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It's a very desirable knife. Lovely.
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Nice condition and welcome.
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s4ducati wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:28 am A old New York Knife, Hammer Brand.
Way up on the top shelf is where you'll find this knife.

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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:00 am Recently, this pocket knife arrived in a group or lot of pocket knives that I bought. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread (FOR REFERENCE). I did NOT buy the group or lot of pocket knives to obtain this particular pocket knife. I am NOT adding this pocket knife to my general, pocket knife accumulation. Instead, it is going in my "broken" knife box. It is a PINE KNOT, two blades (the main blade is broken), one tang stamp, 3 1/2" closed, two springs, long main blade pull (if it wasn't broken), pocket knife. The main broken blade, front tang stamp, is the curved or arched style and says, "PINE KNOT (over) (bird image) (over) Jno W Price (written)" It appears that this pocket knife once had a shield. It does NOT have a shield now. The main blade stub has a soft half stop, but a VERY GOOD opening and closing snap. The secondary blade also has a soft half stop, along with an ok opening and closing snap. Even with the broken main blade, this pocket knife is still in FAIR condition. I had to clean it a little. I took some pictures and here it is.
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".....Jno W Price (written)"
The initials JNO or Jno are in fact old abbreviations for John.
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Here's an old CRUSADER boy's knife by Belknap. Can't say who made it. Boker, Camillus, Utica, Schrade? German pre-tariff? Very tight and snappy.. J.O'.
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Nice Imperial Dave.

Unusual mark John.
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Ridgegrass wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:15 pm Here's an old CRUSADER boy's knife by Belknap. Can't say who made it. Boker, Camillus, Utica, Schrade? German pre-tariff? Very tight and snappy.. J.O'.
Old knife is what it is, no labels. Sweet.
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::tu::
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Here is a Hickory likely made by Napanock for Kelly Howell Thomson, Duluth, Mn some time around 1900 to 1920.----Dave
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A rare beauty. J.O'.
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Ridgegrass wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:00 pm A rare beauty. J.O'.
Indeed.
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Very recently, my visit to the post office produced this lobster or gentlemans' pattern or style of pocket knife. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. It also became the latest example to be added to my general, pocket knife accumulation. It is an ORANGE CUTLERY COMPANY, one blade, one tool (a file with a blade tip), two tang stamps, 3" closed, lobster or gentlemans', pattern or style of pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "ORANGE (over) CUT. CO. (over) WALDEN, N.Y." The tool back tang stamp also says, "ORANGE (over) CUT. CO. (over) WALDEN, N.Y." The main handle side has a MASONIC symbol, logo or emblem. The main blade has a SOFT half stop, a GOOD opening snap and a GOOD closing snap. The tool also has a SOFT half stop, but it does have a GOOD opening snap and a GOOD closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is in VERY GOOD condition. This pocket knife did NOT need any cleaning at all. I just wiped it off. I took some pictures and here it is.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Tool Back Tang Stamp.
The Tool Back Tang Stamp.
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Not too recently, this pocket knife arrived in a group or lot of pocket knives that I bought. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. I did NOT purchase the group or lot of pocket knives to obtain this particular pocket knife. But, it did turn out to be a keeper. It made a VERY nice addition to my general, pocket knife accumulation. It is a SHEFFIELD STEEL, two blades, one tang stamp, 2 5/8" closed, one spring, all metal, pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "SHEFFIELD (over) STEEL" The main handle side has some minor designs. The other handle side also has some minor designs. The main blade does have a GOOD half stop. The main blade has an OK opening snap. The main blade has an OK closing snap. The secondary blade also has a GOOD half stop. The secondary blade has a GOOD opening snap. The secondary blade has a GOOD closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is in VERY GOOD condition.
I gave it a VERY minor cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
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ONLY using GOINS', I could NOT find any information regarding this pocket knife or tang stamp.
There is a "SHEFFIELD CUTLERY CO.", a "SHEFFIELD ENGLAND STAINLESS", a "SHEFFIELD FINE CUTLERY CO. INC.",
a "SHEFFIELD KNIFE CO. CUTLERS TO HER MAJESTY", a "SHEFFIELD STEEL ENGLAND", a "SHEFFIELD STEEL MADE IN USA",
a "SHEFFIELD STEEL-GROUND IN GERMANY" and a "SHEFFIELD MFG. CORP." listed. There is NO "SHEFFIELD STEEL" listed.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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These 4 check all the boxes, over 100 years old and pretty rare.
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Those are great :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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1967redrider wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:57 pm Sweet ol' knives guys! ::tu::

tjmurphy, I have seen and collected a few Othello fixed blade knives but yours are the first folders. I didn't know they made them, thanks for showing. ::drool::
Ditto, his fixed are fairly well known.
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Just searched this thread and the entire site and have not found another one posted :shock:

