All About Pocket Knives

Nice shot Bruno!!
Since it's new years eve, I'll go around the horn for you and our guests; bottom left, up and around to middle...."WE HAVE"...

#2902, 2903 three blade...#1200 Scout, #1405 Swiss M., #4801, #721 EO, #4602, #4622
#44Y, #913 Ranger, Antique Car (no#), #4602 Long Shield, # S 409F, 2-#85 W's, and a
# 2644 Camper on top odf the Camp kit, # unknown..( I have the identical one in my desk draw in front of me, mint)...

Robert P. CKCo.. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!!!!

Bonfire bob wrote: Robert P. CKCo.. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!!!!

Happy New Year to you and yours Bob.

Did Colonial create the Anvil brand or were they in existence before and when did they start either way?

Hello buck16.....
The Andvil brand was introduced in the late 70's and Colonial made three models.
The baby or smallest one was a three blade, 2 and 3/4" closed and was cat. # 200.
The medium three blade was 3 and 1/2" closed, model # 210. And the large stockman three
blade was 3 7/8" closed and was catalogue # 220....
The Andvil brand was a step up from the Ranger line that was produced many years
earlier. The Andvil blades were all polished 440A Stainless steel blades while all Ranger blades were synthetic wheel ground 1075 High Carbon steel..
Robert P. CKCo..(glad I could help)...

I thought I might share a drawing of an exploded version of a large Colonial three blade stockman. I made this over 30 years ago and I think folks will enjoy seeing the parts that are involved with assembling a pocket knife....

In addition to these parts there are 23 separate assemble and finishing opperations!! That's what it takes to be Cutler!!
Robert P.....CKCo..

Thanks very much for the quick reply to my question.

Bonfire bob wrote:FYI, AAPK folks....
The very nice woman named peppiesmama on e-bay is really named Nancy...
Her husband was a knife collector for many years. He has recently passed away
and she's trying to sell some of his old knives for medical reasons.....
Here is your chance folks!!
If you come across these RAP Colonial stag or Rosewood knives, BUY THEM!!!
They will never be made again and are considered very valuable!!!!
Robert P. CKCo..

Thank You for the tip.
I bought the last 4 she had. They haven't arrived yet but I can't wait to get them.
How many of the Stag handle ones were made?

Nice score Jack!!!
Between the stag and the Rosewood, maybe a 1,000 of each!
Here's one of the original ads...
Robert P.

Congrats Jack!!! Nice score - boxes, COA's and all!

Do you mean a thousand of the Rosewood AND a thousand stag, Bobby?
Cool flyer too!

... Joe

Yes Joe...about a thousand of each......the smart collector's know what they have and are holding onto them like gold!!
I would!! Texasjack has made a sensible investment...the more my story and book get out there, the more valuable my collection and my history becomes.....
Here is another little ad pertaining to RAP 5 Star Series knives...

Joe, I will take some pics showing your incredible X-mas gifts ASAP....thanks a bunch my Southern pal...

I just thought I would share with you folks some of my other hobby work....
I make plastic and cast steel model kits of trucks, cars, tanks, military equipment but my most incredible work of art is my 1925 German locomotive...this baby took me a month to make and the pics don't do the model any justice, believe me!!
ENJOY!! Bobby P.

Side view...

Great info on the 5 Star Series. I won't stop lookin til I have one of each!
And you're very welcome for the holiday gifts!

What can ya tell us about this yeller trapper? That's if ya don't mind.
It's in line and will be re-handled asap.

... Joe

Joe Dirt wrote:Congrats Jack!!! Nice score - boxes, COA's and all!

Do you mean a thousand of the Rosewood AND a thousand stag, Bobby?
Cool flyer too!

... Joe

Thanks Joe, The seller had one of each in stag with boxes and coa and lucky for me one without a box that I may use.

Yes Joe, 1,000 Rosewood and 1,000 India Stag, approximately....I am not sure of the exact sales amount, to be perfectly honest.
The yellow Trapper is NOT Colonial made! Hollow ground stainless blades? No pin on rivet? and if you look close enough, it's a solid NS pin assembly, that Colonial Hadn't made in 30 years back then!! We bought these directly from Camillus Cutlery. Not uncomon back then.
The cost of "tooling up" for a knife back then meant several hub and die tools for each part. For the Trapper, it would have meant four bolster tools, one spring tool, two blade tools, and a a liner tool.(one liner tool because with this knife they made it reversable).
At 10-30 grand per tool, you can appreciate the investment involved..

