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Posted: **Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:39 pm**

WillyCamaro wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:19 pm I don't know what "PED" means, could you educate me?
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Willy

"PED" -- Performance Enhancing Drugs -- Kinda like a corked bat in pill or liquid form.

Posted: **Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:53 pm**

Oooo-k, I know about that crap

, just had a memory slip-up ….

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Cyclists that do drugs make me super mad! They make it bad for us decent fellers that just want to have fun on a bike, it reflects terribly on the sport as a whole. 1 sour apple wrecks the whole basket ::bad_day::

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Willy

Posted: **Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:58 pm**

WillyCamaro wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:19 pm When you put it that way, ya, it's totally cheating when they use technology.
I was thinking of old school signal stealing, like what you said there. I don't follow football so I didn't know about that on. I don't know what "PED" means, could you educate me?
Sorry bout that , I stand corrected .
Willy

Willy,

It appears that I misinterpreted your meaning and what you were saying...my bust.

PED = Performance Enhancing Drugs (i.e., steroids, etc.)

Posted: **Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:05 pm**

No problem man

. It happens to me all the time

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Willy

Posted: **Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:08 pm**

The fallout from the Astros’ cheating scandal continues. Besides Houston firing their GM Luhnow and on-field manager Hinch, the Red Sox fired manager Alex Cora (who was a coach for Houston during the cheating), and recently-hired Mets manager Carlos Beltran just resigned. Beltran was a player for Houston on that team, and allegedly one of the ring-leaders. Which is a shame because he was a solid player and I always liked him.

This is shaping up as the worst scandal since the infamous 1919 Chicago “Black Sox”.

Ken

Posted: **Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:37 pm**

I agree Ken. I could see a lawsuits in the future. I’m sure this has cost pitchers money.

Posted: **Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:10 pm**

I believe they should vacate both teams World Series championships.

Posted: **Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:20 pm**

edge213 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:10 pm I believe they should vacate both teams World Series championships.

Me too.

Posted: **Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:58 pm**

This is a huge deal, one aspect is 3 teams now have to hire managers only 1 month before spring training. This will likely impact the teams seasons and how will things unfold with coaches that were with teams that were part of the cheating. Will they be blacklisted by MLB teams and essentially their MLB careers are over. One could say as far as the Astros and Red Sox, so be it. But did the Mets organization know anything about this before they hired Beltran?

Posted: **Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:20 pm**

I knew it would only be a matter of time before the Mets were roped into the 'conspiracy' talk.

Posted: **Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:59 pm**

I got my Spring Training tickets yesterday!

The purchase for spring training was much more exciting when I lived in Connecticut than now [my neck of the woods in Florida was 80's yesterday and today]

I still watch NFL most weekends and very rarely watch NHL. MLB has become my favorite spectator sport in the past few years.

Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:28 am**

I heard from a co-worker in Houston that the players were running this and the manager knew nothing about it. Hard to swallow but possible I suppose. And I agree that the championships should be vacated too. The team(s) and owners should be made to feel the pain.

Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:41 am**

What a mess! Almost (or maybe just) as bad as the 1919 Black Sox that created the Baseball Commissioner. Who's the Arnold Rothstein this time?

Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:00 am**

steve99f wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:28 am I heard from a co-worker in Houston that the players were running this and the manager knew nothing about it. Hard to swallow but possible I suppose. And I agree that the championships should be vacated too. The team(s) and owners should be made to feel the pain.

I find that very difficult to believe. That the GM didn’t know is at least somewhat plausible. But the manager is in the dugout, in the locker room, on the field during practices, etc. If the stories I have seen and heard are true, players receiving signals from someone in the center field stands, and relaying them to another player who then banged signals on a garbage can loudly enough that the batter could hear them? It doesn’t seem possible that someone in the dugout every game could miss that.

As widespread as it was, the very least he should have heard the players talking about it.

I recall when Yu Darvish was pitching for the Dodgers against Houston in the playoffs and got knocked out of the game, in I think the second inning, after giving up several runs already. He said afterward he thought he must have been somehow tipping off his pitches because the Astros were hitting him like they knew what was coming. Turns out they did.

Ken

Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:11 pm**

It also evolved into something more sophisticated than banging on a garbage can, Jose Altuve and others wore a buzzer under their shirts to tip them as to what was coming. I agree, the manager MUST have know something was going on.