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Miller Bro's wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 12:05 am Just.....
Dimitri, there may be some relevant, additional information on Paris Bead Knives here. ::shrug::
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... hp?t=40385

Or here. ::shrug::
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Thanks Skip, didn't see those ::tu:: :D
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Another unusual one from Roger, L.L.H. Co, Cleveland OH. Lockwood-Luetkemeyer-Henry Co was a hardware store selling cutlery along with many other items. This is a large fat 4" jumbo jack with a pronounced swell to the tail end of the knife. Interestingly enough it has a faint McIntosh Heather etch, McIntosh Heather was another Cleveland hardware store that L.L.H. acquired around 1911, looks like they continued to use the McIntosh name. Probably one of the most unusual variations of a jack knife I have in the collection.
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Here's a rare old bare-head jack by Kay Bros., N.Y. and a copy of a conversation I had about it a few years ago with IT632ret. J.O'.
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You're on another roll JR.

I am absolutely in love with the Kay Bros JO, I'll explain to you why.😊
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JohnR wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:26 pm Another unusual one from Roger, L.L.H. Co, Cleveland OH. Lockwood-Luetkemeyer-Henry Co was a hardware store selling cutlery along with many other items. This is a large fat 4" jumbo jack with a pronounced swell to the tail end of the knife. Interestingly enough it has a faint McIntosh Heather etch, McIntosh Heather was another Cleveland hardware store that L.L.H. acquired around 1911, looks like they continued to use the McIntosh name. Probably one of the most unusual variations of a jack knife I have in the collection.
John, Thank you for the pics and info.
That knife is top shelf! Wow ::tu:: ::tu::
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Ridgegrass wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:30 pm Here's a rare old bare-head jack by Kay Bros., N.Y. and a copy of a conversation I had about it a few years ago with IT632ret. J.O'.
J.O. Very interesting reading that info from IT632ret .
Thanks for sharing the pics and info. !
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Regarding Kay Brothers, a little easier to read.....
lt632ret wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:48 am I have been involved with this subject for 60 years actually more. The reason I suggested the book is because this particular part of history is almost forgotten. I will try to summerize some of this without a long dissertation George Kay was born in England. he came to this country and ( This is tough with out going into long specifics ) suffice it to say that he was a cutler. He was know as one of the first to produce the HOBO (knife fork and spoon combo) in this country ( NOTE this type of knife was well known in England he did not invent it.) However he was among the first to introduce it here. It became a favorite of troops during the civil; war. Soon other companies began making similar knives. Kay had a factory at Dashville falls not far from NewPaltz NY about 20 miles from Walden famous then for NY Knife. ( who also began producing these obo type knives ). Now prior to his making a factory at Dashville falls . It was an explosives factory and would regulary explode being felt throughout the area. In any event Kay did invent and patent at least one item related to knives. ( I am doing this by memory so I am not doing dates and am just trying to give a general explanation. Now Kay had sons his original George Kay tang was replaced with several variations son which are lost. I believe there was a George Kay and son, then the Kay Brothers. then Dashville.Probably more, After the civil war supposidly Kay moved to Walden I Suspect that he was tied up with Bradley Of NYKnife I believe he sold his equiptment to NYK who for a while produced on contract knives marked Kay Bros but definitely Dashville. I have examples of this and pictures of these marks in my book. This is just a cursory synopsis. I hope it helps. These knives have little monetary value but are a part of history and were never plentiful so are quite rare. it is only important to insane fanatics such as myself simply to fill in pieces of the puzzle. There is much more but perhapes this will suffice. One last thing I traced the last Kay in Walden ( which is three miles from where I live. He died without family and worked at the same bank of which Bradley was on the board of directors). it all ties together. Again should you be willing to part with the knife it would certainly fill a piece of the puzzle of this history. I hope this helps. Highest regards LT (How I am known).
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