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Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:21 pm
by Another Knife Collector
I was happy to find this little Empire with perfect pearl recently!

Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:15 am
by upnorth
It happened again!! I welcome back this old thread, and your nice Pearl knife, AKC!!
I love it when someone takes the time to search what's been done, and posts another knife. It is wonderful for future research, if all the Empires are in one thread!
Nice going!!
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:04 pm
by Another Knife Collector
Thanks Upnorth

This site is a great research tool, an impressive amount of info is collected here
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:59 am
by CCBill
I didn't know what to think when I found this one. I thought upnorth owned ALL of them. Sorry about the lousy picture. New camera, new photo program, same old stupid brain.
Empire, 3&3/8" closed. 3 blades,1 file, all un-sharpened. Both handles stamped sterling. Both handles embossed, National Fire Hartford. I'll keep working on this. Hopefully I can get a better picture. I'll also try to get a better one of the MOP page turner with the abalone inlay in the handle.
...CCBill...

Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:34 am
by upnorth
That silver penknife is a beauty CC! I obviously don't have 'em all!
Here's a little crown pen I picked up about two weeks ago;
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:01 am
by upnorth
This knife just knocked my socks off! Never sharpened, I think it's the best Empire (subcontract) I've ever seen!! Not cleaned, almost all of its original finish! Better than I had hoped from Ebay!!
Empire made Diamond Edge marked knives for Shapleigh before WWI, but I haven't pinned this one down yet.
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:19 am
by Owd Wullie
Very nice!!
I sure do like that Jumbo you posted above as well.

Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:30 pm
by Sauconian
Congrats again Charlie !
That has got to be the snag of the year !
Did you sleep with her under your pillow last night ?
This just proves that knives like this may not be at yard sales anymore, but can come our way if we try hard enough.
Fran
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:39 pm
by orvet
That is a purty lil' Empire there Bill!
I like it.
It goes real nice with that page turner.
Did you find them together?
Charlie-
I have to agree with Fran.
Sauconian wrote:That has got to be the snag of the year !
Fran
Congrats to both of you!
Dale
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:46 pm
by Miller Bro's
Charlie,
Very nice knife you found!
Here is an old Empire Knife Co. knife box.
It originally held six pattern #1257 F
M.B.
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:48 pm
by Another Knife Collector
CCBill, thats a nice Empire, silver is one of my favorite knife handles and you dont see nice ornate ones like that too often
Upnorth, I cant ignore the first one you showed recently, that crown is a cool pattern!

And the big one is phenominal, probably one of a kind in that condition! Quite a find.

Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:17 am
by upnorth
You lucky dog, M.B!!
I've been looking for Empire boxes to go with my historical display; so far no luck! That's a nice one!
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:20 am
by upnorth
Sauconian wrote:Congrats again Charlie !
That has got to be the snag of the year !
Did you sleep with her under your pillow last night ?
This just proves that knives like this may not be at yard sales anymore, but can come our way if we try hard enough.
Fran
To set the record straight, I wouldn't have that knife if Fran hadn't alerted me to its poorly listed auction! Thanks Fran!!
(I'd have a whole bunch of money though! sheesh
thanks Fran)
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:55 am
by Miller Bro's
A well worn Empire.
Nice dog-leg pattern, ebony handle.
The owner sure liked this knife, and got a lot of use out of it!
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:51 am
by philco
M.B.,
Don't you wish that old jack could tell you where it's been and what it's done over the years? Bet there are some stories there.
Classy old dog.
Phil
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:26 am
by RobesonsRme.com
MB;
I love that shield! I don't think I've ever seen a bomb shield with such sharp, crisp corners as that.
I see that someone has posted anew to the "Shields" thread, too. If it wasn't you posting this shield, please do so. I'm about to check it out.
I've never seen that particular shield before on any maker's knife.
Charlie Noyes
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:47 am
by orvet
There some old knives that have a certain intangible quality that makes me want to use them and forget all other newer knives. I guess it is something in the design and in the F&F that you just know it is quality and that it will fit in your hand like an extension of your body.
That old Empire is such a knife. I understand why the previous owner used it up.
What a magnificent knife! And the shield is "da Bom!"
Dale
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:16 pm
by Miller Bro's
Thanks Guys!
Phil,
If this one could talk it would have lots and lots to say!
Charlie,
It is a very attractive shield, that is what drew me to it, even though the condition is poor I still have a place for it in my collection. I don`t recall ever seeing a shield exactly like this on a knife by another manufacturer.
Dale,
orvet wrote:What a magnificent knife! And the shield is "da Bom!"
That sums it up nicely!
M.B.
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:39 am
by upnorth
There are a lot of interesting shields that only occur on Empire knives. That's a nice one, M.B.
Here's another, in this group shot of Empire products, along with a couple of other interesting ones.
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:55 am
by Miller Bro's
Charlie,
Nice group of Empire Products
What does the stamp on the scissors look like?
M.B.
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:04 am
by upnorth
I've got two pairs of scissors. The one with the screw/stop is for cutting buttonholes!
M.B. they have an oval stamp, nearly identical on each pair.
Hope you can see them . . . .
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:08 am
by Miller Bro's
Charlie,
Thanks for the closeup
I never knew they made scissors.
M.B.
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:02 pm
by upnorth
MILLER BRO`S wrote:Charlie,
Thanks for the closeup
I never knew they made scissors.
M.B.
Same here. It surprised me when I saw them . . . . .
Had to have them of course

!
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:22 am
by Miller Bro's
Here is a nice old Empire curved regular jack.
Does anyone like the jigged bone handles on this one as much as I do?
M.B.
Re: Empire Knife Company
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:07 pm
by orvet
MILLER BRO`S wrote:Here is a nice old Empire curved regular jack.
Does anyone like the jigged bone handles on this one as much as I do?
M.B.
I like them so much that I have a bunch of jigged bone "junk" knives.
These are knives or parts of knives that that have unique, unusual, & beautiful bone handles. Some have no blades, some have the handle broken off one side, and IIRC there are a couple that only have part of the handles left. The bone is gorgeous and I hope someday to be able to reproduce some of the jigging patterns, at least that what I tell myself.
I think the truth is that I just like the look & feel of the old jigged bone!
Dale