Posted: **Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:24 pm**

Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:00 am
steve99f wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:28 am I heard from a co-worker in Houston that the players were running this and the manager knew nothing about it. Hard to swallow but possible I suppose. And I agree that the championships should be vacated too. The team(s) and owners should be made to feel the pain.
I find that very difficult to believe. That the GM didn’t know is at least somewhat plausible. But the manager is in the dugout, in the locker room, on the field during practices, etc. If the stories I have seen and heard are true, players receiving signals from someone in the center field stands, and relaying them to another player who then banged signals on a garbage can loudly enough that the batter could hear them? It doesn’t seem possible that someone in the dugout every game could miss that. As widespread as it was, the very least he should have heard the players talking about it.

I recall when Yu Darvish was pitching for the Dodgers against Houston in the playoffs and got knocked out of the game, in I think the second inning, after giving up several runs already. He said afterward he thought he must have been somehow tipping off his pitches because the Astros were hitting him like they knew what was coming. Turns out they did.

Ken

Ken

I agree its hard to believe the Manager didn't know, he's right there in the dug out. Keeping a secret among 25+ is impossible.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:41 pm**

Can you imagine what might happen when the Astros play the Yankees in New York this coming season? I don't know if the Astros have an inter league series with the Dodgers this year, but if they do what do you think will happen when Altuve or Bregman step into the box????? All summer long there is going to be some serious head hunting by pitchers opposing the Astros. "Did you know that it was a 100 MPH fastball coming that hit you in the head?" I don't think the pitchers will care if they get suspended, as long as they get a chance to bean one of them.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:55 pm**

Don’t forget the Red Sox, who won it all in 2018 are implicated in this scandal too. Cora, who was with the Astros in 2017 and Boston in 2018, has been fired by Boston. The implication being Cora took the Astros’ cheating scheme with him to Boston. It’s my understand that situation is under investigation.

I agree it will be interesting to see what happens in the games this year, and how “official” MLB deals with whatever happens on the field. I bet the players will extract revenge some how, but it may not be as obvious as “beanballs”. The Yankees/Red Sox rivalry may get even more heated!

Ken

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:05 pm**

Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:55 pm Don’t forget the Red Sox, who won it all in 2018 are implicated in this scandal too. Cora, who was with the Astros in 2017 and Boston in 2018, has been fired by Boston. The implication being Cora took the Astros’ cheating scheme with him to Boston. It’s my understand that situation is under investigation.

I agree it will be interesting to see what happens in the games this year, and how “official” MLB deals with it. I bet the players will extract revenge some how, but it may not be as obvious as “beanballs”. The Yankees/Red Sox rivalry may get even more heated!

Ken

You are right, I forgot to include the Red Sox. Some teams over the past few years have been using "openers", who begin the game, pitch one inning or so, then turn it over to a starter. Some teams could revise this to be an opener that beans the first Astros batter or so, is ejected from the game, and then the starter comes in. Could even be an unknown minor leaguer that gets paid to do this job. Beanballs have flown between Major League teams in the past for far more obscure reasons.

Posted: **Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:28 pm**

My goodness. With a little tweaking, it's a modern day Blacksox Scandal a hundred years later. Boy, I tell ya. That American League. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Posted: **Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:17 pm**

fergusontd wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:39 pm Cincinnati Reds going to the World Series in 2020.......and if you buy that! BTW sign stealing, been going on for years. There's cheating in every sport in some way! ftd

Hey, the Reds just moved one step closer to Series contention in 2020. If nothing else, they will be an entertaining team to watch this year. They also, probably now lead the league in number of Greek surnames on the roster.

Posted: **Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:55 pm**

Pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training in just two weeks!

Are you ready for some Baseball!?

Ken

Posted: **Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:29 pm**

Feb 11th - Cubs pitchers & catchers report.

I'm ready for baseball but is baseball ready for me?

From everything I hear, Cubs are going to end up with a crap team and with this new Cubs station in limbo, we won't be able to see them until half way through the season if at all.

Posted: **Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:27 pm**

Jerry, one of the good things about baseball is listening to games on the radio!

Ken

Posted: **Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:47 pm**

We're going to try to get Opening Day tickets. I last did Opening Day in 2006, the second year of Nationals baseball.

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