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Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:03 am
by QTCut5
bdev wrote:Hi Q,
That is one fantastic looking knife and definitely a keeper.
I found what I believe is your knife in the No. 2 S&M catalog reprint. The handles might be a bit different but it looks like the same pattern. Pattern number 2156. S&M called the handles Imitation Stag.
It certainly looks like you nailed it, Bruno...pattern #2156...always good to know such details...I'll make a note of that in my files for future reference. Thanks for doing the research.
Although these two aren't nearly as old as my Wharncliffe Half-Whittler, they are a couple other sweet Schatts that survived the cull and are also ones I consider keepers. They both have interior Mammoth Ivory handles. The the "Custom Shop Made" blade etch and the acorn shield on the Wharncliffe Trapper are fairly unique. I don't know how often S&M used an acorn shield on their knives, but based on my observations, it wasn't very often. The COA that came with that one says it is 1 of only 2 made.
The Teardrop/Bomber Jack isn't a pattern I collect, in fact, it's the only one I have like it in my entire collection. But, I just couldn't resist that gorgeous Mammoth Ivory...absolutely love that stuff.
~Q~
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:53 pm
by Quick Steel
Q those are two superbly beautiful knives. Congratulations.

Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:16 pm
by jerryd6818
This is the one recently sent to me by Tommy (carmillus). Ain't she a beaut? It was very generous of him and I just love it.
Risner had (and maybe still does have) these for $25. How can you pass that up? Cute and stag to boot, I just had to have one. Others may have shown one but this one is mine.
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:34 pm
by carrmillus
..........I think I sent that one to the right person!!!!......

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Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:14 pm
by QTCut5
Here are some S&M Mini Trappers:

- No Shield

- "New York" tang stamp
~Q~
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:11 pm
by S2K
Lovely Q!

I take it the 'New York' tang stamp is special. Can you tell me more?
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:14 am
by Billswfl
The New York tang stamp was used on the Premier Series. Here is a link to the Premier Series thread
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=15483&hilit=premier
It was also the oldest Schatt & Morgan tang stamp 1897-1902
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:16 pm
by RalphAlsip
Billswfl wrote:The New York tang stamp was used on the Premier Series. It was also the oldest Schatt & Morgan tang stamp 1897-1902
For those interested, the following link from a post earlier in the thread will show a picture of the S&M Gowanda, NY stamp.
download/file.php?id=324626&mode=view
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:13 am
by S2K
This gunstock jack is my first S&M. Quite nice.
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:25 am
by Brumbydownunder
S2K wrote:This gunstock jack is my first S&M. Quite nice.
Probably won't be your last I'm guessing .... Love those big bold deep clip blades with lots of belly... they make a statement!
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:00 pm
by S2K
Thanks! The bolster threading angles are just about perfect too.
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:05 am
by FarSide
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:19 pm
by carrmillus
........BINGO!!!!...............

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Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:51 pm
by bigbore
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:30 pm
by Quick Steel
FarSide and bigbore you are showing some might sharp looking S&Ms.

Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:20 am
by FarSide
Beautiful clip on that Coke Bottle bigbore.
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:40 am
by bigbore
Thanks. Always apreciate your comments.
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:53 pm
by Sharpnshinyknives
Got this beautiful S&M Wharncliffe Whittler from kj(Roland). By no means my first Schatt and Morgan, but my first ivory S&M. This knife is over the top.
SSk
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:59 pm
by carrmillus
...love that knife, but I just can't make myself like ivory!!!!..........

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Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:02 pm
by Quick Steel
SSk, To state the obvious, that is a beautiful knife. Fine coloring on the ivory.
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:08 pm
by kennedy knives
Nice S&M Mark

Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:13 pm
by Railsplitter
Outstanding Mark!
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:31 pm
by Sharpnshinyknives
Thanks guys. I have been avoiding ivory or mammoth ivory simply due to how hard it’s getting to sell. But when Roland offered me this one, I just couldn’t say no. This has a classical look to it. It’s what I always imagined a “true” knife should look like.
Mark
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:24 am
by QTCut5
Sharpnshinyknives wrote:By no means my first Schatt and Morgan, but my first ivory S&M.
SSk
carrmillus wrote:...love that knife, but I just can't make myself like ivory!!!!
There are many different types of ivory; so, just in case anyone wasn't sure, Mark's 1997 S&M Wharncliffe Whittler is interior Mammoth ivory, not Elephant ivory (or Walrus, Warthog or Narwhal ivory, etc.). The S&M Bomber Jack and Wharncliffe Trapper I posted earlier in this thread are from the same year and have interior mammoth ivory handles just like it...presumably from the same batch of interior mammoth ivory S&M used on all their ivory knives that year.
I'll show my two again, just for comparison (and because I can!)
~Q~
Re: Who's into S & M?
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:05 am
by Sharpnshinyknives
QTCut5 wrote:Sharpnshinyknives wrote:By no means my first Schatt and Morgan, but my first ivory S&M.
SSk
carrmillus wrote:...love that knife, but I just can't make myself like ivory!!!!
There are many different types of ivory; so, just in case anyone wasn't sure, Mark's 1997 S&M Wharncliffe Whittler is interior Mammoth ivory, not Elephant ivory (or Walrus, Warthog or Narwhal ivory, etc.). The S&M Bomber Jack and Wharncliffe Trapper I posted earlier in this thread are from the same year and have interior mammoth ivory handles just like it...presumably from the same batch of interior mammoth ivory S&M used on all their ivory knives that year.
I'll show my two again, just for comparison (and because I can!)
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~Q~
QS, Thank you for telling me this. That will go into my records so that down the road there is no problem selling for someone this. Although I suspect that mammoth ivory will be just as hard to sell in the future as elephant ivory. I have gone round after round w/ eBay over this issue already.
QS, those two you posted are extremely nice. They have that “true” knife look also.
SSk