SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:12 pm

Good observation, Hukk. These are ALL considered Case Greenbone; quite a variation.
We need someone with more experience to tell us more about Schrade's Greenbone. LT??

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:48 pm

I will not be posting for a few days due to a death in the family. My dad has been failing for some time. No condolances are necessary I am sure you all understand . I simply did not want to seem impolite by not responding . LT

W5RWU · Post by **W5RWU** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:00 am

LT, I understand.
Randy

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:44 am

I found another picture of a Peachseed Cut Co. Jack.
I figured I'd keep this thread going, for LT, and for all of us!

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:00 am

hey charlie, i like the diagonal ridges cut into that last cut.co. peechseed.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:48 pm

jonet143 wrote:hey charlie, i like the diagonal ridges cut into that last cut.co. peechseed.

Peachseed is usually more random; I agree johnnie, it's a happy accident.
Here's one I've been hunting for ever since I saw LT's! It's only the second one I've seen, and in excellent plus shape. Some of you may have seen it go down on the bay. I better buy my wife something real nice

!
If this is a doctor's knife, it must be for a veterinarian who busts horse pills. It's a hair shy of 4" long.

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:25 pm

Damned nice Charlie! You do have a knack for finding these near mint beauties.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:58 pm

You are no slouch either, Eric! Glad you like it!

gmusic · Post by **gmusic** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:04 am

Very nice Charlie!

I really like the squared off butt cap.................

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:06 am

upnorth wrote:
jonet143 wrote:hey charlie, i like the diagonal ridges cut into that last cut.co. peechseed.
Peachseed is usually more random; I agree johnnie, it's a happy accident.
Here's one I've been hunting for ever since I saw LT's! It's only the second one I've seen, and in excellent plus shape. Some of you may have seen it go down on the bay. I better buy my wife something real nice !
If this is a doctor's knife, it must be for a veterinarian who busts horse pills. It's a hair shy of 4" long.

Oh.....My. I think I'm in love

Paul M · Post by **Paul M** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:24 am

Charlie,
4" Knives require deep pockets!
That is one of the best I've seen, I've watched you pick up some beauties
on the bay.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:24 am

Paul M wrote:Charlie,
4" Knives require deep pockets!
That is one of the best I've seen, I've watched you pick up some beauties
on the bay.

I think that knife requires deep pockets in more ways than one!

Super nice find Charlie! Love that peach seed!

Dale

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:05 pm

Didn't need such deep pockets for these three, from a Texas traders knife list; arrived today. The Congress is a bit worn. The whittler is the little brother of Eric's "Carpenter's" whittler.
Eric, is there a number on yours??

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:09 pm

I like that Barlow!

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:14 pm

orvet wrote:I like that Barlow!

Then you'll probably like this one Dale. I bought it in 2005, and was hoping to find the clip blade to complement it. Lucked out in Texas.

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:38 pm

Charlie,

Yes, mine's #804. Were those from a private collection

, that is some nice find!

Eric

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:58 pm

ea42 wrote:Charlie,

Yes, mine's #804. Were those from a private collection , that is some nice find!

Eric

Thanks, and yes, a private collection, Eric. He's got a couple of stockmen a 3 1/2" and a 4" I am negotiating for. A little pricey though.
The number on my whittler is 836, BTW.
CC

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:09 am

Charlie,
The 1953 catalog lists the 836: 3-9/16" Serpentine pattern; large saber clip, small clip & pen blades; black celluloid handle; brass liners, N/S bolsters & shield - from the 1953 catalog.

The 1953 & 1954 catalogs list it as black celluloid handles. The next catalog I have is 1957 and the handles are listed as black plastic. The 1947 catalog lists the old number as 8364 3/8B and lists the handles as black celluloid. The last catalog I see the 836 in is the 1958.

I do find your knife in the Catalog E (published in 1971 by A.G. Russell). It is listed as S8363 3/8 "Carpenter's Knife, Serpentine pattern, 3-9/16 inches long; three blades (large saber clip, coping pen and regular pen); brass lined; nickel silver bolsters and shield; cleaned inside; blades full crocus polished; Bone Stag handle."
It also lists the black celluloid as # S8364 3/8B

Perhaps you can give me a little education in the old Schrade numbering system.

Does your knife have the whole #8363 3/8 on the tang? I don't have enough Cut Co.s to know how the old numbers were stamped. It is interesting that the blades say Schrade Walden (which would put it after 1947, I think, but it is a Cut Co. pattern, at least not a pattern I can find in any Schrade Walden catalog I have, (not that I have them all).

It would appear that possibly you have a knife made around the time of the change over between Cut. Co. & Schrade Walden as it appears (to me at least) to be a Cut Co. pattern with a Schrade Walden tang stamp.

Please let me know if I am all wet, but that is what it appears to me.
Excellent knife BTW!

Dale

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:22 am

There are some beautiful peachseed's being shown, and don't want to get entirely off topic, but thought I'd show this fairly clean little 834Y birdseye stockman I picked up two weekends ago for $10. Never been sharpened, just allowed to get a couple small spots on it.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:53 am

hey kaleb, someone done wore off all the peachseed jigging!

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:37 am

Dale, the knife just has 836 stamped on the back, typical of many Waldens. I haven't done a comparison of numbers; perhaps it's time to do so. I hope LT will have some info to add when he's feeling up to it!

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:52 am

Dale,
On the Cut. Co. knives, The first number is for the number of blades, in this case the 8 means 3 blades ( 2 blades in one end and one in the other). The second and third numbers are pattern style, I believe 36 is Serpentine. The last number is for handle style, 3 being bone stag, and 4 being celluloid. When the knife is cell, there is a letter after the fourth number indicating color (there were 24 colors available!), hence the B for black.The fraction means a blade was substituted for the small spear blade, in this case though, the fraction is 3/8, which isn't used in their normal fraction code. The S prefix means it's a special finish or combination.
When they switched to Schrade Walden, they kept a lot of the base numbers but ditched the extras since they stopped offering the multitude of options that were available previously. The peachseed was only available on the Waldens for a few years in the late fifties until the old supply ran out, which is why I believe they don't show up on the catalogs.

Eric

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:44 pm

Thanks for that clear, concise explanation Eric! I can tell you study and care about the subject; A+!!

Here for your Friday ogling delight, is a knife I am pretty sure Empire made for Schrade Cut. Co. It is the early style electrician's knife, with the locking screwdriver released by depressing the main blade!
To my knowledge, only Empire made these. The tooling was complicated, and the pattern was replaced by the more fool-proof liner lock.
Both blades stamped Schrade Cut. Co.

BIGHEAD · Post by **BIGHEAD** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:41 am

ONLY HAVE ONE SCHRADE

IT WAS MY GRANDFATHERS

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:37 am

Nice one Bighead, any knife with sentimental value like that one is priceless IMHO.

Charlie,
That's VERY interesting. That knife first shows up in the 1930 supplement catalog as No. 23311SD, which coincides (sp?) with the last year of Empires existence.(Correct me if I'm wrong on that). If that's the case, I don't imagine there were too many of those made

.

PS- In case you all think I have all those pattern numbers commited to memory (I'm afraid good old Jack Daniels did a number on that back in my college days

), it can all be found on pages 8 and 9 of catalog E.

Here's a sleeveboard that nearly converted itself to a smooth bone: