Marbles woodcraft identification
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67cuda
Marbles woodcraft identification
Can anyone help me identify the time period this marbles woodcraft was produced ? I’m new to marbles and I’m having trouble positively identifying The stamp. No serif on the “ A “ in “ MARBLES “ . This is possibly the key to identifying the time period, along with the nut size. Be honest,...was it worth the $100 Bucks I spent ?
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Re: Marbles woodcraft identification
You need to pick up Arni Dunathan's Encyclopedia of Marble's Knives & Sporting Collectibles, the Patent stamp was used up until 1925. And
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Re: Marbles woodcraft identification
Thanks. Given the nut size, and no serif on the “ A “, I’m thinking closer to WWII. Yet, this is just from the research I’ve been able to gather. If it is pre-1925, I’d be one happy camper, lol ! Hopefully I posted my response in the right place1967redrider wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:01 am You need to pick up Arni Dunathan's Encyclopedia of Marble's Knives & Sporting Collectibles, the Patent stamp was used up until 1925. Andto AAPK!
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Re: Marbles woodcraft identification
67cuda wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:09 amThanks. Given the nut size, and no serif on the “ A “, I’m thinking closer to WWII. Yet, this is just from the research I’ve been able to gather, not to mention the nut is The smaller brass, not aluminum. If it is pre-1925, I’d be one happy camper, lol ! Hopefully I posted my response in the right place1967redrider wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:01 am You need to pick up Arni Dunathan's Encyclopedia of Marble's Knives & Sporting Collectibles, the Patent stamp was used up until 1925. Andto AAPK!
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Re: Marbles woodcraft identification
The smaller handle features, narrow spacers and short guard point to an earlier production Woodcraft. From Woodcraft models I have seen I would think the 1916 stamp would be in use well past the 1926 date. I don't put much stock in the sarif dating of the A letter in the stamp as outlined in the book mentioned. The overall look of the knife is a better indicator of production time. Best guess your knife is pre WWII.
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Re: Marbles woodcraft identification
My thoughts exactly so far, though I can’t identify by spacers as of yet, if that is a thing ?btrwtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:26 pm The smaller handle features, narrow spacers and short guard point to an earlier production Woodcraft. From Woodcraft models I have seen I would think the 1916 stamp would be in use well past the 1926 date. I don't put much stock in the sarif dating of the A letter in the stamp as outlined in the book mentioned. The overall look of the knife is a better indicator of production time. Best guess your knife is pre WWII.
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Re: Marbles woodcraft identification
67cuda wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:51 pmMy thoughts exactly so far, though I can’t identify by spacers as of yet, if that is a thing ?btrwtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:26 pm The smaller handle features, narrow spacers and short guard point to an earlier production Woodcraft. From Woodcraft models I have seen I would think the 1916 stamp would be in use well past the 1926 date. I don't put much stock in the sarif dating of the A letter in the stamp as outlined in the book mentioned. The overall look of the knife is a better indicator of production time. Best guess your knife is pre WWII.
I have never seen anything about dating Marble's fixed blades by spacer variation. But if anyone has I would be interested in reading.
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Re: Marbles woodcraft identification
First of all serifs are the little "feet" at the bottom of the letters, not the cross bar on an "A". I agree with Wayne again here, the Pat 1916 mark would have more likely been used at least until 1933, the 17 years that a patent protected a design. Like Wayne says, the closest one can ID that knife is pre-WW2. Yes, early Marbles knives had different spacer packs than the later knives but I don't think that applies to the Woodcraft model but it is seen on Ideals and Trailmakers. The small nut does apply to Woodcraft models as well as most other models, earlier knives had larger pommel nuts. Regarding the price, they often go for less on the bay. They used to bring more money but the internet showed just how common they are and the price has dropped some. Of course in mint condition with a mint sheath they do go higher but the leather handled ones are way behind the stag handles ones in value.
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Re: Marbles woodcraft identification
I agree. Although I didn’t know the proper terminology to describe the “ A “, I obviously did get my point across. Thanks for the enlightenment. You can find many things in print that go against reality. We have many books proving this. Look to any religion and see that, lol ! Commercial advertising Is no exception. All authors and speakers manipulate whether intended or not. Thanks.Gunsil wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:29 pm First of all serifs are the little "feet" at the bottom of the letters, not the cross bar on an "A". I agree with Wayne again here, the Pat 1916 mark would have more likely been used at least until 1933, the 17 years that a patent protected a design. Like Wayne says, the closest one can ID that knife is pre-WW2. Yes, early Marbles knives had different spacer packs than the later knives but I don't think that applies to the Woodcraft model but it is seen on Ideals and Trailmakers. The small nut does apply to Woodcraft models as well as most other models, earlier knives had larger pommel nuts. Regarding the price, they often go for less on the bay. They used to bring more money but the internet showed just how common they are and the price has dropped some. Of course in mint condition with a mint sheath they do go higher but the leather handled ones are way behind the stag handles ones in value.