Those hard to find Old Timers

Schrade Cutlery Company was founded in 1904 by George Schrade, and his brothers Jacob and William Schrade. In 1946 Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKAC; an association of Ulster Knife Co and Imperial Knife Co) purchased controlling interest in Schrade Cut Co and changed the name to Schrade Walden Cutlery. In 1973 the name was changed to Schrade Cutlery. In 2004 Schrade closed due to bankruptcy.

This forum is dedicated to the knives that are the legacy of this company. This forum is not the place to discuss the replica knives currently being imported using the Schrade name.
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SHO 'NUFF....

I am going to have to get me one of the Uncle Henry's.....

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Do the 123OT and 124UH have through pins instead of Swinden construction?
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tongueriver wrote:Do the 123OT and 124UH have through pins instead of Swinden construction?
My 124 is pinned so I'd assume the 123 is the same.
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KnifeSlinger#81 wrote:
tongueriver wrote:Do the 123OT and 124UH have through pins instead of Swinden construction?
My 124 is pinned so I'd assume the 123 is the same.
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tongueriver wrote:
kootenay joe wrote:Thanks Calvin. The Sears 'Scout' with saw blade is a 5 blade knife, right ? Do you know approximate years it was sold ? Made by Imperial ? Ulster ? Camillus ? or Schrade ? Maybe more than one ?
kj
Schrade Walden production records listed the #9555 as the "SW SAW KNIFE" first in 1967. The master blade has the Craftsman "crown" logo (matching the coined shield) and the number 9555. Mine came with a light tan leather pouch style sheath with "crown" Craftsman logo embossed on the flap. They were only sold for a year or so and in limited quantities. IIRC, a thousand or less were shipped. Nice find!
OK... now, I found where I got my lesson concerning the Craftsman 9555...

Well, I did happen to find one for my collection.

Needs a little cleaning and the main blade has some issues but i am happy with just having one.
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Yep, I have posted this guy around in a few places today....
I had to crow a little.....LOL.

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Mike, i think that is a great knife and looks to be in excellent condition.
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Super knife Mike. ::nod:: ::tu::
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kootenay joe wrote:Mike, i think that is a great knife and looks to be in excellent condition.
kj
Yep, I think it looks pretty nice. The main blade edge is a little rough but I can fix that. I and just tickled to find one!
doglegg wrote:Super knife Mike. ::nod:: ::tu::
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I found a Craftsman Old Timer. I guess I didn't realize that there was a Craftsman knife that had the Old Timer shield.
Anyway, I found both of these guys in one auction on the bay. A Craftsman Old Timer (9523) and a small Old Crafty. I can't tell what the number on the Old Crafty is (maybe a 9545??)

Anyway.... 2 more birds harvested with one stone, added to my Old Timer variants.
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Here is the best I could do of the tang stamp from the sellers pics of the Old Crafty.......
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Here is another one I finally found.....
It was in bad need of a good cleaning.
The illusive 8 OTY.
Before...
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After a good clean up.....
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Another one checked off the list.
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Mike you are on a roll! Old Timers and Old Craftys, your pile is growing. Cool finds. Congrats. ::tu:: ::tu::
Great job on the clean up as well. ::nod::
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doglegg wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:14 pm Mike you are on a roll! Old Timers and Old Craftys, your pile is growing. Cool finds. Congrats. ::tu:: ::tu::
Great job on the clean up as well. ::nod::
Yep, the pile is growing.... I need a better way to display my Old Timers. I have them in a glass front "frame" as we called 'em. BUT, the pile is too large for the frame now.
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I now have at least half as many again as shown. We have an artifact show here in January and some sellers bring larger display frames. Look like the collection needs a larger home.....LOL.

Oh, thanks for the complement on the clean up. The clean up is as much fun for me as finding that knife I NEED....LOL.
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Great looking collection!!! And that's just part of them, nice finds. ::tu:: ::tu:: ::groove::
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Some of my OLD TIMERS that have not bee posted. The two in first photo are a 250 and an 805. Of course the last 2 photo's are of my 20 T, found in a knife show for $35 - my lucky day.
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MAN... that is a beautiful 2 OT!!!
What does the other side of the 250 and the 805 look like?
Old timer shield?

