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Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:12 pm
by Papa Bones
Yep......you guys keep posting these beautiful collections, and I'm not ever gonna be able to clean all the drool out of my laptop!!

Beautiful knifes for sure.
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:29 pm
by jxr1197
Meridian_Mike wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:42 pm
jxr1197 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:53 pm
I'll add this group shot here. It's the most current family portrait of my beloved Washington Jacks. A little more than half of them are Schrades.
washjacks.jpg
DOG GONE Jason......
somehow, I guess I missed your Washington family portrait....
THAT RIGHT THERE...... IS VERY IMPRESSIVE!!!!
2OTs, and a 3OT..... WOW.
Not to mention the Craftsman 2OT.....
WOW.... just WOW!
.
I am IN AWE!!!!
Thanks - they are a handsome bunch

Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:33 pm
by Meridian_Mike
jxr1197 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:29 pm
Thanks - they are a handsome bunch
YES..... very photogenic!

Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:25 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
tongueriver wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:08 pm
A little group of celluloid cattle and stockmans, Schrade CutCo and Schrade Walden.IMG_2226.JPG
I like this group and display. Very good Cal.
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:08 am
by bladecollectorr
Here's a box-full of consolidated Schrade orders that arrived today. I just threw it all on the scanner. The knives will all get cleaned and polished when I get around to it but they still look pretty fine as-is.
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:49 pm
by Hak1911
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:43 pm
by Hak1911
wlf wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:39 pm
Shadow patterns . All SCCo., except the rehandled one is marked C. U. Liggit Phila.. C U Liggett sold seeds as far as I know, I expect it's the same??
These first appeared in 1936 Cat. E supplement.Not many shadow patterns are 4 1/8". Extra
THICK liners for strength as described in the cut and heavy duty pivot pins. The French ivory has the standard blades on most Schrade farmers jacks
The Fibestos material handles didn't last . I have one original fibestos handled knife below and one that's been rehandled. A Schrade S 7309F double spring (The only legitimate farmers jack I have found with 2 springs) and a wharcliffe (peach pruner) pruning blade. It also has the extremely unique budding blade with the spud atop and the thumb rest at the tang.(My all time favorite blade) Also has the flat sided blades.
Very cool knife!
David Anthony gave me the rehandled one that he did.It was given to him by the trout fishing guy in NE Penn. that doesn't post any longer. I don't know if he's still alive and am sorry I can't remember his name right now. Saurconian ?,I think was his username, can't remember his real name though.
ScrewMe those are Awsome
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:44 pm
by Hak1911
wlf wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:39 pm
Shadow patterns . All SCCo., except the rehandled one is marked C. U. Liggit Phila.. C U Liggett sold seeds as far as I know, I expect it's the same??
These first appeared in 1936 Cat. E supplement.Not many shadow patterns are 4 1/8". Extra
THICK liners for strength as described in the cut and heavy duty pivot pins. The French ivory has the standard blades on most Schrade farmers jacks
The Fibestos material handles didn't last . I have one original fibestos handled knife below and one that's been rehandled. A Schrade S 7309F double spring (The only legitimate farmers jack I have found with 2 springs) and a wharcliffe (peach pruner) pruning blade. It also has the extremely unique budding blade with the spud atop and the thumb rest at the tang.(My all time favorite blade) Also has the flat sided blades.
Very cool knife!
David Anthony gave me the rehandled one that he did.It was given to him by the trout fishing guy in NE Penn. that doesn't post any longer. I don't know if he's still alive and am sorry I can't remember his name right now. Saurconian ?,I think was his username, can't remember his real name though.
ScrewMe those are Awsome
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:17 am
by Papa Bones
Hak1911 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:49 pmimage.jpg
Hak1911, you need to show off that Geo Schrade Wire Jack you've got hid in the left side of the photo.

Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:21 am
by doglegg
Papa Bones wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:17 am
Hak1911 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:49 pmimage.jpg
Hak1911, you need to show off that Geo Schrade Wire Jack you've got hid in the left side of the photo.
Is that a knife or a fork?

Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:47 pm
by Papa Bones
doglegg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:21 am
Papa Bones wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:17 am
Hak1911 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:49 pmimage.jpg
Hak1911, you need to show off that Geo Schrade Wire Jack you've got hid in the left side of the photo.
Is that a knife or a fork?
My eyes couldn't tell in the photo. You may be right, it may be a fork. But he may have others

Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:26 pm
by JAMESC41001
These three knives were pictured in Jim Seargents book. Herman Williams provided many of the knives for the schrade portion of the book. He also donated many of the knives that were in the Schrade factory collection. These came to me by a dealer who purchased some of the collection at the auction and after.
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:48 pm
by TPK
JAMESC41001 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:26 pm
These three knives were pictured in Jim Seargents book. Herman Williams provided many of the knives for the schrade portion of the book. He also donated many of the knives that were in the Schrade factory collection. These came to me by a dealer who purchased some of the collection at the auction and after. D11C4B62-7AF4-4C1A-9846-428C70B30DB8.jpeg
Cool Story & 3 Outstanding Knives James!

Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:09 pm
by JAMESC41001
Thanks Tom
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:25 pm
by tongueriver
Nice knives. Herman Williams was verbally promised that this would not happen but they lied. Well, they are all out there now and nothing to be done for it. I would buy them also.
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:52 pm
by JAMESC41001
Cal, I managed to get a knife back to Herman once. He’s done a lot of work for me over the years. In the end we’re all just hanging on to these for a short time.
Jay
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:58 am
by tongueriver
JAMESC41001 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:52 pm
Cal, I managed to get a knife back to Herman once. He’s done a lot of work for me over the years. In the end we’re all just hanging on to these for a short time.
Jay
Yep.
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:53 am
by bladecollectorr
I like to cover my sub-woofer with ever-changing groups of knives. Scrimshaw knives get scrimshaw friends to hang out with.
Today I finally received a fine piece of scrimshaw art by Alaskan artist Michael Scott that I bought at the end of June. It had been sitting at my parcel forwarder's place for quite a while. I was very happy to see that it arrived undamaged after its long trips from Alaska to Pennsylvania and finally to me in Ontario.
It's a bear with salmon scrim done on a section of mammoth tusk that's pin-mounted to a petrified mammoth bone stand.
ebay just shut down the seller (who joined ebay in 2002 and has 100% positive feedback) due to their tightened ivory trade regulations. I'm glad I grabbed this piece a month before ebay sunk their business model. Obviously, I have no problem with Native Americans like Scott using ancient found mammoth ivory to create beautiful art (and income).
Looks fantastic surrounded by four Bill Feeney scrims and a couple bonus lockbacks. A sambar 1999 Calgary Stampede PH1 is on the centre channel.
One-of-these-days I will get a bigger TV and put my centre channel on a shelf. I'm too lazy to mount the shelf twice so the speaker is on an ugly cardboard box that is the right size.
Note the silver coloured wedge placed between the box and the speaker (to angle it towards my ears). That is a $100 extra-fine DMT diamond whetstone. Sadly, this is the only use I have for it. You can feel the knife catching on individual diamonds (clumps?) when you use it. Worst $100 I ever spent! I totally should have stuck with oil or water stones.
Along with the mammoth scrimshaw piece I received in the same box an old 4-pin 7OT from the first, short-lived 1979-1980 release and a whetstone from the same period (around 1980).
Here's the earliest type of 7OT shown with the earliest LB8-type knife, its UH144 serial-matched partner and the Beastly whetstone. Plan is to clean and polish all three. This would be the "before" picture.
The "1978 Christmas Edition" sets (staglon LB7 & UH144), representing various southern States, were the first use of staglon on a LB8-type knife. Note the brass shield on the "LB8". These sets are, to my knowledge, the only time a brass "Uncle Henry" shield was used. Schrade switched to nickel silver shields on LB8-type knives and never went back.
The Schrade Beast whetstone is a relic of Schrade's blink-and-you'll-miss-it "Schrade Beast" mascot campaign. "The Incredible Hulk" was a very popular TV show at the time and Schrade shamelessly tried to capitalize on that popularity. The Beast appeared (and then quickly disappeared) around 1980.
The stone is larger than I thought it would be when I was looking at pics. I'd call it a "medium-fine" stone designed for one-stop sharpening. I think it would actually be useful. I might sharpen some Schrades on it for full authenticity. I haven't decided yet. Stone is unused. My DMT-diamond-disaster might be good at lapping smaller stones flat again. Maybe I can put it to Beastly good use after all.
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:11 pm
by jxr1197
I've got one of those early LB8's with the LB7 stamp. I just pulled it out - serial 8741. Do you know anything about the etch on it?
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:02 pm
by bladecollectorr
jxr1197 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:11 pm
I've got one of those early LB8's with the LB7 stamp. I just pulled it out - serial 8741. Do you know anything about the etch on it?
The Uncle Henry 1978 Christmas Edition Sets were an early preview of both the 144UH and the staglon LB7. They had their own serialization scheme which had a 2-letter State code and a 3-digit serial. My "South Carolina" set is serial SC248. I think they might have made a full thousand sets representing each individual State (maybe 750, not sure). Etches on these staglon LB7 knives were of the official State Flower (to match the text and flowers on the 144UH).
The 144UH was first introduced as part of these late-1978 sets and was immediately listed as "New" in the 1979 catalog. The official LB8 Grizzly didn't show up as a catalog item until 1981.
When the LB8 Grizzly was officially listed in 1981 Schrade gave them their own serial numbers (similar to how LB7s were being numbered). The earliest ones (like yours?) were assembled with LB7 stamped blades. The earliest official LB8 Grizzly knives were already 3-pin knives if I remember correctly and I don't think they had any etch at all.
I have no idea what is etched on your knife. Maybe it was a factory customized LB8 (as part of Schrade's Giftmaster options etc). Maybe some company or another bought a bunch of them and paid for a custom etch.
Can you show us pics of your knife including serial and etch? Schrade mysteries are the fun kind.

Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:19 am
by jxr1197
bladecollectorr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:02 pm
I have no idea what is etched on your knife. Maybe it was a factory customized LB8 (as part of Schrade's Giftmaster options etc). Maybe some company or another bought a bunch of them and paid for a custom etch.
Can you show us pics of your knife including serial and etch? Schrade mysteries are the fun kind.
I see how you read my comment. I was asking about the etch on your knife, mine doesn't have one. An example of me typing fast and hitting the submit button without giving it a quick read first.
Your etched 'LB8' made me remember I have one of those sets - the 1980 Dixie Collection and there's an etch in the same location on that one too.
Here's my LB7 bladed LB8 -
The Dixie knife is a 4 pin and the LB8 is a 3 pin.
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:12 am
by bladecollectorr
jxr1197 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:19 am
I see how you read my comment. I was asking about the etch on your knife, mine doesn't have one. An example of me typing fast and hitting the submit button without giving it a quick read first.
Your etched 'LB8' made me remember I have one of those sets - the 1980 Dixie Collection and there's an etch in the same location on that one too.
lb8dixie.jpg
Here's my LB7 bladed LB8 -
lb8.jpg
The Dixie knife is a 4 pin and the LB8 is a 3 pin.
Ah ha! That makes sense. I think I recognize your Dixie Collection knife and it's oak leaves as being the one that's paired with the "Lee, Davis, Jackson" 144UH. Your LB8 is indeed just that, a very early one. I used to own three of the four Dixie Collection sets but now I'm going after the 1978 sets with their less politically charged subject matter. Turns out I'm not Johnny Reb. The LB8 and 144UH pairing really appeals to me though. They are very attractive sets.
The different 5" lockbacks from this period all tell the same story as to when the switch from 4-pin to 3-pin happened. It must have been late 1980 or so. 1978 staglon LB7s were 4-pin. 7OT was still 4-pin in 1979 and 1980. Dixie Collection sets were still 4-pin in 1980. Then came 1981 and all the new LB8s were 3-pin.
The 1981 Scrimshaw SC507 came in three flavors during this changeover period with the earliest ones being 4-pin with LB7 stamped blades, a few were 3-pin with an LB7 stamped blade and the majority were 3-pin with the new SC507 stamp.
A couple old pics of Dixie Collection knives I used to own.
3 flavours of 1981 SC507:
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:36 pm
by TPK
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:43 am
by Papa Bones
Re: Schrades are better in groups
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:19 am
by TPK
Thanks Buddy!

I appreciate your comments my friend!
