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Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:34 am
by Ripster
Evening Folks finally got a little time to post ,here’s latest in the mail . Received this High Carbon 3 blade bone covered piece . It’s tight ,no cracks in the bone,has some wear on main . Will clean it up ,sharpen it some and carry it now and then . Also show the 5 blade High Carbon bought awhile back from Cal here at the forum . May have shown that one here or in the Cattle knife area,either way here’s another pic or 2 . Both knives are 3 and 5/8 inches long and are very well built. The weight and feel of these oldies is something else that draws me to them ,some great craftsmanship back then .
Take care ,catch you all next time . ::tu::

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:49 am
by doglegg
Pretty ole knives. ::tu::

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:10 am
by Gone2Three
Ripster wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:34 am Evening Folks finally got a little time to post ,here’s latest in the mail . Received this High Carbon 3 blade bone covered piece . It’s tight ,no cracks in the bone,has some wear on main . Will clean it up ,sharpen it some and carry it now and then . Also show the 5 blade High Carbon bought awhile back from Cal here at the forum . May have shown that one here or in the Cattle knife area,either way here’s another pic or 2 . Both knives are 3 and 5/8 inches long and are very well built. The weight and feel of these oldies is something else that draws me to them ,some great craftsmanship back then .
Take care ,catch you all next time . ::tu::
You've got some nice ones there, like your display case set up as well ::tu::
Randy

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:19 am
by Ripster
Here’s a High Carbon Trapper . Not a big fan of trappers but this one is one will tote once in awhile . Solid knife ,solid half stops and great snap . Nice bone covers and no brass . Made in the 1930 s by Camillus . Thought would oil it up and slip it in pocket for a day or 2 .

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:40 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 12:19 am Here’s.....
JP, that is one TERRIFIC L👀KING piece of pocket cutlery!! ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:36 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Recently, this became the latest pocket knife to join my "general" CAMILLUS collection. It came in a large group of pocket knives that I bought, but not for this particular knife. It's a CAMCO USA, two blades, one tang stamp, 3 1/8" closed (not including the bail), fob or key ring style pocket knife. Except for a missing bolster, a tiny crack in one scale and some blade wear, it's in pretty decent shape. The blades needed to be cleaned. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:22 pm
by Ripster
Here’s a little piece with a few years on it . Two different stamps . The main has A KASTOR & BROS over NEW YORK and a full line under NEW YORK . The other Blade is stamped KASTOR over NEW YORK and a line under that and bottom line is GERMANY . Nice tight piece and the Scissors still cut very well !
So did the one blade come from Germany and built here ? Or other way around . Being the BROS is stamped on one blade would that put it early 1900 ,say before WW2 ? Any help with this one would be great.
Take care out there ::tu::

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:42 pm
by phil0175
Ripster wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:22 pm Here’s a little piece with a few years on it . Two different stamps . The main has A KASTOR & BROS over NEW YORK and a full line under NEW YORK . The other Blade is stamped KASTOR over NEW YORK and a line under that and bottom line is GERMANY . Nice tight piece and the Scissors still cut very well !
So did the one blade come from Germany and built here ? Or other way around . Being the BROS is stamped on one blade would that put it early 1900 ,say before WW2 ? Any help with this one would be great.
Take care out there ::tu::
I like those two! Sweet!
👍

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:33 pm
by Waukonda
Ripster wrote: Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:22 pm Here’s a little piece with a few years on it . Two different stamps . The main has A KASTOR & BROS over NEW YORK and a full line under NEW YORK . The other Blade is stamped KASTOR over NEW YORK and a line under that and bottom line is GERMANY . Nice tight piece and the Scissors still cut very well !
So did the one blade come from Germany and built here ? Or other way around . Being the BROS is stamped on one blade would that put it early 1900 ,say before WW2 ? Any help with this one would be great.
Take care out there ::tu::
Can't help, but nice knife. I hadn't explored this thread before this morning, good stuff here.

