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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

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JACK KNIFE BEN CHICAGO on front tangs rooster nutter with ebony handles. Back tang stamp is UNION STOCK YARDS.
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Recently, this pocket knife arrived in a group or lot of pocket knives that I bought. I did NOT purchase the group or lot of pocket knives to obtain this particular pocket knife. It is an O. C. MFG. CO. (Ohio Cutlery), two blades, two tang stamps, 3 1/8" closed, two springs, pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp might say, "O.C.MFG.CO (over) MASSILLON" (It is really faint and barely readable) The secondary blade front tang stamp also might say, "O.C.MFG.CO (over) MASSILLON" (It too is really faint and barely readable) There is NO "Tru-Temper" stamped on the back of the tang, on either blade. The main blade has a rounded tip. The secondary blade also has a rounded tip. The main blade has no real opening and or closing snap to speak of. The secondary blade has a decent opening and closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is still in FAIR+ condition. I gave it a minor cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is. The very last picture is of the GOINS' descriptions.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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The Secondary Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The GOINS' Descriptions.
The GOINS' Descriptions.
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Not too recently, this lobster pattern or style of pocket knife arrived in a group or lot of pocket knives that I bought. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. This particular pocket knife was NOT the target of my purchase. But, it did get added to my general pocket knife collection. It is a QUICK POINT, two blades, two tang stamps, 9/16" X 2 1/4" closed (not including the bail), lobster pattern or style of pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "QUICK (over) POINT" The secondary blade back tang stamp also says "QUICK (over) POINT" If there ever was any advertising on the handle(s), it is not there now. The main blade has a good half stop and a good opening and closing snap. The secondary blade also has a good half stop and a good opening and closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is still in GOOD+ condition. It did need a little cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.<br />Nothing On The Back.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
Nothing On The Back.
The Secondary Blade Back Tang Stamp.<br />Nothing On The Front.
The Secondary Blade Back Tang Stamp.
Nothing On The Front.
Per GOINS' (1998 Edition).....
Per GOINS' (1998 Edition).....
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Some time ago, this lobster pattern or style of pocket knife arrived in a large group or lot of pocket knives that I purchased. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. This particular pocket knife was NOT the target of my purchase. But, it did join my general pocket knife collection. It is a HAYWARD, one blade, one tool (scissors), one tang stamp, 7/16" X 2 1/4" closed (not including the bail), lobster, pattern or style of pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "HAYWARD" The main blade has a soft half stop and a crisp opening and closing snap. The tool also has a soft half stop and a crisp opening and closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is still in VERY GOOD condition. It needed very little cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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Not too recently, this fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife, arrived in a large group or lot of pocket knives that I bought. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. This particular pocket knife was NOT the target of my purchase. However, it did get added to my general pocket knife collection. It is a S.O.B., one blade, one tool (a file), one tang stamp, one bail stamp, 2 5/8" closed (not including the bail), fob or key ring, pattern or style of pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "S.O.B." (S.O. Bigney?) The bail stamp says "SOB Co" The main blade has a good half stop and a good opening and closing snap. The tool also has a good half stop and a good opening and closing snap. Each handle side or scale has a simple design. The main handle side or scale has an oval shaped, blank space, for personalizing. Each handle side or scale has a couple of tiny dings. But, overall, this pocket knife is still in GOOD condition. It did need a little cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Bail Stamp.
The Bail Stamp.
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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:00 pm Recently, this pocket knife arrived in a group or lot of pocket knives that I bought. I did NOT purchase the group or lot of pocket knives to obtain this particular pocket knife. It is an O. C. MFG. CO. (Ohio Cutlery), two blades, two tang stamps, 3 1/8" closed, two springs, pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp might say, "O.C.MFG.CO (over) MASSILLON" (It is really faint and barely readable) The secondary blade front tang stamp also might say, "O.C.MFG.CO (over) MASSILLON" (It too is really faint and barely readable) There is NO "Tru-Temper" stamped on the back of the tang, on either blade. The main blade has a rounded tip. The secondary blade also has a rounded tip. The main blade has no real opening and or closing snap to speak of. The secondary blade has a decent opening and closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is still in FAIR+ condition. I gave it a minor cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is. The very last picture is of the GOINS' descriptions.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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Nice Candle Jack, Skip. A once popular pattern that's not so popular anymore. ::tu::
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1967redrider wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:21 pm Nice.....
Thank you, John.🍻
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I am posting this pocket knife for reference. I am NOT posting this pocket knife for its looks.....

