.KAW wrote:Everything about that knife Joe screams "The old classic."
Didn't see you back there.
Joe
- Mumbleypeg
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 13458
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:28 am
- Location: Republic of Texas
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Old Rather & Company gentleman's grooming knife. I've posted this one elsewhere but I think it belongs here. Pretty sure it is over 100 years old. It has a manicure blade with file, a button hook, mustache comb, earwax spoon, scissors, corkscrew, tortoise shell toothpick and three assorted different knife blades - ten blades in total. Remarkably it's less than three inches closed length and 3/4 inches thick. Probably German-made. Unfortunately the pearl, which is in great shape on one side, is badly broken on the other side.
Ken
Ken
- Attachments
-
- image.jpeg (19.33 KiB) Viewed 3164 times
-
- image.jpeg (22.99 KiB) Viewed 3164 times
-
- image.jpeg (21.06 KiB) Viewed 3164 times
-
- image.jpeg (26.87 KiB) Viewed 3164 times
Member AKTI, TSRA, NRA.
If your religion requires that you hate someone, you need a new religion.
When the people fear their government, that is tyranny. When government fears the people, that is freedom.
https://www.akti.org/
If your religion requires that you hate someone, you need a new religion.
When the people fear their government, that is tyranny. When government fears the people, that is freedom.
https://www.akti.org/
- Miller Bro's
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 11645
- Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:22 pm
- Location: Earth
- Mumbleypeg
- Gold Tier
- Posts: 13458
- Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:28 am
- Location: Republic of Texas
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Thanks Dimitri. I knew "acier" is French and translates to steel in English, so that makes sense. Not many references have any info on Rather & Co. but I have a reference somewhere (maybe Price - I'll have to look) which says it's German, so that's what I was going with. Appreciate your input.Miller Bro's wrote:Made in France.
Ken
Member AKTI, TSRA, NRA.
If your religion requires that you hate someone, you need a new religion.
When the people fear their government, that is tyranny. When government fears the people, that is freedom.
https://www.akti.org/
If your religion requires that you hate someone, you need a new religion.
When the people fear their government, that is tyranny. When government fears the people, that is freedom.
https://www.akti.org/
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Nice knife and a cool variety of blades - nice score Ken ...
____________________________________________________________________________
Lee
Lee
Re: Lets show some Old and Rare ones.
Very nice knife, Ken. Some one set some time aside to build that one.
Joe