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Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:32 am
by orvet
Charlie,
I do see the similarities between the pic you posted & your avatar, except you don’t have as much white hair in this new pic. Must be an older pic.

Dale
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:31 am
by upnorth
orvet wrote:Charlie,
I do see the similarities between the pic you posted & your avatar, except you don’t have as much white hair in this new pic. Must be an older pic.

Dale
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah; I was young and tough back then, Dale, but I didn't have much focus in my life!! :shock: :shock: :mrgreen:

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:21 pm
by orvet
ROFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:36 pm
by Another Knife Collector
Schrade Cut Co hawkbill - Bit of a project in this one, what you can't see in the before picture is the two more layers of red and green paint under the white. It cleaned up fairly well and was a fun project. :D

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:53 pm
by muskrat man
nice grain underneath that paint. I love the rat tailed bolsters on a hawkbill

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:18 am
by upnorth
Nice restoration of that Hawk, AKC!! Never give up on a nice old goodie; could be a hidden gem like that one!!

While digging out a duplicate to sell to a friend, I got most of my Schrade HJs in one location, so took this scan. It is nice to see them all together, to spot the variations over the years. I've added a scan of some of the punches for comparison as well. I hope this is of some interest;

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:45 am
by Another Knife Collector
Thanks mustratman and upnorth :) Thats quite a collection there upnorth! ::tu:: Were the Holyoke Belt Co knives give aways?

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:05 am
by upnorth
I'm pretty sure they were giveaways, but I remember there's an article in a Knifeworld about them. I will have to dig it up.

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:54 am
by Sauconian
Beautiful group of Schrade Cuts Charlie.

There are two, one in each photo with light colored bone that I don't think I would have recognized as Schrade. Especially the one in the second photo.

Is that bone Schrade's, or did someone else have a hand in producing those two knives ?

Fran

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:33 pm
by upnorth
Fran, I think you are referring to the third last knife in the first pic. The one in the second pic is the same knife. Schrade jigging and color on the old ones is remarkably consistent. This one is an exception. It is essentially the same jig as the one to its right, but I think it was a little thick, and was polished down through the dye when it was hafted! Note the jigging is shallow with only the bottoms of the "pits" remaining, making it look like a different jig. I don't think it was just pocket wear.

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:44 pm
by upnorth
There is something compelling about junior sized Cattle knives. A nice compact package at 3 3/8" long, with plenty of blades. So I would always purchase or trade for them, even if I knew I had one. The result is way too many in my collection. (My name is Charlie, and I am addicted to knives!) :oops:
It seems Schrade took advantage of the tooling, making all kinds of variations, for themselves and for others. Even the 4 blade is not a huge pocketful. Here we see that 4 blade (pretty rare I think), several 3 blades, and some 2 blade variations as well. Notice the Keen, Ulster, and D-E knives that appear related!

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:49 am
by W5RWU
Here my latest love , A sweet little SCHRADE CUT CO. I dont know alot about it ,maybe some of y'all can help.
Both blades are tang stamped: SCHRADE / CUT CO. / WALDEN, N.Y. . The back side of the Long Pull Master reads S2264 3/4 Stg with two more lines of numbers and symbols?
Thanks Randy

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:18 am
by ea42
Charlie, that is a VERY nice grouping ::tu:: ::drool:: I could sit and stare at that peachseed all day.

Randy, that's a nice salesman's sample. It was present in the 1926 catalog, although yours is a somewhat special arrangement. in stock form it came witha spear blade and cell handles, which would have been designated by the numbers 2264 followed by a letter designating the type of cell. In your case, some modifying was done. The "S" prefix represents a special combination or finish, which in your case I think is twofold. First is the 3/4, which means a clip blade was substituted for the standard spear, and second, I don't think that particular cell, a stag look cell "stg" was a readily available option for that knife at the time, possibly it was a new introduction? Really nice piece, looks like it just came off the line ::tu::

Eric

PS- I have no idea what those symbols mean, I've got an old catalog repro from AG Russell that has similar markings written in pen next to many of the knife images ::shrug::

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:11 am
by W5RWU
Thank you Eric , It is as clean as it looks ! Thanks for the run down , I was lucky to get it. I do not have very many cut co. I really like this one!
Randy

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:50 am
by upnorth
That's a nice one Randy! A.G.Russell seems to know what that plastic material is. I think a form of acetate; you might ask him.

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:16 am
by W5RWU
Thanks Charlie
Randy

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:59 am
by thawk
Close To Home

Image

Found it on Ebay, and picked it up at an antique shop 10 miles from home.

Image

The Schrade Cut Co Number was an 8583. It is 3 3/8" closed. I could not find it in a Schrade Walden Catalog, no pattern # on back of tang.

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:36 am
by upnorth
thawk wrote:Close To Home.
Found it on Ebay, and picked it up at an antique shop 10 miles from home.
The Schrade Cut Co Number was an 8583. It is 3 3/8" closed. I could not find it in a Schrade Walden Catalog, no pattern # on back of tang.
Officer, arrest that man!! He stole that knife!! :mrgreen:
Much nicer photos than Ebay Hal! Looks great!

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:08 am
by ea42
Nice one Thawk!!

Charlie and Randy, from what I can find of the "stg" handle material, it appears in the 1934 supplement as celluloid stag handles on a number of knives, and then in the 1936 supplement, it's refered to as fibestos. Don't know what to make of that other than possibly they were making a switch to other materials other than celluloid.

Eric

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:07 am
by upnorth
ea42 wrote:Nice one Thawk!!

Charlie and Randy, from what I can find of the "stg" handle material, it appears in the 1934 supplement as celluloid stag handles on a number of knives, and then in the 1936 supplement, it's refered to as fibestos. Don't know what to make of that other than possibly they were making a switch to other materials other than celluloid.

Eric
Maybe someone will do an analysis, and answer these questions. It would be nice to see the different "stg" handles side by side. I get the feeling there was some experimentation going on back in the 30s, to achieve a good inexpensive material. Hmmmmmmm ::shrug::

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:19 am
by upnorth
Well, I've posted a group of 3 1/8" Equal end knives, and some 3 3/8 ones as well, so I guess the next logical step is the next size up!
These generally exceed 3 5/8" slightly, closer to 3 11/16", but I'm pretty sure they are from the same size handle dies. Nice variations in 2 and 3 blades.
A couple of Stainless Cut Cos, which I think are relatively rare. A flat bolstered knife with a single backspring which makes a nice slim knife, and of course the "Moose"; both also rarely seen.
Most of these have been posted elsewhere, so if this is too much of a repeat, please let me know; I get carried away with the subject!

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:12 am
by jonet143
i don't have many of these beautiful schrades so it's a real treat to ogle y'alls rare examples. keep em commin! ::tu::

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:42 pm
by W5RWU
Thawk Nice catch!! thanks for the info everyone!
::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
Randy

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:32 pm
by upnorth
Not much response, but I've been assured you guys are looking :| , so here come the biggies. These are about 4 1/4" long, and big hefty Jack knives. I haven't seen a 3 blade yet in this size, but I'm hoping one will turn up some day.
Three Schrade Cut Cos, and a Schrade Walden. The right hand one has the arched tang stamp, the old style hand-picked jigging, and hand hammered pins. Pretty old I reckon.

Re: SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:37 pm
by jonet143
wow, those are some bigguns. just wonderful! ::tu::