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:08 am
by Ripster
Thanks much Phil and Ike . You Fellas been known to show some pretty nice stuff .
It’s fun learning this stuff about these older pieces .
Stay warm out there.

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:53 am
by TPK
Sweet additions JP & Skip! ::tu:: Congrats friends! ::handshake:: :D

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:35 am
by New_Windsor_NY
TPK wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:53 am Sweet.....
Thank you, Tom. 🍻

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:00 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
These two pocket knives recently arrived in separate groups or lots of pocket knives that I bought. These two particular pocket knives were NOT the targets of my purchases. They are both SYRACUSE, both have a single blade with a cap lifter or bottle opener, both have a corkscrew, both have a single tang stamp, both measure 2 7/8" closed and both are "bartender" pattern or style pocket knives. The tang stamps read "SYRACUSE - KNIFE - CO. - USA" They are both in GOOD condition. The last picture shows the two, paired up.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 4:25 am
by #goldpan
Nice looking knives Skip ::tu:: thanks for sharing!

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:22 am
by New_Windsor_NY
#goldpan wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:25 am Nice.....
I'm just a wee bit late in replying. ::facepalm::
I apologize.
Thank you, Randy. 🍻

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:39 pm
by GSPTOPDOG
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:00 pm These two pocket knives recently arrived in separate groups or lots of pocket knives that I bought. These two particular pocket knives were NOT the targets of my purchases. They are both SYRACUSE, both have a single blade with a cap lifter or bottle opener, both have a corkscrew, both have a single tang stamp, both measure 2 7/8" closed and both are "bartender" pattern or style pocket knives. The tang stamps read "SYRACUSE - KNIFE - CO. - USA" They are both in GOOD condition. The last picture shows the two, paired up.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
Looks like 'bout the same as my Camillus stamped knife. I guess they made the blades all in the same area then stamped them accordingly down the production line. ::hmm::

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:37 am
by GSPTOPDOG
My book says that Camillus was the maker for Henry Sears and Son 1865 brand. Was this knife made by Camillus? Any idea when it was made?

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:08 pm
by Hellomynameis
Found this knife on a family members farm it is a cutlery co knife made 1925-1940 (cutlery co was a company used by camillus)

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:53 am
by Todd44044
JohnR wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:55 pm Picked up this Fairmount, normally I don't buy celluloid knives but this one was in such good shape and the celluloid so pretty I went ahead. From what I understand Fairmount was a Camillus brand before WW2.
That is a beauty! Thank you for sharing!

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:00 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
A couple of days ago, this pocket knife arrived in a group or lot of pocket knives that I purchased. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. I did NOT purchase the group or lot of pocket knives to obtain this particular pocket knife. However, it definitely turned out to be a keeper. It will be a most welcomed addition to my general, CAMILLUS, pocket knife accumulation. It is a KENT, two blades, one tang stamp, 3 3/8" closed, a long blade pull, two springs, pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says, "KENT (over) N.Y. CITY (over) U.S.A." The main blade has a CRISP half stop, a GOOD opening snap and a GOOD closing snap. The secondary blade has a CRISP half stop, a GOOD opening snap and a GOOD closing snap. Overall, this pocket knife is in VERY GOOD condition. I gave it a VERY minor cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:06 pm
by dlr110
That is a very excellent looking knife sir. What would be the approximate age of it?

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:15 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
dlr110 wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:06 pm That.....
Thank you, David. 🍻
As far as age, per GOINS'.....

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:55 pm
by bleasure
Questions for the holders of lore here. I picked up a fantastic 'coffin bolster' 4-line I had never seen before, that led to questions about its provenance. This led to a rabbit hole about the 'other brands,' after reading orvet's very interesting post about a display on Camillus "coffin bolster" knives at the 2016 OKCA show. This led to the questions I pose here below

Some relevant background - my interest in Camillus stems from growing up down the pike from them, in South Onondaga/Onondaga Hill NY. I collect certain Camillus knives that catch my eye. My preferences are largely 1. utilitarian, i.e. I actually use them, and 2. aesthetic, i.e. I don't like the final post '89 stamp they used so don't collect any of those if I can help it, lol. In other words there's no completist logic operating here, and I'm only interested in knives made where I'm from. This bears on my questions.


