ken98k wrote:treefarmer wrote:Florida has recently allowed noise suppressors to be utilized while hunting. Apparently no permits or paper work is needed. Our Governor has been very instrumental in passing some great common sense legislation that is very pro 2nd Amendment! (I couldn't get the pdf file to open to find the date when it became law.
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Treefarmer
pretty sure you will still need the Federal stamp from atf.
Hey Ken,
I believe what TF was saying "recently allowed noise suppressors to be utilized
while hunting. Apparently no permits or paper work is needed." is that he is not referring to obtaining one, just that if you have one it can be used to hunt without any Fish and Game approval, of course assuming prey is in season and you have a license. Sorry to puts word in your mouth TF, especially if I am incorrect. Just what I thought when I read it. As I mentioned when I brought up the subject, hunters here in NV use them with the primary purpose of being able to hear prey and not lose the eardrums. Mainly used on coyotes.
Colonel26 wrote: On a shotgun forum I'm on there are some folks from Great Britain. They have always been able to use suppressors hunting. They can't believe that here in America we have to go through all the red tape to get a suppressor when getting the gun in the first place is so easy. They're right, it don't make much sense.
They have some real neat shotguns suppressors that they use when hunting dove and such in heavier populated areas.
Wade, I have spent 90 days in England in the last 2 years. Not in London but out in the countryside. I shared many pints with locals and co workers during that time talking all aspects of culture, hobbies and such. Great friendly people but obviously a different culture in many aspects including guns. Think about the fact that the cops have access to guns dependent on what the level of threat is but they literally bust down doors on fugitives hideouts and they do have weapons besides guns but it is pretty much hand to hand. Ever here of that in the US? As I understand it, not many people are gun owners there, some by choice and some by restrictions. I have never read the laws but my understanding that normal citizens there go through all sorts of red tape just to buy a handgun and it has to be stored at a gun club or range. Could be wrong, just what I heard.
My main point is that they have access to suppressors more easily (based on what you said only as I have not researched that either) due to the fact that hearing gunshots in that country are less common and accepted there as it is in the US. We all shared cell pics while I was there and the concept of owning, frequently carrying and overall general use of firearms from a person was kind of foreign and strange to them. These people were not liberal wimps either. Just not what they are accustomed to.
My understanding is that most is the process in buying a suppressors in the US is finding a level 3 dealer, excessive wait time as with all things where Federal approval is required and CASH! If you can qualify to buy a gun, you can get one. CASH primarily being the main reason in my opinion, most owners that qualify and would like one, do not ever get one. They are not cheap for sure.
It is not the same as me going to the hardware store and buying a gun, leaving with said gun in whatever amount of time it takes for the guy on the phone for ATF approval and carrying out as much ammo and accessories I have the money for. Usually 30 minutes or less. That would include a .50 cal Barrett if one was on the shelf or I pre-ordered it. Pretty sure they can’t do that at all in Great Britain, wait time, permits or not.
Interestingly enough, I have never heard of a surpressor for a shotgun. Not doubting the fact and I am sure they are cool. Just never had an issue with the report when firing my 12 gauge at birds as far as hurting my ears nor did any neighbooring far away homes ever complain (sound travel pretty far based on terrian where I live). Not trying to confrontational, just pointing the differences in culture based on my current knowledge.
Cam, it depends on your needs. This is not about masking noise as much as protecting your hearing for
my purpose of aquiring a few. If I am in the desert way out with the dogs, I prefer to be able to hear a pack of coyotes or wild dogs or whatever else is required before it gets ugly and not lose what is left of my hearing in the process of dealing with it. If I am going to the range I wear earplugs and muffs.
Regards, Jerry
That man is a success who has lived well, laughed often and loved much; who leaves the world better than he found it; who never lacked appreciation of earth's beauty or failed to express it; who looked for the best in other's and gave the best he had.
it's all good Jerry, no confrontation here. Just citing my information.
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