Some time ago, this pocket knife arrived in a very large group or lot of pocket knives that I bought. I did NOT purchase the group or lot of pocket knives just to obtain this particular pocket knife. It is a BRANTFORD, two blades, two tang stamps, 3 5/8" closed, two springs, pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "BRANTFORD (over) CUTLERY CO (over) USA" The secondary blade front tang stamp also says, "BRANTFORD (over) CUTLERY CO (over) USA" If there was a blade etch, there isn't one now (see "Per GOINS' below). Now, to the problems. A bolster pin is recessed, the secondary blade spring is broken in half and two thirds of the back handle or scale is missing. The main blade has a good half stop and a good opening and closing snap. The secondary blade, well...... Both blades still have a lot of metal left. I took some pictures and here it is.
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***** Per GOINS' (1998) *****
"BRANTFORD CUTLERY CO. USA g 1910-1930
"Warranted Never Dull" is etched on the blade,
a trademark used by Butler Brothers."

.....about Butler Brothers.
"BUTLER BROS. CHICAGO c 1888-1940. This firm was
incorporated in Illinois, but they were also in New York City.
The trademark, "Warranted Never Dull Cutlery" was first
used in 1896. They dealt in all types of cutlery."
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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Wonder who made Brantford/Butler Bros. knives? Utica? Camillus? ? J.O'.
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Ridgegrass wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:48 pm Wonder.....
J.O', I know this doesn't answer your question, but this
is what GOINS' (1998 Edition) says about Butler Brothers.
"BUTLER BROS. CHICAGO c 1888-1940. This firm was
incorporated in Illinois, but they were also in New York City.
The trademark, "Warranted Never Dull Cutlery" was first
used in 1896. They dealt in all types of cutlery."

I'm going to add this information to my original post.
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Thanks Skip. I guess some of the info we want is lost or buried in the records pretty deep. We collectors of the "obscure" have some hard digging to do. ::handshake::
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W.R.B. Terra Haute...Will Roll Bearing
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Glenn, That's my kind of stuff! ::tu:: ::tu:: J.O'.
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Glenn, that is a fabulous old knife!
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Fine knife Glenn
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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:15 pm I am posting this pocket knife for reference. I am NOT posting this pocket knife for its looks.....

Some time ago, this pocket knife arrived in a very large group or lot of pocket knives that I bought. I did NOT purchase the group or lot of pocket knives just to obtain this particular pocket knife. It is a BRANTFORD, two blades, two tang stamps, 3 5/8" closed, two springs, pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "BRANTFORD (over) CUTLERY CO (over) USA" The secondary blade front tang stamp also says, "BRANTFORD (over) CUTLERY CO (over) USA"
A unique knife, Skip. Is that handle made of horn? I can see a bit of varied color there.
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glennbad wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:15 am W.R.B. Terra Haute...Will Roll Bearing

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LOVE them bone handles!!
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Reverand wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:17 am
glennbad wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:15 am W.R.B. Terra Haute...Will Roll Bearing

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LOVE them bone handles!!
Thanks! I picked it up at a knife show for not much at all. I had never heard of the maker before...
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glennbad wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:15 am W.R.B. Terra Haute...Will Roll Bearing

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Sweet old pick-bone. :mrgreen:
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Jack Knife Ben had these made to sell at the Union Stock Yards in Chicago.
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These two were probably made by Napanoch in the 1900 to 1910 era. Second one has the CARMEN punch blade.
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Jacknifeben wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:19 pm Jack Knife Ben had these made to sell at the Union Stock Yards in Chicago. IMG_5718.jpegThese two were probably made by Napanoch in the 1900 to 1910 era. Second one has the CARMEN punch blade.
Beauties the both.
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Reverand wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:15 am A.....
Thank you, Scott. 🍻
I have no idea what the handle material is.
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Hi I was directed to this thread for info on this lovely old mother of pearl knife, likely to be a quill knife. It has G R & Co stamped as the only marking - can anyone advise maker and age? Many thanks!
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I hope I'm doing this right. I went through all 61 pages looking for this tang stamp but had no success. I remember seeing it years ago when I was making my own fixed blades and was searching the internets for tang stamp ideas. It's basically an image of a pen knife with the blades pointing down and slightly out from 90 degrees. It's hard to see in the photos. Above it, the letters R and maybe a U and one or two MMs.
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helenu wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:11 pm Hi I was directed to this thread for info on this lovely old mother of pearl knife, likely to be a quill knife. It has G R & Co stamped as the only marking - can anyone advise maker and age? Many thanks!
I can’t say much about it other than it’s a beautiful piece. I thought (though I’m not really versed in this) it may be German by the way the Co was stamped but looking through a German stamp pdf I have all I saw was GR& son co.
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