First: that pdf linked in the first post on this thread with the big list of brands doesn't open for me. Is the link dead? If so, does anyone have access to the full list anywhere?

Second: is there a list of, or knowledge about, knives *exclusively* made in/by Camillus, or that provides clarity about which of the many other brands are
1. knives imported from Europe
2. knives manufactured to spec for outside brands/companies (e.g. Hibbard Spencer Bartlett & Company) that were *also* made by many other suppliers, making it impossible to say for sure whether x or y knife was actually made by Camillus
3. Specific knives, like the Buck 301, that are known with certainty to have been made by Camillus in such-and-such a range of years?

Reason for the above being, it's becoming clear to me that many of the 'other' brands are Camillus knives in such a loose sense that for my purposes I don't think they can reasonably be considered as such. For example, the many Kastor import brands (Wadsworth? Morley?) that appear to be exclusively German-made, or the many domestic brands (e.g. Henry Sears & Son) that contracted out to many different knfe manufacturers, and so on. It appears that any brand associated with the Kastors, whose business dealings seem to have involved importing knives from Germany, Austria, and even the UK, is included here, given their ownership of Camillus. That makes sense on one level, as an interest in any knives associated with the company that owned Camillus. For someone who wants only to collect knives manufactured in his home town by people working at Camillus, however, this presents complications.


From what I understand, the following non-Camillus brands appear to be exclusively made by Camillus, in Camillus NY:
  • Syracuse
    Fairmount
    Camco
    Federal
    Sta-Sharp
    Stainless Cutlery Co.
    Streamline
    Sears Roebuck (High-Carbon, Kwik Kut?)
    Cornwall Knife Co.
    Any & all "Sword Brand"
    *Some* Clover Brand, marked "Syracuse"
    *Some* Kastor, marked NY
These are Camillus-associated brands, made by many other possible manufacturers - are any exclusively Camillus (e.g. Kent?)
  • Kent
    Hibbard, Spencer, and Bartlett / OVB
    Henry Sears & Son
    Shumate
    Van camp
    Curtin & Clark
    Keen Kutter
    Lipic
    Sears Roebuck (Craftsman & Dunlap?)
    Diamond Edge
    Mumbly Peg
These are Kastor imports and as far as I can tell, have little to no relation to Camillus NY. Am I mistaken?
  • W.H. Morley
    W.M. Endersmer
    Germania
    J. Koster
    Most Clover-marked knives
    Most Kastor
I welcome corrections and any other light-shedding. Thanks!

Re: The Other Brands

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2026 10:00 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Not too recently, this pocket knife arrived in a group or lot of pocket knives that I purchased. It now becomes my latest example to be posted under this topic or thread. I did NOT purchase the group or lot of pocket knives to obtain this particular pocket knife. It did get tossed into my box of “broken” pocket knives. I am posting this pocket knife because it can still be USED FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. It is a KENT, two blades (main is broken), one tang stamp, 3 3/8" closed, two springs, pocket knife. The main blade stub, front tang stamp says, "KENT (over) N.Y. CITY (over) U.S.A." The main blade STUB does have a GOOD half stop. The main blade STUB does have a GOOD opening snap. The main blade STUB does have a GOOD closing snap. The secondary blade does have a GOOD half stop. The secondary blade does have a GOOD opening snap. The secondary blade does have a GOOD closing snap. Even with the broken main blade, this pocket knife is still in FAIR condition. This pocket knife did NOT need cleaning. I just wiped it off. I took some pictures and here it is. This pocket knife is a CAMILLUS, “OTHER BRAND” pocket knife.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.