These Trappers are made from the exact same Camillus parts we bought at Heritage and used for our 5,000 pc. Stag Trapper order for Smith and Wesson.! Pay attention here guys..The parts came in with the bolster's spot welded already to the liner's, with pre-drilled assembly holes; even counter sunk for peening and finishing (bolster hefting)...

I say pay attention (Joe) because you said you were going to re-handle the knife!!
Chop it apart at the bolster with a thin, heavy blade of some kind and you'll see what I'm talking about.. I will send you the original Camillus assembly pins and since I have NS and stainless, I'll send you both..This makes things a bunch easier cause after you size and rivet on your handle pins, you put it all together with the pins I send you and just squash it good in a vise. Your going to have to hit the kick and tangs with a hammer to straighten and slack the knife to make your blades drop smooth... you should still have plenty of pin-on rivets but I'll put a bunch in your pin package; I'll send it Monday...
I will send you some brass center Camillus rivets also but I suggest you use the brass Colonial nails you should still have...what the heck, I'll send you some more and even NS center nails too!! After that wounderful Christmas gift, it's the least I can do to re-assemble that poor, broken back Yellow Trapper!!
Try and save the shield buddy; inlay it into your new handle!! Come on Royal Pines Cutlery!! We are all counting on you!!

Any further questions about the Trapper please ask!!
Joe, do me one favor.....there's a # on the back of the pocket blade?? Please tell me what # it says because that could very well be the Colonial stock # that I have no record of and don't remember..It looks like # 3, maybe a two????what is it Joe..
Thanks pal, now that everyone knows how to make a Camillus Trapper, I'll take a break!
Robert Paolantonio, Colonial, RAP., and Heritage....

Here's a 1995 Catalogue pic of the Old Cutler lina and as you can see, the Trapper is missing!! We couldn't afford to buy them anymore..is it all making sence now???

Thanks for that pile of info on the trapper, Bobby! Sure is good to
have referance to all that.

Here is a pic of the No. on the back of the knife.

I have one of your Smith & Wesson Heritage trappers and
they have a few little differences between them.
(Yours is a MUCH better quality knife - not to
mention the stag! Not just blowing smoke either.)

The most notable difference I can think of is the pull on the spey blade
is on the pile side of the knife - both pulls on the S&W are facing
the mark side of the knife.

I will do a picture comparison on the two trappers to show
the the other differences.

BTW About how many of the "Camillus made" Old Cutlers were
made?

... Joe

Thanks Joe; your bag of goodies and rivets were packed after diner tonight, and will go out Monday as promised...The Camillus Old Cutler Trappers were only around for a few years, since we couldn't afford them any more and we certianly were not in any shape at that point to "tool up" so to speak to make them ourselve's..
Thanks for the stock # I guess it was; I'll put it in my notes and further research it....

My kindness of rivets is not just for Joe folks!! Joe K., President of Royal Pines Cutlery shows incredible interest and ability for cutler atributes and anyone else out there that may need some rivets of any kind to repair or fix an old knife, I can help you...
Brass pin-on, nails, NS, brass, more than I know what to do with.....please feel free to ask and show a pic of what you need and I will be more than happy to accommodate you....

There will never be a charge for rivet's sent; just buy me a beer when I see you!!!
Bobby P. CKCo...
I thought I would show everyone what is possible with a pile of parts and some knife knowledge....(and lots of time and patience)....

Inside file work...

And back file work....

Oh what the heck, here's the Barlow....

Filework and Engraving are NOT my bag. That said those are pretty!

Just plain Dave..I'm glad you approve sir, not your bag you say..

Would you like the details of this baby, or am boring you!! haha..
What is your bag?? Steel or brass details, values, comparing to Case Knives are you???

We all here are interested in all of our members likes and dis-likes....
Rob.P...
How about these....Medieval stuff???

Those are pretty nice as well.

I just don't care for nor wish to own a "Fancy" knife. To me those fileworked springs etc. look like a wonderful place for pocket lint and such to gather. And I carry knives. Don't have one to just look at.

I am FAR more interested in the old Colonial working knives!

I assume this is a Colonial
other than the blade loss on the main, it is in good shape, wish it was the model 530 rather than 533
don't like this color and it looks like rubber

That's right mickey and somebody carried and used this knife for years!!!
Maybe a man who cut leather all the time and that's why the master blade needed to be constantly sharpened!!
Even the sheep foot and spey blades are worn!!
Nice job pal...
YUP! # 533 large three blade "Old Cutler" stockman..