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I waited a VERY long time to find a 50OT. I was convinced there was only 5 of them in existence. Then one day a few months ago I found one. It was a little rough but that didn't bother me one bit. I was just thrilled that it existed - and that it was mine! It has the sparkly brown mystery plastic covers and the stamp is 50T instead of 50OT (normal/expected for the pattern.) I always thought that was because they just used Ulster 50 blades and stamped a 'T' on them after the fact. Who knows. Anyway, not long after I found my 50 another 50 actually found me! Basically in the same condition. So now I believe there are 7 in the world and I own 2 of them, lol! I'd actually love to find out what the production numbers were (Larry!) because all I have ever seen are just a few of these brown ones and maybe one or two in bone. You'd think at least one would pop up in Delrin, but nope - not a single one.
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The jack above marked "250", i cannot read the front tang. Is it really a Schrade-Walden knife ? I am not familiar with a 250 pattern, if it is a S-W it is rather rare.
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kootenay joe wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:51 am The jack above marked "250", i cannot read the front tang. Is it really a Schrade-Walden knife ? I am not familiar with a 250 pattern, if it is a S-W it is rather rare.
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The 250 is identical to the 233 but with Propwood covers. They were made for a few years in the mid 50s.
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tinroof wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:52 pmOf course the last 2 photo's are of my 20 T, found in a knife show for $35 - my lucky day.
Your gun and knife shows are better than mine! Vendors around here are expensive on everything nowadays. $35 for a 2OT?? WOW! I always like seeing the ones that were personalized/used for advertising. Something very cool about them. Great find. ::tu::
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jxr1197 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:14 am I waited a VERY long time to find a 50OT. I was convinced there was only 5 of them in existence. Then one day a few months ago I found one. It was a little rough but that didn't bother me one bit. I was just thrilled that it existed - and that it was mine! It has the sparkly brown mystery plastic covers and the stamp is 50T instead of 50OT (normal/expected for the pattern.) I always thought that was because they just used Ulster 50 blades and stamped a 'T' on them after the fact. Who knows. Anyway, not long after I found my 50 another 50 actually found me! Basically in the same condition. So now I believe there are 7 in the world and I own 2 of them, lol! I'd actually love to find out what the production numbers were (Larry!) because all I have ever seen are just a few of these brown ones and maybe one or two in bone. You'd think at least one would pop up in Delrin, but nope - not a single one.
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I have been on the look out for a 50 OT for my collection too. I think, the only way to find one is for the seller to have NO IDEA what he has.
I had, what I think MIGHT have been a 50 OT, cornered on ebay and I was the only bidder. As my luck would have it, somebody sniped me at the last minute.
Oh well.....
Onward!

Mike
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Thanks for info on the '250' jack. I have a few (3 ?) of the propwood S-W knives. I will look to see what numbers they might be stamped with.
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The jack above marked "250", i cannot read the front tang. Is it really a Schrade-Walden knife ? I am not familiar with a 250 pattern, if it is a S-W it is rather rare.
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Glad to add a better image.
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Well.... well.... well.....
It took a WHILE.... my patience was tried..... BUT, I took y'alls advice...... I watched and waited and I actually got myself an 8OTY and a 34OTY for my collection...!!
This one, I fished out of the bay last night and it is on the way to my collection. This 34OTY has full blades.... the rust is pretty bad but I think I can handle that.
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Here is the new addition!
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NOW..... if I can just find myself a 50 OT..... Now that one, I might never see..... BUT I AM going to keep looking!
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How is a 50 OT different from a 5 OT?
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tongueriver wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:28 pm How is a 50 OT different from a 5 OT?
I think they are the same.....
Seems like (and I may be wrong) I have seen people show pics of both a 5OT tamg stamp and a 50OT tang stamp and they say they are the same knife.
(maybe I need to understand exactly what I am looking for.....huh?)
(Maybe this is all a pigment of my imagination...LOL)

::shrug::

This one.....
The one nobody can find.....

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(Look on this page about mid way down)

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